Vaping at a higher wattage/voltage?

[Traijan]

So, I'm trying to figure out how some folks love to vape up at something like 20+ watts, or to the highest voltage that their APV will allow them to vape at.

I've tried to vape on my MVP2 up at 5 volts or 11 watts with my nautilus using all kinds of liquids but anything higher than 9.5 watts and their is a funky taste to the vape.

Is it just a matter of what liquid the people are using, or am I just not seeing something obvious?

Thanks

 

[edyle]

So, I'm trying to figure out how some folks love to vape up at something like 20+ watts, or to the highest voltage that their APV will allow them to vape at.

I've tried to vape on my MVP2 up at 5 volts or 11 watts with my Nautilus using all kinds of liquids but anything higher than 9.5 watts and their is a funky taste to the vape.

Is it just a matter of what liquid the people are using, or am I just not seeing something obvious?

Thanks

on the nautilus coil heads, yes, it's going to depend on the liquids you use.

on a rebuildable, where people can put thick wire in there, it takes more power to get them hot enough.
putting dual coils doubles the power requirements.

 

[Froth]

You're being restricted by the Aspire coil heads, they only allow so much air flow and wicking to occur which only allows so much power to be used before burning occurs.

I'm strictly a mechanical user but my daily vape is generally set up for 100 watts or more. Juices don't burn, it's a massive flavor explosion with a LOT of vapor because my wicking can keep up and my airflow is very large, I only use RDA's. You need a ton of air flow and wire surface area to push a lot of power, then you also need wicking that can keep up with delivering a ton of juice to the coils, it can be done and is done by a large number of people.

 

[Ryedan]

You're being restricted by the Aspire coil heads, they only allow so much air flow and wicking to occur which only allows so much power to be used before burning occurs.

I'm strictly a mechanical user but my daily vape is generally set up for 100 watts or more. Juices don't burn, it's a massive flavor explosion with a LOT of vapor because my wicking can keep up and my airflow is very large, I only use RDA's. You need a ton of air flow and wire surface area to push a lot of power, then you also need wicking that can keep up with delivering a ton of juice to the coils, it can be done and is done by a large number of people.

This ^^^. Airflow, wire surface area, wicking and atty design all need to be appropriate for the power you put in the atty. Get it right and you can have a cool vape at 100+ watts.

 

[Traijan]

Okay thanks. I guess next time I see it come up where people are talking about clearomizers such as the aerotank mega or the nautilus I'll have to remember to ask them what there actually using as their atomizer.

 

[edyle]

Okay thanks. I guess next time I see it come up where people are talking about clearomizers such as the aerotank mega or the nautilus I'll have to remember to ask them what there actually using as their atomizer.

dual coils take more power ;

then there's the new aspire bvc coils; I saw a review where the guy said he was vaping that up to 22 watts.

before I started rebuilding and rewicking my protank coils I'd hardly go above 5 watts.

with rewicking I could often go up to 7 and 8 watts.

right now I've vaping on a dripper on my vamo at 9 watts with 0.1mm x 0.3 mm ribbon wire (that's probably equivalent to 30 or 32 gauge regular wire, I think.) it's a 3 ohm coil

 

[Traijan]

I use the BVC coils and can't take them over 9.5w so must be the difference between what they and I are vaping then.

 

[The Torch]

Nautilus atty's are small. With a larger chimney and equivalent ohms, you can go higher in power (more airflow, more wick, more room for the vapor to expand, better juice flow, etc.)

I've tried a DNA 30 with a very similar build as what I have on my Provari and I liked it better at ~23 watts. Next time I can try one, I'll definitely ask if I can put my tank on it, so I have a real comparison point, but I mostly vape my 'Vari at 15-16 watts, just about max power and still would like more. Alternately, I have tries setups with less ohms and about 12.5W that had more flavor than my Provari at equivalent wattage. RBA's and coil build makes a huge difference from the start.

 

[Pedrobear]

More power needs more airflow. Without it the wicks will simply burn. You're limited in the BVC cause of the airflow. Also need more power to heat different coil setups... IE.. A dual 3/32 7/8 wrap 26g takes more muscle to produce then a 1/16th 8 wrap parallel build.

Right now I'm vamping my rDNA at 30w (max)on a plume viel and it's divine. Already looking for something I can use at home only with more power.

 

[supermarket]

I use the BVC coils and can't take them over 9.5w so must be the difference between what they and I are vaping then.

You don't need anything close to 20watts, let alone 100watts, unless you are building your own via RDAs (Rebuilable Dripping Atomizers) or RBAs (Rebuilable Atomizers)


Like others said, when you build your own, sometimes it is necessary to go as high as even 100+watts, depending on what you are going for.

This is why a lot of people use mechanical mods.....because with mechanical mods, there is no regulation. It will naturally fire where its supposed to , based on the ohms you build your coil to.

For me, I like to vape on a mechanical at around .5 ohms..... so I need more watts than something like the MVP2 can provide. The lower the ohms you go, the higher the watts you need.

Now, if you try using higher voltage/higher watts, and you don't need them.....you are going to get a burnt/nasty taste.

 

[R1Barlow]

When I started vaping, I was told that I should use 2 volts higher than the coil ohm. So at 1.8 ohm coil, I would use 3.8 volts. Is this no longer true?

 

[The Ocelot]

It comes down to taste as well. Just because someone else vapes at XXX doesn't mean you have to. The same is true for charts and calculations - they are just places to start, then you adjust your power level for what tastes good to you.

I've gat a 1.5Ω coil in one of my tanks. I vape my favorite juice in it roughly between 3.8v and 4.1v depending on my mood. At higher temperatures it tastes more like menthol, but in the lower range a sweet mint flavor come out.

 

[DaveP]

Yep, it's the air flow that evens out the temps and creates thick vapor. Achieving a balance is what it's all about.

High performance atomizers are way too much like high performance cars. If you can afford the juice to keep them running, more power to you! A 50ml bottle used to last me a long time. Just buying a Kayfun doubled my juice consumption. Two 50ml bottles are now gone in a couple of weeks or less.

I'm not sure I could deal with a 100W vape. How much juice does it eat in a day?

 

[dwarfcat]

I use to say the same thing until I built a .9 coil dual coil in my dripper and was only able to run it at 12ish watts max on my provari. I purchased an ipv2 and leave it at 25w generally but have braved it up to 50 numerous times and had a good vape. I dont like too warm
of a vape but 25-30 is money for me

 

[edyle]

When I started vaping, I was told that I should use 2 volts higher than the coil ohm. So at 1.8 ohm coil, I would use 3.8 volts. Is this no longer true?

It's a simple rule of thumb for the commercial coils; those are typically 32 or 30 gauge kanthal.
I guess it might not be so accurate nowadays with alot of commercial coils comming as dual coils; dual coils take more power.

 

[DaveP]

When I started vaping, I was told that I should use 2 volts higher than the coil ohm. So at 1.8 ohm coil, I would use 3.8 volts. Is this no longer true?

That's still a rule of thumb if you aren't after voluminous clouds of vapor. I vape a 1.8 ohm coil at 3.7 with transitions up to 4.5 if I'm wanting more vapor. Most of the time I just want something that reminds me of the ultra lights I used to smoke.

The rest of the time I'm trying to stay at 3.7v just to make my bottle of juice last longer. Provari and Kayfun at 3.7v is just about right for reproducing the Doral ultra light exhale.

 

[KurrptSenate]

high wattage vapes are very satisfying. that being said, you can't take a regular, replaceable head setup and expect it to work at higher wattages.

getting a good vape at high wattage is all about sufficient air flow and keeping your wick at the coil saturated. If you cannot do this reliably, your vape will suffer

if I'm coiling for 50+ watts, the specific build in my atty reflect this. I'll use a lower gauge wire. I'll also increase the air flow so the vape isn't extremely hot. obviously these two terms are subjective to the individual.

 

[GreekLion]

You're being restricted by the Aspire coil heads, they only allow so much air flow and wicking to occur which only allows so much power to be used before burning occurs.

I'm strictly a mechanical user but my daily vape is generally set up for 100 watts or more. Juices don't burn, it's a massive flavor explosion with a LOT of vapor because my wicking can keep up and my airflow is very large, I only use RDA's. You need a ton of air flow and wire surface area to push a lot of power, then you also need wicking that can keep up with delivering a ton of juice to the coils, it can be done and is done by a large number of people.

What setup is this?