Vaping for a while, went back to smoking, and back again..hope I'm here to stay this time.

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Hey guys,
I watched alot of documentaries on vaping and stuff, and decided I would push myself to make the switch again. I started vaping back 8 months ago, but had some issues after a few months, working in a shop and started smoking tobacco again. Then I had some issues with my vaporizer I bought, gurgling and flooding, leaking etc.... I thought I needed a new one. I went to my vape shop a few days ago, and the guy helped me remove a weird o ring that was in my tank, probably messing up my seal with the coil. Then it was like so amazing the hits I was taking on the vape, even though it was an old one.
I'm really motivated, and so far I have only had like 2 cigarettes in the last 2 days, and that is coming from about 10+ cigarettes a day ! So I'm proud of myself so far, and working on just vaping only. The only thing is, I'm using so much liquid at 32 W... I had half a bottle of 3 mg and I'm almost done, after 2 days, I vape almost all the time too. Is it normal?
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protocy
Welcome and glad you joined. 3 mg is a little low, if you have to vape all day. Could try 6 mg and see if you can cut down on the amount of time you vape. Vaping frequently is not too unusual when starting out.
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It took me 40 years to get as addicted as I was. I knew I would not cut down or go to zero overnight.

After 4 years I am at 3-6mg. I'll not likely ever go to zero.
It would be like having a decaf for my mornin' coffee...
might as well just drink hot water.

Just like my morning coffee I enjoy what some nic offers me.
Calming, relaxing, helps focus etc. I will not deprive myself of that especially when it's about as harmless as my mornin' cup of java.
I've seen folks cut nic back fast then quit vaping.
They've started smoking again.
For me vaping nic is a long term solution to a long term problem I once had but.....each to their own...whatever works for you. Cheers.

This is exactly how I feel -- we've just made a major change in our habits moving from analog cigarettes. Why make it harder by taking out the nicotine as well. Nicotine is basically harmless and my body is used to it. I have been smoke-free for almost a year, and have continue to use 18-24% nicotine level in my vapor. I may decrease, but that is not my goal. My goal is to stay off cigarettes, basta.
 

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Welcome aboard @protocy!

Everyone handles nicotine differently. Especially for what your cigarette consumption used to be, you might not need as MUCH to start with, but if you're constantly hitting your vape, you either a) need something in your hands constantly (like I do), b) are bored, or c) need a bit more nic in your juice to feel "satisfied". Is any of your 12mg juice compatible with some of the 3mg? You could always mix something like 1 part 12mg to 2 parts 3mg to get a 6mg juice. That might be the "lift" you need.

Do whatever works for you. Just glad you're here!
 

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Cool links, and thanks for the ideas and tips!

So it's only been 3 days since i've been vaping full-time basically, just wanted to share that. So far, the first 2 days I had 1-2 smokes, and then I ran out of the pack. Today was officially the first day that I didn't have a smoke first thing in the morning, and went to the vape instead. I've been using it at breaks at school with my friends, and people think it's cool that I haven't been smoking so far.

Early new years resolution for me to quit smoking :) Vape is an amazing invention, and I'm so happy I found it, and it seems to help me alot to be healthier.

Cheers everyone!:rickroll:
 

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I'm just wondering, lately there is kind of a heavier feel to the vaping, and taste. It's only been 3 days since I had a new coil, but I've been vaping alot. Does it sound like I need a new coil?

Before I would just put a new coil after a while (maybe in 2 weeks)...and I remembered one time I took a pull and it was like WAY harsh, like burnt, so I knew I needed a new coil. Now it's like consistently slightly heavy/harsh, compared to 2 days ago when it was really smooth.

What do you guys think?

Edit: Just filled up the tank, and it seems smoother when there is lots of liquid in it, compared to only like 25% full...is it normal?

Edit 2: Actually, after a few minutes it's back to being slightly harsher/harder...

I have a kangertech nano, the liquid I am using is dr.fog zeus, which says 75% VG, 3 mg nic
 
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I'm just wondering, lately there is kind of a heavier feel to the vaping, and taste. It's only been 3 days since I had a new coil, but I've been vaping alot. Does it sound like I need a new coil?

Before I would just put a new coil after a while (maybe in 2 weeks)...and I remembered one time I took a pull and it was like WAY harsh, like burnt, so I knew I needed a new coil. Now it's like consistently slightly heavy/harsh, compared to 2 days ago when it was really smooth.

What do you guys think?

Edit: Just filled up the tank, and it seems smoother when there is lots of liquid in it, compared to only like 25% full...is it normal?

Edit 2: Actually, after a few minutes it's back to being slightly harsher/harder...

I have a kangertech nano, the liquid I am using is dr.fog zeus, which says 75% VG, 3 mg nic
Yep it's normal for your vape to get harsher when it's time to change the coil. I get three or four days on a stock coil with NETs or flavored ejuice, a week or so on unflavored. And yes when it tastes harsher after a few days, I pour out the remaining old juice, wipe out the atomizer gently with a paper towel and then it's smoother when refilled. The reason? As you vape you get some backflow of the heated liquid which makes it taste harsher as it gets empty. A refill puts in fresh juice that hasn't been heated so it's smoother.
 

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Yep it's normal for your vape to get harsher when it's time to change the coil. I get three or four days on a stock coil with NETs or flavored ejuice, a week or so on unflavored. And yes when it tastes harsher after a few days, I pour out the remaining old juice, wipe out the atomizer gently with a paper towel and then it's smoother when refilled. The reason? As you vape you get some backflow of the heated liquid which makes it taste harsher as it gets empty. A refill puts in fresh juice that hasn't been heated so it's smoother.

Hmm ok, I might try that soon. I can't wipe the inside of the coil with the cotton, so I will just wipe around it right? Since I have been using it alot, I will probably switch the coil to a new one soon, maybe tomorrow or something too. If your using a vape all the time, is it normal to use a coil every 5 days ?

Edit: So far, in the last 5 days, I have used about 75 % of a 30ml bottle of juice. So I think that's alot. About 20 $ in the last 5 days, plus 5$ for a coil, so 25$. I would have spent about 30$ for smoking in the same time. So not that much difference I guess. I'm ok with spending alot since it is better for my health, but ideally I would like to also save money by vaping. My friend told me I will eventually vape less, and probably I am just doing it alot to start.
 
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Hmm ok, I might try that soon. I can't wipe the inside of the coil with the cotton, so I will just wipe around it right? Since I have been using it alot, I will probably switch the coil to a new one soon, maybe tomorrow or something too. If your using a vape all the time, is it normal to use a coil every 5 days ?
I use nautilus coils they have a screen over the cotton and I'm just cleaning out the barrel. Coil life is subjective and varies with the individual And the juice used, some swear they get weeks or even a month. My theory on that is individuals taste senses are all over the place I swear I believe some could vape a burned black coil and wick, maybe even a turd lol, and declare it fine. :lol:Use your own senses, if it's harsh to you and a new coil fixes it, that's how long a coil lasts you :)
 

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For me, it was about cigarette avoidance, nicotine replacement and then dropping and just the physical habit. Nothing more.

I realized gratitude almost immediately which was the end of the first day. My nic content is very low and I only vape about 3-4ml a day. The physical habit I use to tell me that I need to sit and relax. That is a healthy habit. Most of my vaping is in the evening and that is okay.

Be grateful, cigarettes are disgusting in so many ways. Stick with the plan.
 
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So far, in the last 5 days, I have used about 75 % of a 30ml bottle of juice. So I think that's alot. About 20 $ in the last 5 days, plus 5$ for a coil, so 25$. I would have spent about 30$ for smoking in the same time. So not that much difference I guess. I'm ok with spending alot since it is better for my health, but ideally I would like to also save money by vaping. My friend told me I will eventually vape less, and probably I am just doing it alot to start.

That's around 4-5 ml a day, which isn't excessive at all. You may end up vaping less, maybe at a higher nic level, or you could end up consuming more. Also, if you are sub-ohming at a high wattage, it uses up a lot more juice than vaping at a lower wattage / higher ohm, so it's sort of difficult to say. (I use 1.6 coils and vape at between 10-15 watts, for example.)

Also, some people (like me!) need the physical action of smoking/vaping more than the nicotine, eventually. I quit smoking SO MANY TIMES, getting totally clean from the physically addictive elements, but was always drawn back -- less for the chemicals than for the muscle memory of picking up and puffing. So I vape a lot but at low nic, sometimes even zero, because I want the comfort of the action itself. Obviously this means I go through more juice than someone who just needs a nic bracer now and then.

I have disagreements with your starter rig. I wouldn't start someone new (or newish) with a sub-ohm set up. I would put an eLeaf iStick or Pico in your hand with a Nautilus mini tank on it. Really easy to transition from smoking to vaping with this. Super reliable, easy to deal with, and not expensive. If you were my friend and I wanted to help you quit smoking, I'd give you this from my own stash, and watch you happily stop smoking (probably) without a lot of complications / overpowered stuff getting in the way.

At any rate that's probably a matter of opinion. In terms of savings, eventually, you might decide to start trying out rebuildable tanks and make your own coils. At that point, coil cost goes down to negligible. But give yourself a chance to get comfortable in vaping vs smoking mode before getting into something that might prove frustrating at first. Same with e liquids. You can make your own and save tons, but negotiating the transition between smoking and vaping and trying to figure out the basics of new skills can prove frustrating enough to go back to smoking. So Step One is always just get a set-up that works well for you. It needs to be easy and comfortable to pick up the vape instead of the cig.

Step Two is read up, hang on the forums, watch vids, pay attention to what people are talking about. It will all be gobbeldygook and even sort of scary in the beginning, like omg, I will never be able to do (or even understand!) X. And TRUE some things you will likely never, ever do! Some things will likely remain Advanced Gobbeldygook! And that's totally normal! People tend to eventually explore the stuff they are most interested in, and you will find that out in a natural way as you go along. Job 1 is just Not Smoking. Any way you do it that is Not Smoking, is the best way! But step two will help you find the options for personal vaping, the vendors, the deals, the trends, the tried-and-trues.

Step Three (optional!) is begin to try a thing or two that aren't vaping 101 that particularly interest you. You ask questions, you start experimenting. Because you are already totally comfortable NOT SMOKING, you are good with what you have now, it's absolutely doing the job, but you are curious and/or getting a little restless with your own status quo, or want to get more frugal. That's great! That's fun! That's a hobby, for many of us. But it's not necessary to do in order to quit smoking and start vaping. Congratulations on your progress so far! Don't worry about costs right now; soon you will be able to evaluate better, but at the moment, only spending as much as you did on the killing stuff is a total win!
 
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