Vaping 'safely' at 1.2ohm? Veteran advice wanted

[PSiKoTiC]

This is my first post on these forums; I have been watching the e-cig foras for awhile and come up with a couple questions and/or problems regarding vape 'safety'.

I've been vaping on and off for about 3 years now; various ecigs.. started with a 510.. then ego-T, then a Zmax with a tank mod. I now am using a VV battery (aspire CF VV 3.3v-4.8v) and a kanger aero tank2 using dual coil atomizers of varying ohm ratings.

First off looking around the web; I've come to the conclusion that Ecigs; as far as carcinogen content and other harmful chemicals are better (less) with vaping, but still present, up to almost the same as an analog cigarette based on various 'reports' and documentary style tv clips based on 'voltage' (which should be amperage but w/e) where was the reports on a standard atty (I'm assuming 1.5 1.8ohm the report neglected to mention specifics) at 4.8v the harmful levels of the 'tested' vapes neared analog levels; where as at 'safe' (arbitrary/subjective term) had about 1/100th the harmful chemicals vaped.
Where as I've read alot about sub ohm vaping.. box mods etc. I'm more concerned about making a semi educated choice based on actual fact vs conjecture regarding what is 'safe', second hand vape with children etc. When I speak of safe I reference charts like the link posted here

dub dub dub evcigarettes.com/safe-vaping-power-voltage-resistance-ohm-chart/

according to said chart.. assuming their not pulling random numbers outta their rear; 1.2ohm vaping max voltage is 3.00 volts. which as I mentioned previously my VV battery doesn't even drop below 3.3v, trolling forums I assume that most just go with 'nothing is safe' and it can't be as bad an analog, and most seem to be hesitant to bring up the rational discussion about what is 'safer' for vaping. Are there any validity to these claims?

Where I was previously vaping with a 1.8ohm dual coil atomizer at around 3.8volts. I see people trying to push sub-ohm vaping with like 4-5 volts to produce ridiculous vapor where I would question if that would be combusting any of the eliquid at those coil temps especially with repeated hauls. (not to mention good way to blow up a battery if you don't know what your doing)

Last question is box mods/Ehookahs(??) I generally smoke on a bad day; a pack and a half of analogs. the vapor production from a 510 is laughable to me at best, and I've been using Vaping as a way to augment, reduce the amount of bad junk I'm inhaling into my lungs.. I find after about 2 weeks of 'heavy' vaping having an analog is nauseating. However I need something that can produce a large amount of vapor to augment my otherwise ridiculous (and ultimately lethal) smoking habit. I've seen people getting rediculous amounts of vapor from box mods, aswell as I would assume some e-hookah or something would do the same deal. What are your thoughts on those? some larger unit that produces larger amounts of vapor (the ehookah idea was novel as there are 3 others vapers in the house) if so are there any you can recommend?

Thanks for your time and apoliges for the long read.

 

[Foggyvap3]

Yes you can run 1.8 I run 0.4 ohm

 

[InTheShade]

Hi PSiKoTiC and welcome to the forum.

First off looking around the web; I've come to the conclusion that Ecigs; as far as carcinogen content and other harmful chemicals are better (less) with vaping, but still present, up to almost the same as an analog cigarette based on various 'reports' and documentary style tv clips based on 'voltage' (which should be amperage but w/e) where was the reports on a standard atty (I'm assuming 1.5 1.8ohm the report neglected to mention specifics) at 4.8v the harmful levels of the 'tested' vapes neared analog levels; where as at 'safe' (arbitrary/subjective term) had about 1/100th the harmful chemicals vaped.

I came to a different conclusion than you. One was certainly not that e-cigs in any way approach the levels of harmful chemicals as cigarettes.

Until these studies explain the exact methodology used, how do we know they weren't just vaping the e-cigs dry for example?

The reality is that a lot of e-cig news you see in the mainstream media is the same studies rehashed and reinterpreted to fit the needs of the organization and the agenda of the story they are presenting.

There is another study that has just been crowd funded that will address this issue more thoroughly. More information can be found E-cig Research I would highly recommend having a look around Dr. Farsalinos' website.

Where as I've read alot about sub ohm vaping.. box mods etc. I'm more concerned about making a semi educated choice based on actual fact vs conjecture regarding what is 'safe', second hand vape with children etc. When I speak of safe I reference charts like the link posted here .

The "safe" you are describing is just as arbitrary as any other definition. Those charts were produced mainly to prevent people burning out their cotton derived batting in cartomizers or preventing a burnt taste from their e-cig.

Of course, feel free to use any limit you like, but there is not one fact included in that chart. I would not base my interpretation of what is considered safe on that chart or any other currently available voltage or wattage chart.

I'm not trying to knock your point of view, I too am very concerned with what I am inhaling into my lungs. I question everything about vaping and the materials, systems and methods we and the manufacturers are using to make and use the products.

And you're in the right place too. Of course always consider the source, but there are many hundreds of posts about e-cigs and health and safety right here on ECF - so much so, there is a dedicated forum to this subject on the main page.

So welcome again, hope you stick around with us.