Vaping tobacco flavors is terrible

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EddieAdams

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That bottle looks entirely too small. That is usually what I say to myself whenever I receive a BWB order always wishing I would have ordered more. :vapor:
I'm all DIY now. Occasionally order a bottle of Casa or Bobas. Took me a year but, have really refined my recipes. Lots of mistakes. Easily thrown away 1000ml....ha
 

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Thanks everyone, I guess I will have to figure this out because I just no I am going to end up cracking if I dont get some kind realistic pipe experience. Perhaps now is when I should buy that silver carvel mod since I may have to go into mods anyways for that heat. I never had these feelings until last week when my friend started packing his pipe with a cherry tobacco mix which smelled amazing and watching him pack it and everything was something I missed.

Please do not crack :) I guarantee you that a realistic pipe experience can be had vaping. For quality juices see this thread, on the first page there is a ranked list of vendors and then plenty of great discussion to steer you to what you need: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ussion/519685-natural-tobaccos-part-deux.html

As for the heat of the vape, that entirely depends on your setup. It is not really the mod that makes the difference here as long as it pushes enough power, what really makes the difference is knowing how to build a rebuildable atomizer to suit your own preference. There is a bit of a learning curve there but it is definitely worth it, especially if you want to get into quality tobacco vapes.
 

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It's definitely hard finding a good tobacco flavor. Most i have tried have a strong perfume taste and go bitter very quickly. The great tobaccos are NET's from certain companies. Some do it right, some do it wrong. If you go down that path it gets very tedious because a lot of NET's obliterate wicks and coils. A coil that lasts you a month with other e-liquids might only last you a day with a NET. The best balance i have found is ITCVapes because they have a low price, the tobacco flavors are acceptable and they are gentle on coils.

I am really into tobacco flavors as an ex-smoker. I don't get much enjoyment out of fruity, candy and desert vapes. It's not like i was smoking fruity cigarettes back then. I am always on the lookout for those good balance tobacco flavors. Another recommendation is getting a good battery mod and something like a BVC coil that you can crank up the watts on. Possibly a rebuildable setup if you are experienced.
 

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Yeah,I don't get the fruit thing. I like them for a taste but, haven't found any that I could go through a day with. A cup of coffee and blueberry Limoncello(spelling?) isn't so complimentary to one another...

But a cup of coffee with blueberry muffin, cinnamon roll or banana nutbread juice is absolutely phenomenal!!
 

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Honestly I just cant vape tobacco flavors, its nothing like the real thing. I was a big pipe tobacco user a few years ago and I just couldnt bear any kind of tobacco flavor that is vaped because you dont get that hot burning feeling like you would smoking real cigarettes or pipes etc. Fruit flavors and candys etc is fine because theyre not eaten hot in the real world anyway but tobacco is always used hot and vaping makes it feel like a cold inhale which is just disgusting. Its a shame because I threw out a bunch of halo tobacco flavors because the not hot vaping experience with it just taste like lukewarm tobacco that isnt real smoke. That is part of the reason I transferred to mt baker vapor since they have a big assorment or fruits etc which are find for a lukewarm vape but I always see myself sometimes just cant resist not to buy a cigar once in awhile etc just because I miss the real tobacco taste. Is there any possible way to make it like the same as smoking real tobacco?

The problem isn't so much the tobacco flavors, as the Halo ejuice. :D I haven't found a single one of theirs that tastes anything like what it's meant to be, other than the peppermint, and somewhat, the belgian cocoa, though both of those are so unsweet it's horrible -- but I did not discern the slightest thing "tobaccoish" in their supposedly tobacco flavors. They're just awful.

But, you're right to some extent; the flavor of vaping tobacco is nothing like SMOKING tobacco, for a very simple reason: NOTHING IS ON FIRE. Anything burning is bitter, and vaping isn't, at least nothing like as bitter as any smoke. However I was able to quit smoking by using MyFreedomSmokes' "Virginia" because the FLAVOR is very similar to the flavor of Virginia Slims cigarettes -- no, it's not bitter, because it's not on fire, but still remarkably similar.

But, for me it's a moot point anyway, because at this point, I am OVER enjoying the taste of tobacco. Bleah. Gimme Blueberry Muffin flavor any day of the week over the nasty taste of stinkweed.

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I can't do a straight tobacco flavor. I tried quite a few when I started vaping and most of them were pretty gross. Even an RY4 turned my stomach. Then I had it explained to me is a "tobacco" flavor is a raw tobacco flavor, not a burned tobacco flavor so you'll almost never get the same feeling/taste as a tobacco smoke. The company I buy my juice from makes a peach tobacco blend, a banana tobacco blend and an amazing coumarin pipe tobacco blend....they have the throat hit of a tobacco flavor without the funky tobacco taste.
 
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Interesting. Very similar situation here.
What is the best NET concentrate you've tried? Thanks in advance.
Do you mean tobacco flavoring? I haven't started messing with making any NET yet. Almost every tobacco flavoring I've tried needs some "touching up" for me. The few standalones that come to mind might be hangsen ry1 , flavour art Virginia, hangsen Tab. Those are just fine at whatever percentage suits your pg/vg mix without adding this or that.
 

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Do you mean tobacco flavoring? I haven't started messing with making any NET yet. Almost every tobacco flavoring I've tried needs some "touching up" for me. The few standalones that come to mind might be hangsen ry1 , flavour art Virginia, hangsen Tab. Those are just fine at whatever percentage suits your pg/vg mix without adding this or that.

i do hangsen RY4 @ 10% in my 100% VG 36mg nic base and it is smooth and somehow is more satisfying than most premixed tobacco juice you can buy. from what i understand the RY1 is strait tobacco and RY4 is 4th generation. each generation was "touched up" to be a little more sweet and complex. from what i`ve read hangsen tobacco flavorings are extracted from natural tobaccos. does this make it a "NET"?
 

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i do hangsen RY4 @ 10% in my 100% VG 36mg nic base and it is smooth and somehow is more satisfying than most premixed tobacco juice you can buy. from what i understand the RY1 is strait tobacco and RY4 is 4th generation. each generation was "touched up" to be a little more sweet and complex. from what i`ve read hangsen tobacco flavorings are extracted from natural tobaccos. does this make it a "NET"?
I know most of hangsen is extracted tobacco essence. I'm not sure that would make it a NET though. You would think it would in a sense but, those doing NETs are placing actual tobacco in pg or vg and that's the finished product after time. Add nicotine. It's not so much a concentrate.

Their ry4 is another good one by itself. Ry1 isn't as sweet. Oh and their T5 is good too. It's their 555 though doesn't taste like other 555. Very nutty.

Yeah, aside from a handful of vendors(mentioned earlier) most tobaccos out there are garbage and shy new vapers away. It's a shame really..
 
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Purchased a RY4 DIY Flavor Extract (NET) from MyVapeJuice.com back in November. Mixed up a few batches (ranging from 70 to 90% VG) and found the taste to be the best DIY eliquid made in years of experimentation. NET looks to be the way to go.

Still looking for a great vendor/tobacco flavor EXTRACT recommendation from the experts on the board. I like a rich tobacco flavor and have tried a few premade flu cured eliquids over the years that were pretty nice. A great flu cured extract would be well worth a try. It would be nice to hear from someone who has located a great tobacco flavor extract. Thanks in advance for personal recommendations or link to some NET concentrate reviews!
 

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Purchased a RY4 DIY Flavor Extract (NET) from MyVapeJuice.com back in November. Mixed up a few batches (ranging from 70 to 90% VG) and found the taste to be the best DIY eliquid made in years of experimentation. NET looks to be the way to go.

Still looking for a great vendor/tobacco flavor EXTRACT recommendation from the experts on the board. I like a rich tobacco flavor and have tried a few premade flu cured eliquids over the years that were pretty nice. A great flu cured extract would be well worth a try. It would be nice to hear from someone who has located a great tobacco flavor extract. Thanks in advance for personal recommendations or link to some NET concentrate reviews!
So you know ry4 is a synthetic tobacco and not actually a NET. It was a flavor created at dekang originally and the closest to the original some say is Hangsen since the creator left dekang with his recipes and went to hangsen. You can't buy ry4 raw tobacco and add it to some vg/pg and get a NET liquid. Just letting you know that that's a synthetic and MVJ even lists it under synthetic....

You can take a NET and flavor it to resemble an ry4 if it's the proper base...

Xobeloots brown bomber is great if you can get it. Little pricey. Still it's quite good...
 
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Interesting. Very similar situation here.
What is the best NET concentrate you've tried? Thanks in advance.

Purchased a RY4 DIY Flavor Extract (NET) from MyVapeJuice.com back in November. Mixed up a few batches (ranging from 70 to 90% VG) and found the taste to be the best DIY eliquid made in years of experimentation. NET looks to be the way to go.

Still looking for a great vendor/tobacco flavor EXTRACT recommendation from the experts on the board. I like a rich tobacco flavor and have tried a few premade flu cured eliquids over the years that were pretty nice. A great flu cured extract would be well worth a try. It would be nice to hear from someone who has located a great tobacco flavor extract. Thanks in advance for personal recommendations or link to some NET concentrate reviews!

Extracts

Clay's Black Cavendish and Dover Court are always in my rotation. The taste is more fresh pipe tobacco when you open the bag or humidor than a lit bowlful of tobacco but the room note is impressive as well!
As with all NET's, they will gunk up your wick/coil pretty quickly, but it's well worth the trouble... (For me anyhow):vapor:

www.Naturally-Extracted-Tobacco.com, e-liquids for electronic cigarettes
 

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I know most of hangsen is extracted tobacco essence. I'm not sure that would make it a NET though. You would think it would in a sense but, those doing NETs are placing actual tobacco in pg or vg and that's the finished product after time. Add nicotine. It's not so much a concentrate.

Their ry4 is another good one by itself. Ry1 isn't as sweet. Oh and their T5 is good too. It's their 555 though doesn't taste like other 555. Very nutty.

Yeah, aside from a handful of vendors(mentioned earlier) most tobaccos out there are garbage and shy new vapers away. It's a shame really..

I thought so too, but apparently only Hangsen Premium line is Tobacco Absolute and the regular line is all synthetic flavoring. Hangsen Premium is available at Caterpillar Vapes :

E-Liquid - Hangsen E-Liquid - Premium - Caterpillar Vapes
 
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