VaporChase Review: Biansi eGo-T & iMist 2

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Nice review. You didn't point out that the iMist is the Ego-X (Janty). I believe Biansi is basically the new partner for Janty's ego, instead of joyetech.

Also, it's difficult to find one of these in the US. I don't know why. It's like joyetech has a lockdown on supplying most US vendors for some reason (which in turn means no actual new models from Janty). I'd love to get my hands on any new tank systems... IF they were actually available.
 

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Nice review. You didn't point out that the iMist is the Ego-X (Janty). I believe Biansi is basically the new partner for Janty's ego, instead of Joyetech.

True, I did forget to mention that. I kinda haven't been following Janty much since the incident with Scott Bonner, which made me lose a lot of respect for them.

Also, it's difficult to find one of these in the US. I don't know why. It's like Joyetech has a lockdown on supplying most US vendors for some reason (which in turn means no actual new models from Janty). I'd love to get my hands on any new tank systems... IF they were actually available.

I seem to recall that Joyetech has (or had) a clause that anyone who was an official Joyetech distributor couldn't carry competing products, so that may be why, if that clause is true. Which would be a pity because Biansi is showing serious promise as a strong contender for solid, quality eGo-type systems. Despite my not really finding the experience with their tank systems particularly satisfying, they're nevertheless showing that they're really interested in advancing the tech and making a better product. In terms of the tank systems Joye hasn't really done much; the eGo-C was more of a lateral shift, and while it did work a little better than the eGo-T in the flavour and TH departments, it was still lacking, and it still had the same wicking issues for anything but thin juices -- a problem Biansi seems to have solved, at least to a large degree. (heavy VG juices notwithstanding.)

They seem to be willing to listen to users on how they might improve things, and to that end I sent them a concept drawing for a new tank system that I think might improve things significantly, so let's see if they say anything about it. :)
 

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They seem to be willing to listen to users on how they might improve things, and to that end I sent them a concept drawing for a new tank system that I think might improve things significantly, so let's see if they say anything about it. :)

A new tank system or one that improves upon this eGo atomizer configuration?

I saw your other video on the Phoenix CE3s. That's what I'm relying on atm. How is the flavor (and warmth) with this compared to those? And is the improved wicking better? Those have some issues with thick juices too.
 

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A new tank system or one that improves upon this eGo atomizer configuration?

With any luck, yes. I hope. But we'll see what Biansi says, if anything. :)

I saw your other video on the Phoenix CE3s. That's what I'm relying on atm. How is the flavor (and warmth) with this compared to those? And is the improved wicking better? Those have some issues with thick juices too.

If you're comparing the Phoenix to these Biansi tanks, there's no comparison. The Phoenix clearos are some of the best performing devices I've used (when they wick properly). Clean, bold flavour, great vapor production, and though throat hit seems to take a slight hit, you can give it a primer puff to force a bit more juice into the wick and coil and get a nice strong thump. They're not a particular warm vape, but neither are they cool, at least talking about the bottom coil versions. The only thing these Biansi tanks do better is wick -- although to be fair when the Phoenixes do finally get the internal pressure they need, they also wick quite well. It's just that attaining that internal pressure is iffy at best so more often than not I have to give it a primer puff before I take a pull or I risk a dry hit. (And when these things give a truly dry hit, it's nasty.)
 

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I'm wondering what in the design would create "attenuation" of flavor and throat hit, since in essence what this tank design is replicating is direct dripping. I would have to think that the size of air channel cutouts in the spike plate and and the size of the air channels in the tank would have to be the culprit.

Generally, the culprit is both surface area and distance. The more surfaces there are for vapor to condense on, the more the air channels are constricted (thus accelerating the flow of vapor, cooling it in the process), and the further the coil is away from your mouth (more distance means more time for vapor to cool) all contribute to attenuation of flavour and alteration of throat hit (cooler vapor tends to have a sharper hit).

Almost all tank systems suffer from these problems due to a number of factors inherent in their design:

1. Atomizer plate and spice necessarily sit directly over the coil, providing the first surface against which vapor condenses.
2. Tank air channel are narrow, which concentrates and accelerates vapor flow, cooling the vapor and giving more surfaces on which vapor will condense.
3. Tank cartridges also have two chambers near the mouthipece end that give even more surface area against which vapor will condense: One chamber where the air channels widen into the hollow mouthpiece, a plastic separator with a small hole (further vapor acceleration and cooling and another surface on which to condense), then a secondary chamber with the same attributes, which repeats the process yet again.

The chamber and mouthpiece separators can be removed creating a large hollow area where vapor will exit straight to the mouth, which does help to mitigate the attenuation somewhat, but there's not much that can be done to deal with the distance the vapor has to travel, nor the obscuring spike plate or narrow air channels.

I have a design that could help greatly improve the tank system situation, but it's a bit more complex than current designs. It would, however, allow for a direct path for the vapor to travel from the coil to the mouth. I just have to figure out how to convince a manufacturer to try the design. Maybe I'll talk to Innokin, I have their ear. :)
 
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