VaporChase Review: Throat Hit Plus from The Vapor Pro

[Mindfield]

First in a series of reviews of throat his boosters/nicotine alternatives, which I am doing both for myself and anyone who is looking to cut down on their nicotine hopefully without having to sacrifice throat hit. So, first to be reviewed is Throat Hit Plus from The Vapor Pro. Thanks to ECF user fright88 for helping me procure this.

 

[Sedateme]

That's unfortunate Mindfield. Thanks for the review!

 

[Loveridden]

Thanks for this video! Very helpful, but disappointing, was considering trying this product specifically but now probably not...

 

[Mindfield]

Yeah, sadly I was disappointed with it too, and part of me suspects that Vapor Pro might be interpreting "throat hit" differently from the sense I mentioned in the video. Another part of me thinks that maybe I got a bad batch, considering that numerous reviews on the site speak highly of it (except one that was like me and didn't get anything out of it).

Whatever the case, it just didn't work, but it might be suitable to mix with another booster perhaps -- maybe when the Diablo Loco arrives I could add a drop to one of the bottles of THP to give it some real TH.

 

[HolaAmigos]

Thanks for this video! Very helpful, but disappointing, was considering trying this product specifically but now probably not...

I agree with you Stephanie.

Mindfield,
Crossing fingers for a good TH for you...please keep us informed.

 

[Mindfield]

I agree with you Stephanie.

Mindfield,
Crossing fingers for a good TH for you...please keep us informed.

Absolutely! I know at least one of them is going to give a good TH, it's merely a question of what kind of TH. For what very little it did, Throat Hit Plus' meagre throat hit was quite smooth, but it's useless given the quantities you need to use to get any kind of boost out of it.

Flash will again be something different -- I don't even know what goes into it, as FlavourArt don't even give a hint, but since it's designed to be a nicotine replacement first and foremost it must have a TH of some sort, so I have hopes for that one. The last one, Diablo Loco, is a highly concentrated capsaicin solution meaured at 500,000 SHU. (Translation: Police-grade pepper spray, red savina pepper, and just shy of the kind of heat in Blair's 2AM Reserve hot sauce.) It's intended to be diluted way down before use as an additive. This one I am not quite so sure about. I've vaped a home-made black pepper extract and the TH was sharp and harsh -- and of course, peppery. But I'm wagering Diablo Loco is made from diluted pure capsaicin crystals, which should be all heat and no flavour. How it hits the throat however remains to be seen.

Furthermore, it may be possible to blend one product with another to achieve something closer to an ideal TH if none of them manage to get that close on their own. (i.e. 0.5 to 1 drop of Diablo in one 6ml bottle of THP might work.)

 

[namuch]

Absolutely! I know at least one of them is going to give a good TH, it's merely a question of what kind of TH. For what very little it did, Throat Hit Plus' meagre throat hit was quite smooth, but it's useless given the quantities you need to use to get any kind of boost out of it.

Flash will again be something different -- I don't even know what goes into it, as FlavourArt don't even give a hint, but since it's designed to be a nicotine replacement first and foremost it must have a TH of some sort, so I have hopes for that one. The last one, Diablo Loco, is a highly concentrated capsaicin solution meaured at 500,000 SHU. (Translation: Police-grade pepper spray, red savina pepper, and just shy of the kind of heat in Blair's 2AM Reserve hot sauce.) It's intended to be diluted way down before use as an additive. This one I am not quite so sure about. I've vaped a home-made black pepper extract and the TH was sharp and harsh -- and of course, peppery. But I'm wagering Diablo Loco is made from diluted pure capsaicin crystals, which should be all heat and no flavour. How it hits the throat however remains to be seen.

Furthermore, it may be possible to blend one product with another to achieve something closer to an ideal TH if none of them manage to get that close on their own. (i.e. 0.5 to 1 drop of Diablo in one 6ml bottle of THP might work.)

I've played with the Diablo Loco (and to a lesser extent the Diablo Poco). I found that if i mixed the Loco at 12 drops into 30ml of pure PG, then used that mixture at 1-2 drops into 3ml of regular liquid, then it does yield a significant throat hit. If you overdo it, it will hurt! Trust me on that one, Diablo Loco is really potent stuff.

Like you noted however, the throat hit from capsaicin is a bit different from a nicotine hit, but it is substantial, and can scratch the itch once you get used to it.

 

[Mindfield]

I've played with the Diablo Loco (and to a lesser extent the Diablo Poco). I found that if i mixed the Loco at 12 drops into 30ml of pure PG, then used that mixture at 1-2 drops into 3ml of regular liquid, then it does yield a significant throat hit. If you overdo it, it will hurt! Trust me on that one, Diablo Loco is really potent stuff.

Like you noted however, the throat hit from capsaicin is a bit different from a nicotine hit, but it is substantial, and can scratch the itch once you get used to it.

Thanks for the tips and info! I suspected the TH from Loco would be a little different than a nic hit. I'm guessing it's probably similar to pepper -- kind of sharp and brief rather than smooth and radiating, would that sound about right? Have you used it straight or to boost juice that already contained nicotine?

 

[namuch]

Thanks for the tips and info! I suspected the TH from Loco would be a little different than a nic hit. I'm guessing it's probably similar to pepper -- kind of sharp and brief rather than smooth and radiating, would that sound about right? Have you used it straight or to boost juice that already contained nicotine?

Using it straight would be a bit crazy I think, I don't have the guts to try it lol! I use it to increase the hit on my normal liquids for those times when I'm just not getting what I want. I normally vape 18mg strength when I'm chain vaping...

 

[Sedateme]

I've got a few juices that would be awesome with some added throat hit... ordered some Diablo Loco. Will give it a shot and report back here!

 

[Mindfield]

Using it straight would be a bit crazy I think, I don't have the guts to try it lol! I use it to increase the hit on my normal liquids for those times when I'm just not getting what I want. I normally vape 18mg strength when I'm chain vaping...

Well, by "straight" I mean sufficiently diluted as to give the throat hit equivalent to the strength you'd normally vape, but without any nicotine. In other words, as a replacement for the nicotine to vape 0-nic liquids while still getting your desired TH. That's not my actual goal but it would be nice to know of it is suitable for that purpose or if the TH is just too harsh and should really be used as a booster for nic juice.

 

[Sedateme]

Got my diablo loco, and rather than diluting it and using it to bolster some juice... I dripped it into an atty and went at it. 18mg strength, and it's got some kick lol. It's not a world of pain... just don't try it unless you REALLY like spicy food (or it may very well turn into a world of pain!)... it's kind of like inhaling hot sauce. Undiluted the throat hit is interesting... it's pretty much the sensation you get from eating really spicy food, but in the back of your throat. My lips are burning a bit, I did sweat for just a second or two, and my sinuses are now clear. I will dilute it later and report on it's ability to help out throat hit in regular juice.

 

[Mindfield]

Got my diablo loco, and rather than diluting it and using it to bolster some juice... I dripped it into an atty and went at it.

You are a far, far braver man than I will ever be.

18mg strength, and it's got some kick lol. It's not a world of pain... just don't try it unless you REALLY like spicy food (or it may very well turn into a world of pain!)... it's kind of like inhaling hot sauce. Undiluted the throat hit is interesting... it's pretty much the sensation you get from eating really spicy food, but in the back of your throat. My lips are burning a bit, I did sweat for just a second or two, and my sinuses are now clear. I will dilute it later and report on it's ability to help out throat hit in regular juice.

I do like spicy food, but not that spicy. Not even remotely that spicy. I'll go, like, Tabasco or Frank's hot and that's about it. I used to be able to go much spicier, but nowadays my mouth is only the first part of me to complain about too-spicy foods. In a vape it might be a little different since you're only getting a relatively small amount at a time, but still ... straight? Dude, naw.

Do let me know how it goes when diluted and mixed though. That's where my main interest lies, and mine probably won't be here for another week or two.

 

[Sedateme]

Ok I've played with the diablo loco a bit. Tried it diluted in pg at 1:10 and 1:20 with similar results. It does give a sensation at the back of my throat, but I can't call it throat hit. It's similar to inhaling pepper, but not as intense. Ever eat something with cracked/ground pepper in it, and get a bit it down the wrong tube? That's what it's like... a peppery sensation in the back of my throat.

I used the diluted diablo loco in a batch of DIY banana that I made that mysteriously had 0 throat hit. I'm quite sure the peppery taste was not from the nic juice, as none of the juices I have made with this particular nic have come out peppery.

Edit: this is truly vile stuff. I have had to throw out everything I've used it in. The diablo loco taste just does not come out. You have been warned!

 

[Mindfield]

Ok I've played with the diablo loco a bit. Tried it diluted in pg at 1:10 and 1:20 with similar results. It does give a sensation at the back of my throat, but I can't call it throat hit. It's similar to inhaling pepper, but not as intense. Ever eat something with cracked/ground pepper in it, and get a bit it down the wrong tube? That's what it's like... a peppery sensation in the back of my throat.

I used the diluted diablo loco in a batch of DIY banana that I made that mysteriously had 0 throat hit. I'm quite sure the peppery taste was not from the nic juice, as none of the juices I have made with this particular nic have come out peppery.

Edit: this is truly vile stuff. I have had to throw out everything I've used it in. The diablo loco taste just does not come out. You have been warned!

Does it actually have a flavour though, or is it just that it adds this sensation? I kind of suspected that it would be something like pepper essence but I was curious as to whether it was different in any substantial way in terms of the feel going down. I wasn't expecting something that felt like the TH you get from nic, but my main interest was in seeing if it could be blended with a low nic juice just enough that it could compliment the lesser nic hit with its own enough to feel like it's a complimentary TH rather than something that feels very distinct and doesn't compliment the nic at all.

I guess I'll have to play around with it a fair bit when it arrives.

 

[Sedateme]

It is a very distinct feeling in the throat, and in my opinion, doesn't compliment the nic at all. Think of a cracked peppercorn in the back of your throat, and the slight burn you would get from that.

 

[Mindfield]

It is a very distinct feeling in the throat, and in my opinion, doesn't compliment the nic at all. Think of a cracked peppercorn in the back of your throat, and the slight burn you would get from that.

I had thought it might be something like that. After my own pepper experience I wasn't holding out a lot of hope that capsaicin would be a lot different. I guess I was mostly interested in seeing if it was any different and in what way, and how much I could add to a lower nic-based juice before it was A) noticeable and B) became distinct enough in the TH department (if it wasn't immediately so) to separate too far from that provided by the nic and rendering it largely useless.

However, it's still possible that it might work in conjunction with something else, so it'll still be interesting to use for experimentation.