Ok so if the orange red batch tastes fine im confused as to what would make one batch of casablanca red vs the normal yellow tint??? DIY peeps????
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Ok so if the orange red batch tastes fine im confused as to what would make one batch of casablanca red vs the normal yellow tint??? DIY peeps????
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Just found this on bwb website and looks a bit dated however something is definitely going on over there still.
"Many have asked about the status of casablanca.
Casablanca is not going away. However the last batch of flavoring was unusable. Our supplier refuses to fix it and we had to just reorder a new batch. Waiting for production to start, the actual production, and shipping is a very long process.
We will eventually have casablanca back. We are aware that this is frustrating for our customers. It also frustrates us and we are working as quickly as we can. We have this flavoring manufactured just for us and unfortunately there is no other place to get it.
Please do not email us about Casablanca Blend. We will update everyone as soon as we know a more concrete timeline.
Our current estimate is 6 weeks (posted 6/29)
We should have an update timeline soon. Hopefully sooner than expected. (posted7/5)
Our new batch of flavoring has shipped. Provided it arrives and is actually the proper flavoring this time, we should have casa back in a few weeks at most. Keep your fingers crossed (posted7/9)"
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"Many have asked about the status of casablanca.
Casablanca is not going away. However the last batch of flavoring was unusable. Our supplier refuses to fix it and we had to just reorder a new batch. Waiting for production to start, the actual production, and shipping is a very long process.
We will eventually have casablanca back. We are aware that this is frustrating for our customers. It also frustrates us and we are working as quickly as we can. We have this flavoring manufactured just for us and unfortunately there is no other place to get it.
Please do not email us about Casablanca Blend. We will update everyone as soon as we know a more concrete timeline.
Our current estimate is 6 weeks (posted 6/29)
We should have an update timeline soon. Hopefully sooner than expected. (posted7/5)
Our new batch of flavoring has shipped. Provided it arrives and is actually the proper flavoring this time, we should have casa back in a few weeks at most. Keep your fingers crossed (posted7/9)"
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i had a bottle of juice that separated and congealed i had dealt with this vendor for over 2yrs and spent upwards $1200 or more when i replied with an email the guy said he did not know what would make that happen and left it at that , after another reply he finally said just send me the bottle back and ill check it out , i never demanded a replacement i figured as much money as ive spent there that since it was not vapeable they would send out another bottle , thats when i started DIY and never bought another bottle of juice again
I'd be careful what you wish for.
If you think the majority of vendors are going to have the capital to meet regulatory demands you haven't read the deeming regulations very closely.Mistakes do happen and most vendors are quick to correct the issue. Especially BWB. They are some good people in my experience over the last few years.
And I thought it was just me. I tried these two for the first time recently and kept thinking something's definitely not right. After a few weeks of steeping I tried them again and there was no change.
Agree whole heartily! I'm still new to all of this but BWB has become and will stay a trusted and much ordered from vendor.
I give BWB much more credit then alien visions. Alien visions wouldn't send another bottle unless I sent mine back first BWB on the other hand no questions asked just send me another bottle. I am done with alien visions that's for sure.
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malty doesn't really have any flavor... never did... there is a light sweetness to it... that's it... you gotta do research before you buy ;-)
or... maybe it's time for a new information blitz...
I love malty, but it's a palate cleanser of a juice - made for those that want to vape more than taste.
it was originally called "eco-poor"
a clone of the expensive ecopure juice that was really popular back in the day. malty was 1/2 the price and always in stock... and just as good imo.
in fact... since it's now 2014,,, almost 2015... newbies need to know that BWB started back in 2009/2010 when most juices were Chinese and most were wayyy too strong + harsh in flavor... the owner started making juice for himself... then his friends... then it turned into a business.
many (not all) bwb juices are lighter in flavor... perfect for us super tasters... BWB was among the first to make cinnamon juices without that cinnamon oil... the oil is hot!
I'm sure some more potent brews have been added... such as the coffee and fruity ones.
but 5pawns, space jam and sweet lovers may find flavor lacking in bwb... just as I find the flavor offensively strong in many other juices.
mix malty with juices that need a little better vapor production or flavor reduction... it won't steep into anything more flavorful.
I mix it 50/50 with strong menthols.
I mix it 50/50 with strong menthols.
I recently ordered two products from The Vape Mall and both came back to me with the wrong labels on them. After many emails back and forth I was told that they could not have a label for each separate product as it would be too expensive with over 200 products and that I got what I ordered, but they had to use different labels. One was a batch of Nicotine just labeled "Vegetable Glycerin" with no mention of Nicotine. Dangerous I thought. The other was suppose to be RY4 Flavoring but was labeled RY4 e-Juice. They did not replace them so I have no Idea if they were the correct products or not. Had to throw them away as I would not take a chance on using them. And for sure I am done with such a shoddy business practice.
i recently ordered five different flavors from a large vendor. i ordered two 30 ml bottles of each of the five juices. when i received them i noticed that one of the two bottles of one certain flavor was noticeably darker than the other. this told me that they did not mix up 60 ml`s and split it between two 30 ml bottles but made each 30 ml bottle separately..why one was darker i don`t know. i assumed the darker one got more flavoring than the other lighter color bottle. i did order extra flavor shots in all the bottles. all 50/50 with the same nic level. i vaped the darker one and it taste fine. i have not tried the lighter one yet. its training and QC.
Did you get the real thing from Alien Visions, or the fakes from Alien Vapor?
Anyone know how long gorilla juice is supposed to steep?
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From Madtown Vapor, I got a Cherry Lime Slush that tasted like baby powder. I let it steep for a long time, even took the top off numerous times. No bueno. Still bad. Recently, I ordered again. This was my third or fourth time ordering from Madtown. I really liked their Kool Menthol, so I got it again. This time, it had SO MUCH menthol I couldn't even take a hit. Like so minty that the tiniest puff like blasted open my brain and sinuses so much I felt like I had had mouthwash forced through my nose and mouth at high speeds. It was just awful. Absolutely terrible. I had to rinse my tank out in hot hot water for at least five minutes before it stopped reeking like menthol. It's a bummer because I really like some of Madtown Vapor's juices, but with that kind of quality control, I don't want to ever buy from them again.
Quality control when making eliquid is something that unfortunately can go by the wayside as a manufacturer starts to get busier and busier and hasn't taken the necessary steps to plan for such rapid growth.
Speaking as someone who owns/runs a premium eliquid line, one of the keys to quality and consistency in every bottle/batch is keeping your overall batch size low (I know "low" is a relative term and can mean different things) do not cut corners trying to save time or do things faster that could compromise quality even in the slightest, and don't screw around with nic base. I see soooooo many companies try and save a nickel by upping the nic content in their base (so as to dilute it). The problem with that however is that it's very noticeable and you can smell, see, and taste the difference immediately. Don't try and save a nickel and end up losing a dime in lost customers. Do things how you've always done them and this will never be an issue...
Just my
Speaking as someone who owns/runs a premium eliquid line, one of the keys to quality and consistency in every bottle/batch is keeping your overall batch size low (I know "low" is a relative term and can mean different things) do not cut corners trying to save time or do things faster that could compromise quality even in the slightest, and don't screw around with nic base. I see soooooo many companies try and save a nickel by upping the nic content in their base (so as to dilute it). The problem with that however is that it's very noticeable and you can smell, see, and taste the difference immediately. Don't try and save a nickel and end up losing a dime in lost customers. Do things how you've always done them and this will never be an issue...
Just my
Quality control when making eliquid is something that unfortunately can go by the wayside as a manufacturer starts to get busier and busier and hasn't taken the necessary steps to plan for such rapid growth.
Speaking as someone who owns/runs a premium eliquid line, one of the keys to quality and consistency in every bottle/batch is keeping your overall batch size low (I know "low" is a relative term and can mean different things) do not cut corners trying to save time or do things faster that could compromise quality even in the slightest, and don't screw around with nic base. I see soooooo many companies try and save a nickel by upping the nic content in their base (so as to dilute it). The problem with that however is that it's very noticeable and you can smell, see, and taste the difference immediately. Don't try and save a nickel and end up losing a dime in lost customers. Do things how you've always done them and this will never be an issue...
Just my
good words. very good words.
I see soooooo many companies try and save a nickel by upping the nic content in their base (so as to dilute it). The problem with that however is that it's very noticeable and you can smell, see, and taste the difference immediately. Don't try and save a nickel and end up losing a dime in lost customers. Do things how you've always done them and this will never be an issue...
Just my
This part of what you said confuses me. I thought all manufacturers would begin with a high nic content base and then dilute it.
Or are you just saying that if you change the way you do it--say, you always used to start with 80mg/mL nic and dilute it from there and then you suddenly go up to 100mg/mL nic, diluting it from there, that the result will probably taste a little different and be noticeable to customers who are used to a certain thing?
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