RDA Veritas clone

[Smellybelly]

So I just bought a veritas clone and I have to say so far no bueno. I have a UD Imp that I've been using and before I got the veritas it was my first and only dripper so that's my baseline.

I had the guy at the shop put a build on it and he put nichrome 26g at about .75 ohms. I put in some kings crest duchess and I noticed two things right away. One, the flavor was not matching the hype that I had been reading about. My ud imp was way better for flavor and that can't be normal. Two, there was a very distinct off flavor in the veritas clone. It was kinda almost like popcorn that was slightly burnt. Very weird flavor.

I thought maybe it was the wick but then I changed that out and still same taste. Then I changed the wick again tried some Nectar by mercury and still same taste.

I tried changing the coil and I raised the bottom hex nut to see if maybe the insulator was melting or something because it looked a little deformed. I then slapped on a 26g spaced .93 ohm coil. This definitely helped but still I get that weird taste every few hits. I'm really guessing that the insulator has to be getting hot and maybe not melting but giving off fumes but I don't really know. Any body have any ideas or ways to fix this

 

[Smellybelly]

Any ideas. I really want to make the veritas work for me but the store has a 2 day return policy so if I can't figure it out I guess I could return it but I really don't want to

 

[Tagi]

The off flavor can be a couple things. Bad build, bad wicking, burning isolator, or machine oil.

There are a couple clones. You will want to check the top positive post isolator.Its just under the nuts at the top. The peek isolators are a sandy brown. If its the white one it will not handle much heat. I Usually run my Veritas's around .26 with the peek (brown) isolators and they handle it just fine.

Make sure your not getting any hot legs at all. Take the cap off and fire the mod. Blow on the coil so you can see it. There should not be ANY of the wire glowing. Pay extra attention to the legs.

Every thing checked out? Look at your wick. When pushing the coil hard I like to leave the top tail curved down to the edge of the juice well. If your top wick is cut short, does it look like its burning (slight darkening compared to the other end)

still seems good? Pull the wick, soak in everclear, rinse and rewick. This will make sure there's no machine oil and sometimes it just aint quite right and rewicking resolves it.

Rewicked and still off. Rebuild. Sometimes the coil is slightly misshaped and a small section does not make good contact with the wick and burns even without glowing red.


The Veritas is notoriously tricky to build. But if you get it down the results are hard to beat. Its my absolute favorite atty. I like it so much I ended up buying 5 of them. I still get an occasional build that wants to hot leg on me.

 

[Smellybelly]

Mine has the white insulator. Im running it around .9 ohms and around 20 to 30 watts so its not like it's that hot. I'm guessing it's the insulator. Is there any way I can replace it? No hot legs on the build and the wicks seems good. It's not like a dry hit taste but definitely not what the juice should taste like

 

[Tagi]

Fyre Fly Ecigs had them but their site says closed until July 27... Not sure whats going on there.

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/a-cheap-veritas-insulator.594314/ is a discussion about it.

The EHPro clone has peek insulators

 

[Smellybelly]

Well i went to that thread. It seems it is the insulator as someone else described it as nutty flavor which makes sense to me. Someone in that thread posted a link to ceramic nuts so I might just do that route. Not much more and still same quantity and I will never have to worry about it melting.

Kinda sucks that I have to replace something on a brand new item just to get it to work right but it is a 20 dollar clone of a 120 dollar items and if that's all thats wrong then I guess it's still worth it.

 

[Tagi]

OH yea, A ceramic replacement will be more then enough. I was able to get my peek spares from the the Fyre Fly Ecigs place before they went awol

 

[Smellybelly]

Yeah that's what I figured. I think the white insulator in my clone at least is not peek but probably nylon. I mean if your running .26 with a definite peek insulator and not getting any funkiness and I'm running .95 ohms and I'm getting weird flavor than I can only guess that a cloner would put nylon thinking it's good enough and definitely cheap

 

[Tagi]

Yup, Before I got my Authentic and \EHpro clones I first purchased the tobeco one with the white insulator. It only lasted a couple days. I had enough time to know I love the atty, but needed a better one.

 

[Smellybelly]

Yeah I think the veritas will be good but it's hard for me to think it's going to be better than my ud imp. I mean I raised the steel nuts some so they wouldn't touch the insulator and like I said it helped some but the flavor is not as intense as I was expecting and really not as much flavor to me as my imp. Now I'm sure that's just because I haven't figured out the best building for it yet and I'm comparing an atty with .4 ohm dual coils (imp) running at 40 to 50 watts to an atty with .93 ohm spaced single coil. So I'm sure that's going to take me a while to figure out.

But I'm definitely going to do the ceramic insulator and then I'm probably going to change at least the top nut. I'm thinking maybe a wing nut so it's easier to chomp it down. But really the negative screws are what give me the most trouble. Those screws are so tiny it's hard for them to chomp on the wire without it just slipping out of the screws grip.

 

[Tagi]

Do a complete 360 wrap around the negative clockwise. It will bite in and hole onto the wire. For flavor, I run 5 of these not even my Hellfire Raptor can top it for flavor. It is close thought. I get such flavor I have to 50\50 my juice with unflavored because its so strong. This atty likes a bit of heat. it works decent around .9, but gets crazy when you start pushing it.

 

[Smellybelly]

I'm sorry maybe I am not reading it right but you run 5 of what

 

[Tagi]

I have 5 Veritas rdas that bounce around my mods

 

[Smellybelly]

Oh ok gotchya. Makes since now that I look at it again

 

[Vapin Dave]

I hate my Veritas clone. The middle post just moves all around and never stays put. Crap center pin design.

 

[Tagi]

Sounds like it has worked its way loose

 

[Vapin Dave]

Sounds like it has worked its way loose

nah, loose since the day i got it. i think it is a tobeco clone

 

[Vapin Dave]

it's the only atty I never use anymore

 

[Tagi]

The positive post should have the peek nut, then 2 ss nuts, grab the bottom one next to the peek nut with pliers and screw the positive post tight. When tightening the wire snug it but don't over do it. This will minimize spinning. If its wobbly then an insulator might be missing\melted

 

[Vapin Dave]

when I do that, the pin goes up too far to make a connection on any of my mods but then when i adjust that, it loosens the center pin again