RDA Best Veritas and/or Marquis clone?

[tedigram]

So even though I'm still very meh on the whole process of dripping, I've realized that having one in the daily rotation would make switching flavors while I'm still in this "I don't know what I love yet" phase a lot easier.

All my research efforts up to this point have been entirely tank/rba focused, but I understand that the Veritas and Marquis are both generally regarded as being in the top tier for flavor. I don't know how to choose between the two, although I imagine the Veritas must be easier to build on.

But in any case, the main question: I have zero experience with clones and don't really have the time to get to know that whole world well, so I have no idea what and where the best clones for either of these RDAs would be. I'd like to avoid non-domestic sellers (international sellers with confirmed US shipping warehouses also fine). Suggestions?

 

[serene.in.dallas]

Ive got the tobeco maquis clone and its top notch. Tobeco in general makes some of the best clones out there, ive got the marquis, velocity, and derringer by them. All are top quality. The veritas is not easy to build on, however the marquis is. Its made for vertical coils and it comes with 4 posts that actually fit in the deck of the atty to help you get them lined up perfectly. Its surprisingly easy. Just remember to wrap one coil in your typical direction and wrap the other the opposite way, for instance, if you typically wrap coils clockwise you will need to do one that way and one counter-clockwise. Wicking it would be the hardest part, and its not hard, however if you feed the wick through the top of the coil you can just push it through with your ceramic tweezers or something similar.

Fyi, vapor range has the marquis and veritas by tobeco for sale. $10 for the marquis and $17 for the veritas. They also have the tobeco derringer for $8 and the tobeco velocity for $15. I believe they also have free shipping, making it an awesome site. Ive ordered from them twice and they tend to ship a day or two slower than other places, but I still highly recommend them, considering their prices and free shipping.

Hope that helps.

 

[tedigram]

Awesome. I had a vague idea that Tobeco was a top tier cloner, but like I said I'm clueless to that world. So anyhow, that's easy, thanks!

And I am surprised to hear that the Marquis is easier to build, although maybe that's just because my experience with RTA verticals has always been "eehhhhh". Although at prices like that maybe I'll just buy both.

 

[serene.in.dallas]

Awesome. I had a vague idea that Tobeco was a top tier cloner, but like I said I'm clueless to that world. So anyhow, that's easy, thanks!

And I am surprised to hear that the Marquis is easier to build, although maybe that's just because my experience with RTA verticals has always been "eehhhhh". Although at prices like that maybe I'll just buy both.

Ya, might as well get both at that price, and a derringer as well. Its a shorty atty so it can leak a bit, get hot, and spitback, but its one of the best flavor attys out there. And at $8 its a no brainer. But if you build it and wick it well its not an issue. I use mine to sample all of my DIY juice.

Here is a good video on how to get a good build on the marquis.

 

[tedigram]

Oh, yeah, wow. That's a lot easier than what I was imagining in my head when reading about building the Marquis. Awesome.

 

[Nikea Tiber]

IMO every tobeco clone I have handled has been pretty meh. Not the worst cloner by any means, but every sxk/infinite and ehpro clone I have handled has been better quality than the tobecos.

The veritas clone on fast tech that has the full height deck is pretty nice (I have one but don't have the SKU at hand). The insulator on the positive post isn't the best but as long as you are careful to avoid hot leg builds it is a great atty.

 

[Tagi]

Marquis - Tobeco

Veritas - EHPro

The Tobeco Veritas has a bad insulator. Its a whiteish plastic and will melt on you. The EHPro has PEEK.

The EHPro is difficult to tell apart from my Authentic.
The Tobeco has shallow engravings and the top cap is a little loose.

The Authentic and EHpro Veritas has a good snap with the top cap.

 

[pizza2me]

FYI... I heard that EHPro stopped making clones. They only make their own products now.

 

[herb]

Great picks in RDA's , especially if your a flavor junkie. Infinite, H.Cigar, EH. Pro and some of the newer Tobeco stuff are best bets for good quality clones .

 

[tedigram]

I ended up picking up a Tobeco Marquis. The vendor didn't have any Veritas, so I'll hold off on that one for now and see how the Marquis plays, but at least I know which clone to look for now.

Thanks for all the suggestions!

 

[tedigram]

Aaand it came today. It's currently soaking in a soap bath right now, though there was zero detectable machine oil out of the box. Overall I am already hella impressed. Great machining on everything, things look very solid. The chuff cap is perfect, easy to remove, sits flush, the post seems solid, doesn't spin, so that's all great. And all for ten bucks, freakin amazing.

 

[RipCigs]

Marquis owners, i have a couple questions. I am a big Veritas fan, but I'm having hot leg issues on higher wattages (i can "hack" it so it works, but i don't wanna have to do that every time). So i'm looking into the Marquis.

Questions are:
Are the coil legs that are not cooled down by cotton shorter on the Marquis than on the Veritas?
Would there be issues with using Ti wire for TC on it?
Can the airflow be restricted enough for a MTL?
Anyone has one from FT?

Sorry for derailing the thread a bit, didn't seem like something worth creating a new thread over

Oh and while I'm at it, i've always been a single coil guy. How much faster will my battery die on duals and hows the flavor? I'm guessing single coil on the Marquis isn't really an option

 

[brixpaul]

Had to stop using my veritas because of the hot leg's

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[Tagi]

Marquis owners, i have a couple questions. I am a big Veritas fan, but I'm having hot leg issues on higher wattages (i can "hack" it so it works, but i don't wanna have to do that every time). So i'm looking into the Marquis.

Questions are:
Are the coil legs that are not cooled down by cotton shorter on the Marquis than on the Veritas?
Would there be issues with using Ti wire for TC on it?
Can the airflow be restricted enough for a MTL?
Anyone has one from FT?

Sorry for derailing the thread a bit, didn't seem like something worth creating a new thread over

Oh and while I'm at it, i've always been a single coil guy. How much faster will my battery die on duals and hows the flavor? I'm guessing single coil on the Marquis isn't really an option

Had to stop using my veritas because of the hot leg's

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The Marquis build deck will lead to much shorter legs. It is easier to build and while similar, it is no Veritas. Air flow is much more restricted, It does well closed down for MTL.

Horizontal coils in the Veritas (for me) make the hot leg issue worse. Laying cotton on a hot leg means extra cotton for it to burn.

If your getting hot legs with the Veritas your build legs are to long. You need to change the build to make the legs shorter. Usually this means either more wraps and higher resistance at the same diameter, or using a smaller diameter and more wraps at the same resistance

Parallels are very tricky in the Veritas because you have to wrap around the screws, but the increased coil length helps stop the hot legs.

The Veritas is known for being a difficult build. It is at first, after some time with it it becomes easy.

 

[Tol]

Good to hear the Tobeco Marquis is decent, was thinking of grabbing one myself, unless there is an Infinite version floating around.

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[tedigram]

Yeah I've been using it every day, so far so good, super happy I bought it. My one complaint would be that the crown on top of the post where you secure your wires isn't aligned perfectly straight, so I end up with one leg longer than the other between coils. I'm pretty sure I can fix that, I just haven't bothered taking a look to see what I need to unscrew/tighten/move whatever to twist that crown around a bit.

Totally recommend the purchase, though.

 

[Tagi]

Yeah I've been using it every day, so far so good, super happy I bought it. My one complaint would be that the crown on top of the post where you secure your wires isn't aligned perfectly straight, so I end up with one leg longer than the other between coils. I'm pretty sure I can fix that, I just haven't bothered taking a look to see what I need to unscrew/tighten/move whatever to twist that crown around a bit.

Totally recommend the purchase, though.

It is a 3 piece positive pin. From the bottom unscrew the one you see. There is another larger screw recessed, that once a little loose you can adjust the crown alignment.

 

[tedigram]

It is a 3 piece positive pin. From the bottom unscrew the one you see. There is another larger screw recessed, that once a little loose you can adjust the crown alignment.

Oh, sweet. I expected it would be easy as that, it just literally hasn't bugged me enough to even motivate a 5 second google search haha. I'll play with that screw the next time I re-wick, though. Thanks!

 

[tedigram]

Well that was more exciting than it needed to be. First I dropped the pin while unscrewing it and had to hunt on hands and knees to find it on the kitchen floor, then for some reason it was puffing smoke from the shaft inside the crown when I tried to test fire my coils. Not sure why, took it apart again, made sure it was bone dry, then afterward there was a single puff of smoke then no more. I would have assumed it was a short, but the ohm reading never changed, so I don't know.

But anyhow, at the end of it all I did manage to do it, and I can totally see how it's super easy without butterfingers haha.

 

[Lstav2]

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