Very new to Rebuildables

[ZoinkVapes]

Hi I am completely new to rebuildables and was wondering tips, advice, and recommendations for the best cloud chasing set up. This stuff is way past me at the moment and I was hoping if someone could recommend a tank, coil, if I can use cotton balls or it has to be specific cotton, and anything else I should know.

 

[Asbestos4004]

Rebuildable or drop in coils?

 

[Baditude]

My advice would be to K.I.S.S. (Keep it simple, stupid). A simple build with a reasonably safe resistance. You wouldn't go dive into the deep end of the pool if you didn't already know how to swim, would you?

No fancy exotic builds yet; there's plenty of time to do that later. Right now, you need to learn the basics. A simple coil with an overall resistance of 0.8 ohms should be about right for you.

A RDA (rebuildable drip atomizer) is much more forgiving to beginner mistakes than a RTA (rebuildable tank atomizer). IMHO, a Velocity-style deck is easier to build on with plenty of deck space.

Learn how to build a coil by using a coil building calculator. I suggest a wire gauge of 26 or 28 round wire (kanthal or stainless steel). You can choose between organic cotton balls, Ko Gen Do cotton, Cotton Bacon, or Cellucotton (Rayon) for your wick material.

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I strongly suggest using a regulated mod for your first rebuildable. If you want to "advance" up to a mech mod later, so be it.

Information Resources for Your First RBA
Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations for a Mechanical Mod
A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod

 

[stylemessiah]

Standard cotton balls = no/last resort, for starters. Organic cotton from a vape shop/beauty shop/chemist?/online retailer or Cellucotton Rayon from similar outlets (a box of Graham/Sallys Cellucotton Rayon will last you a lifetime and gives better flavour than cotton and wicks better)

RTA - Rebuildable Tank Atomiser (tank holding juice of varying capacities)?

Or

RDA - Rebuildable Dripping Atomiser (you add the juice as you vape it, with a small reservoir at bottom of RDA)?

I earlier posted about my latest RTA, which i have found one of the best ive ever had, and is easy as you'll find to build on over here: In the market for a new Atty but what to get? in response to a request for a new atomiser, not dissimilar to your post, futher down in that thread is a review and build video...

 

[Myk]

I'm not a big cloud chaser but I can get good clouds. On the velocity style decks (and anything else) I've found bigger diameter is better. Other decks I'm limited by the space. Velocity style I go with 4.2mm rod I made for coils. Wicks do not dry out like they do with smaller diameters.

 

[AngeNZ]

Welcome aboard

I just built my first RTA as a complete beginner to coil building.

The tips above are spot on. Watch a video tutorial b4 and during your first build - it really helps you to figure out what goes where.

Good luck!

 

[DeloresRose]

I’m new to this too. You might want to read on the sub forums for RTAs and RDAs. Loads of info on different ones there. Steam engine calculates for you, or, if you want to go a little slower, you can get pre wound coils. I use the ones that come with the rba when I first get them, gives me an idea of what the manufacturers think is good for that particular rba.

 

[smacuser]

 

[the wind]

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[Coastal Cowboy]

A RDA (rebuildable drip atomizer) is much more forgiving to beginner mistakes than a RTA (rebuildable tank atomizer). IMHO, a Velocity-style deck is easier to build on with plenty of deck space.

I promote this idea, too. It's a great way to learn and gain knowledge and confidence. Nothing sucks worse than failure and failure is much less likely with the simplest rebuildable platform. Velocity-style is great because it doesn't matter if you're left- or right-handed. Southpaws have to wrap backwards to fit some post styles and you don't with a velocity.

Hard-headed contrarian that I am, I did exactly the opposite, went straight to the postless deck/bottom airflow RTA and made a mess.

 

[Myk]

Southpaws have to wrap backwards to fit some post styles and you don't with a velocity.

I remember those. I don't mind wrapping backwards by hand but my coil jig doesn't work like that, it only wraps one direction so after I got it I really resented ones that need mirrored coils.

 

[stylemessiah]

I personally wouldnt want to start out on a dual coil deck, even now 3.5 years on i think its way more work and fiddling

Or maybe im just lazy

Also ive never needed more vapour than i can get out of a simple single coil...

#NotACloudzBro

 

[uthinkofsomething]

I promote this idea, too. It's a great way to learn and gain knowledge and confidence. Nothing sucks worse than failure and failure is much less likely with the simplest rebuildable platform. Velocity-style is great because it doesn't matter if you're left- or right-handed. Southpaws have to wrap backwards to fit some post styles and you don't with a velocity.

Hard-headed contrarian that I am, I did exactly the opposite, went straight to the postless deck/bottom airflow RTA and made a mess.

You know, I'm left handed but almost always used velocity style decks and never thought about that being an issue...
I build on a postless deck mostly now and no issue with that either, holes are in a similar arrangement, just horizontal instead of vertical.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

I personally wouldnt want to start out on a dual coil deck, even now 3.5 years on i think its way more work and fiddling

Or maybe im just lazy

Also ive never needed more vapour than i can get out of a simple single coil...

#NotACloudzBro

I'm either/or. Of all the dual coil options though, velocity style is my favorite because of the space and ease of access (which I forgot to mention above). I like the 2015-ish Goblin tank which is velocity-like. It's no cloud chaser, either.

 

[uthinkofsomething]

Baditude covered it, that is amazing advice.
A good beginner cloudchaser setup with flavor on a dual coil deck rda would be 26gauge 7 wraps around 2.5mm rod. Airflow is key, you want plenty of it to take deep lungfuls, but that all depends on the atty, you may not want it open all the way. Start at low wattage, probly 35, and start working it up, more air and harder hits if the vape gets too warm for you, until you get a good cloud and flavor but it's not too hot for you. Take your time doing this so you're not just chain vaping like crazy.
Once you get the hang of single wire coils, you can easily twist 2 wires together and make twisted coils, which basically doubles the surface area of the coil and lowers resistance, vaporizes more liquid all at once. Look up twisting wire with a coffee cup on youtube haha. Ghetto but effective no tools resistance wire twisting, does not take long.
A good beginner twisted wire dual coil setup on an rda would be 2 26g wires twisted pretty tight wrapped around a 2 to 2.5mm rod, 7 wraps. That will kick some fog and have good flavor.
I like to do mixed twisted wire, right now I'm using 7 wrap dual coils 2mm id, a 26g round ka1, 28g ka1, and a flat wire .1x.8?, in an Aromamizer Plus rdta. Came out to .25 ohms and I run it at 78 watts (4.44 volts) all day long, 3 second pulls, some of the biggest clouds I've ever laid down and flavor is great. Wicked with rayon for the first time yesterday, thanks @Zaryk .
That's just what I like, I don't consider myself a real cloudchaser, I need big flavor too, but I love a deep warm lungful of tasty vape, mm mm!

 

[uthinkofsomething]

I'm either/or. Of all the dual coil options though, velocity style is my favorite because of the space and ease of access (which I forgot to mention above). I like the 2015-ish Goblin tank which is velocity-like. It's no cloud chaser, either.

Can build a nicely centered single coil on a velocity deck too, which you don't get with some other post arrangements.

 

[Coyote628]

I'm not a big cloud chaser but I can get good clouds. On the velocity style decks (and anything else) I've found bigger diameter is better. Other decks I'm limited by the space. Velocity style I go with 4.2mm rod I made for coils. Wicks do not dry out like they do with smaller diameters.

Interesting thought....

 

[uthinkofsomething]

Interesting thought....

Larger diameter coils will definitely allow more juice into the coil, less dry hit. My vaping style, my personal experience (which may not be true across the board) is that I lose flavor with a larger diameter or spaced coil. I love a 2mm id coil, sometimes will try 3mm id if space allows, but never go over that...

 

[Coyote628]

Larger diameter coils will definitely allow more juice into the coil, less dry hit. My vaping style, my personal experience (which may not be true across the board) is that I lose flavor with a larger diameter or spaced coil. I love a 2mm id coil, sometimes will try 3mm id if space allows, but never go over that...

I mostly go with 2.5 just due the the size limits of my current build decks. 3mm almost touches the inside of the cover on the bravo. My dead rabbit has a bit more space to go with 3 or 3.5 but thats just because of the top mount posts on it allow for this. Too big here and they would be sticking out of the driptip. Well, prob not really but ya get the idea.

 

[QcVaper]

imo best way to start rebuilding is starting simple.
although I do agree rdas are a great way to start since wicking is not as important it's not for everyone but these days there's squonking but there ain't many good regulated squonkers imo.

for builds i suggest round wire like stainless,can be used in temp and power mode but can be dry burned aswell (for cleaning and hotspots).
i go 3mm on all builds i get tons of flavor and vapor on a .3 0hm SS dual coils.

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