Vision spinner and vv nova tank problems

[j4ckkn1fe]

Alright so I'm using the 1300 vision spinner and the vv nova tank with a 2.8 ohm head and there is little to no flavor. I'm vaping at about 3.8 volts and I have been reading around and people have suggested cutting the wicks down which I did and that improved the flavor. Also I took out the protective material out of the head because that was burning and giving a bad taste. Is there anything else I can do because this tank looks promising and don't want to back to carto tanks?!

The juices I'm using are:

Alien Visions Flue cured 100% vg
Alien Visions Bee's Knees ("not sure on the mix but it has some pg")

Any thoughts/help?

EDIT: I forgot! The nova tank is version 2.5 .

 

[user808a]

I prefer to vape at ~4.6V @ 2.8 ohm... your wicks may be pinched. Try to lift the rubber cap that sits by the wicks up a bit and let the drip tip push it down when you screw it on. If this is the case you can trim the plastic sleeve a tiny tiny bit.

 

[j4ckkn1fe]

hmm gonna try trimming. When I vape at 4.3 which is the closest I can get with the spinner or 4.8. I get little flavor and a metallic taste almost.


Edit: Well trimming was a fail and now vapor is filling the tank...I don't see how it could be cutting it off because there is a ridge where the cap sits on and when I trimmed it went over the ridge so I had to trim off the whole base on the cap..

 

[Trolly]

Was the experience the same with the other 2 heads?

 

[j4ckkn1fe]

I tried the 2.4 and 2.8 the spinner description said not use anything under 2.0 ohms.. and yes both was the same. Little flavor and a metallic taste.

 

[user808a]

Some attys come with a primer on them that people suggest be dry burned off. I have never had to do this though.

Sorry if the trimming messed it up. Here is a pic to show what I meant. This is where the cover can possible pinch wicks. I've had it happen on a few clearomizers.

 

[j4ckkn1fe]

ugh still a metallic taste!!! Is it the tank itself? I tried the nova on the other pv's I had but still metallic taste.. >.<

 

[user808a]

Here is a thread about removing atty primer.

Here is a thread with similar metallic issues on the nova.

Another check for pinched wicks, remove the plastic sleeve and put one drop of juice directly on the atomizer, replace sleeve, try again.

And if all else fails, do you have another delivery system besides the nova that you could try? I had a few day period where my tastebuds died and everything tasted foul. Or is there someone else that can confirm it tastes bad and it's not your taste buds?

 

[SIX3SIX]

I had a similar problem with that. Was running bobas in the vv nova. It was dumping vapor into the tank and very dry hits. I come to find out thick juice in the nova just didn't work for me. I use thinner juices in it now and it works great.

 

[j4ckkn1fe]

UGH that is such a shame because I wanted to try bobas in my new setup guess I will go through this and move to pg/vg mixes

 

[user808a]

If the wicks are pinched a little the pg will have an easier time soaking though then the vg.

 

[bsidb]

Try looking at the coils themselves, is one lifted to far away from the wick? If so it could be getting too hot and causing a metalic taste

 

[SIX3SIX]

UGH that is such a shame because I wanted to try bobas in my new setup guess I will go through this and move to pg/vg mixes

I've heard of people thinning bobas with pg or distilled water. I haven't tried it though. Seems like it would dilute the flavor but it's always an option

 

[lulu836]

I have the same setup using 60/40 diy @ 4.2 which results in ~6 watts with no problems. I've tested it for flavor at above that and it's not a good idea because the juice just burns away.

 

[elmattias]

Some attys come with a primer on them that people suggest be dry burned off. I have never had to do this though.

Sorry if the trimming messed it up. Here is a pic to show what I meant. This is where the cover can possible pinch wicks. I've had it happen on a few clearomizers.

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primer mainly exists in DRIPPING attys, the nova just needs to be broken in about a half hour or so to get a little flavor buildup around the coil...think of it like "seasoning"the coil..that is why the metallic flavor more than likely...and yet another reason I've really begun to hate how popular the nova has gotten....I don't feel they are a beginner level device to be completely honest.

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[mostapha]

I tried the 2.4 and 2.8 the spinner description said not use anything under 2.0 ohms.. and yes both was the same. Little flavor and a metallic taste.

I use 1.8 ohm vivi nova heads (which actually read just above 2 ohms when I've tested them) on my Spinner. Often times, I find myself all the way up at 4.8V.

People say the vivi nova takes less power to get good performance out of, but that has not been my experience. The low-resistance heads don't taste like anything below about 4V to me, and they get better as you get higher as long as the juice doesn't burn………which hasn't been a huge problem.

I also have zero wicking issues with 100% VG juice.

My suggestion is to clean the vivi nova. Take it all apart, and run water over every piece. Dry it off, dry burn the head using this method……and see if that helps.

What you're reporting reminds me of the first day or so with my first vivi nova……incredibly inconsistent and very picky about voltage. That was the last time I just filled one & vaped it without rinsing and dry burning straight out of the box (and every few tanks worth of juice) and I haven't had that experience since.

primer mainly exists in DRIPPING attys, the nova just needs to be broken in about a half hour or so to get a little flavor buildup around the coil...think of it like "seasoning"the coil..that is why the metallic flavor more than likely...and yet another reason I've really begun to hate how popular the nova has gotten....I don't feel they are a beginner level device to be completely honest.

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I think they're less finnicky than carto tanks. But you're right. IMHO, if you're not comfortable dry-burning them straight out of the box, they're not for you. Without that, it wasn't 30 minutes to break in for me……it was days, or about until the coil needed to be cleaned anyway.

 

[j4ckkn1fe]

So I threw out that head since one of the coils was far off and got another were all of them are nicely in the middle. I probably shouldn't have done this but I watered down the juice with just a drop very little amount and mixed.

I didn't know I had to dry burn a new one. I will do that next if this doesn't work and not water down the juice.

 

[elmattias]

I use 1.8 ohm vivi nova heads (which actually read just above 2 ohms when I've tested them) on my Spinner. Often times, I find myself all the way up at 4.8V.

People say the vivi nova takes less power to get good performance out of, but that has not been my experience. The low-resistance heads don't taste like anything below about 4V to me, and they get better as you get higher as long as the juice doesn't burn………which hasn't been a huge problem.

I also have zero wicking issues with 100% VG juice.

My suggestion is to clean the vivi nova. Take it all apart, and run water over every piece. Dry it off, dry burn the head using this method……and see if that helps.

What you're reporting reminds me of the first day or so with my first vivi nova……incredibly inconsistent and very picky about voltage. That was the last time I just filled one & vaped it without rinsing and dry burning straight out of the box (and every few tanks worth of juice) and I haven't had that experience since.



I think they're less finnicky than carto tanks. But you're right. IMHO, if you're not comfortable dry-burning them straight out of the box, they're not for you. Without that, it wasn't 30 minutes to break in for me……it was days, or about until the coil needed to be cleaned anyway.

how are they less finicky than carto tanks?I mean with a nova you have to rebuild, dry burn, clean them, and pray they work, with a carto tank, you check resistance, pop it in, fill it, and vape.

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[Dregun]

hmm... I thought I read some where that Vivi Nova tanks were not to be used with 100% VG? The only thing I've heard about using 100% VG in a Nova is that you need to trim the wicks so they barely touch the sides of the tank and then you need to do the "dip and twist" method to get the juice up to the wicks.

 

[mostapha]

how are they less finicky than carto tanks?I mean with a nova you have to rebuild, dry burn, clean them, and pray they work, with a carto tank, you check resistance, pop it in, fill it, and vape.

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Also, you have to punch the holes. And you can't change flavors without just changing the carto. And when cartos fail, they fail all at once, often with no warning……which means you should probably carry a spare………and all the other crap that goes along with changing the cartomizer (and potentially dumping out all the juice in the process)……and when you are changing the cartos, you have to be careful not to damage the o-rings in the tank.

Also, they're no prayer involved so far. Maybe I'm lucky but other than overshooting the resistance I was aiming for, I haven't wrapped a bad coil. And you don't have to rebuild them. It's just cheaper and lets you use mesh (or cotton if you like it) instead of just silica (and filler in cartos).

Plus, the whole cleaning & dry burning takes about as long as it takes to change a cartomizer. Except that you don't have to wait to fill the actual cartomizer.

Cleaning Vivi Novas does use more paper towels, though. And oxidizing a wick does take time and effort. And wrapping coils including NR wire isn't the most straightforward thing ever. But it's doable.

At any rate, it's just different strokes. I just happen to like the flavor/vapor/TH I get out of my vivi novas at least as well as what I was getting out of cartomizers, and I like the fact that in my 4 Vivi Novas, one of which have been running since late July, I've used a total of 6 heads……and one of them was just because I wanted to try re-coiling with Mesh. The head I took out of that one would still work fine if I put it back in. I don't think anyone would suggest relying on a single 5-pack of cartomizers for three months, especially when you're going to be using 10 different juices in a total of 4 tanks.

Again, it's just different strokes. But I certainly didn't find carto tanks to be as brainless as people sometimes claim. Then again, I also seem to have gotten a bad run of cartomizers. I had a small pile of them die with less than 3ml of juice (each) through them.

hmm... I thought I read some where that Vivi Nova tanks were not to be used with 100% VG? The only thing I've heard about using 100% VG in a Nova is that you need to trim the wicks so they barely touch the sides of the tank and then you need to do the "dip and twist" method to get the juice up to the wicks.

That's true, but in my experience you have to do that with 100% PG juice as well if you want consistent hits. That being said, I never tried VG juice with long wicks because I grew to prefer short wicks a while before I tried 100%VG juice. Now, 100%VG is about all I use.