ViVi Nova tank won't fire after coil/wick change

[HybridTea]

I think I have done something wrong in the assembly, but I don't know what. It was my first try.

I took the tank apart and cleaned it and let it dry overnight. I removed the rubber cap on the top of the coil assembly because I wanted to see how it looked compared to a new one (this was my first coil change.) I removed the cap on the new one to see what a new coil looked like. I think I shouldn't have done this.

Unscrewed the entire old coil assembly, put on the new one, and here's where it got funky. The old rubber cap had a hollow pin protruding from the top. The new one didn't, it was just a threaded piece that was below the top of the rubber piece. I thought I had maybe lost a part so I replaced the old cap over the coil/wick assembly and put the top on. It didn't fire.

So I took it apart and put the new, pin-less cap on it, reassembled, no fire.

Something is not making contact but I don't see what I could have done. I re-seated everything and it looks normal, but when I press the button (on either of my batteries) nothing at all happens.

Are there common mistakes I've probably made? If I hadn't had back-ups, I'd have been tempted to light up an analog this morning. Combination of nicotine deprivation & frustration. I guess I learned I am still vulnerable if the d@#(*&$ things don't work correctly.

I did search here but couldn't find anything. Any help appreciated!

 

[InTheShade]

I did a blog post about this issue, basically it sounds as if the bottom pin of your vivi is not making contact with the battery. You need to remove the coil head and then push down the post inside the metal tube. You'll see it move out of the bottom of the connector where you screw it into your battery.








You can click the '1' <----- over there below my user name for a few pictures and a more complete write up if you like.

 

[Sthur]

The problem you having in there are 2 versions on vivi coils. One from vision and other from Smok. See links.

Atomizer Head for Vision Vivi Nova Tank

http://www.smoktek.com/Replacement-Coil-Head-for-the-Smok-Vivi-Nova-Tank_p_598.html

The non pin ones don't fit right one with pins. Find the same head and you wont have to jimmy with making it work.

Hope this helps.

 

[HybridTea]

Thank you, InTheShade. I tried it and it didn't help, but maybe I didn't push it down far enough, I will try again. It looks about the same as my other, working tank.

I am not sure why a search on "ViVi Nova tank won't fire" didn't turn up that blog as a result.

I have three of the "same" tanks (quotes because they're NOT the same - one has a springloaded connection to the battery, they coil heads are different (long pin v. no pin) and so on). One won't fire now, one is full of burnt juice and needs to be cleaned and re-headed which I am nervous to do now, and the one I am using whistles like crazy and has a very airy draw. Plus it tastes like gross tangerine flavor even though I cleaned it (though I didn't use vodka.)

Very frustrated this morning!

 

[HybridTea]

Okayyy, Sthur! I had no idea there were two different makes of the tank with the same name, and that the parts aren't interchangeable! I notice now (after much fiddling) that the Smok ones with the pin won't even fit in the Visions, although the reverse isn't true (they fit, they just don't WORK.)

Any help with the airy draw and whistling? That one's a Smok ViviNova (with the pin.)

 

[Sthur]

Smok is spring loaded and use pin top heads. See link above.

Vision use no pin top. See link.

Try cleaning in hot water, dry burn coils that came with tank, clean coil again to get dry burn crap off, dry, fill, vape.

True, heads fit, but won't fire. Bottom pin looks different on both of coil.

I wasn't fond of Smok due to that off taste and draw. I prefer vision mini model.

 

[CommaHolly]

you might try tightening down the head a bit,,,,,my vivi novas won't fire unless they are pretty tight,,,,,,,,,

 

[HybridTea]

So the draw is inherent in the tank, and not an error in the way I assembled it? Because it's not okay. So maybe I don't like the Smok ones either.

Now I have to go through my stuff and figure out what pieces and parts I have. I think the original setup I got, which I liked the best so far, was a Vision tank. Maybe. Now I don't even really know, and of course they aren't marked. Sigh.

Yeah, I did visit the links you sent, that's what helped me figure it out. Thank you. That was the problem. I have an assortment of the two makes and parts for them.

 

[InTheShade]

Sorry you're having issues HT, but keep fiddling, it's worth it. At the very least you'll learn a great deal about how your clearos / tanks work and be able to figure most things out without having to buy replacements.

The Vivi nova is a weird clearo, it seems that either you'll love it or hate it - there is very little middle ground. I'm more of a love it kind of vaper as I know the darned thing inside out and can fix most issues.

So that said, a whistling means there is not a good seal somewhere. As CommaHolly said, make sure everything is snug. That same seal issue could be causing an airy draw too - my vivis tend to be on the too tight side and I often have to crack the top cap a little bit to improve the draw to make it more airy.

Sthur makes a good point about the different heads too, it's confusing but the vivi nova is now almost a generic type of tank rather than a brand. I have always used genuine Vision vivi novas with flat silicon cap.

Keep fiddling

 

[CommaHolly]

true,,,,,I bought 2 boxes of Smoktech vivi nova heads for my Vision vivi novas accidentally,,,,,,,,,sigh.

 

[HybridTea]

I'n now trying to re-sort all my pieces. The top pieces are different too - don't know if that makes a difference, but it probably does. In the meantime I have a small version of the Vision Vivi Nova tank, and I'm using it, but it tasted like...absolutely nothing. No menthol coming through at all. I have no idea why that would be, because it's the same juice, but that's how it is. Not like the bigger Vision at all.

 

[HybridTea]

Okay, the airy draw was due to having the Vision top on the Smok tank. Again, it fits fine, and there's nothing to tell you it isn't right, but it isn't right.

 

[crxess]

Wrong Heads period.
There are actually sever renditions of the Vivi tank all taking their own design of head.
The only way to avoid issues is Purchase Both from the same vender.

Not firing is actually the bottom pin on the Head. It is not reaching the center contact in the tube. Nothing you can do to correct this except get the right heads. Some heads are also taller/have different top fittings.