Volcano MAGMA Kit Vs Joye 510 T

[PeterAlex]

Hi Everyone,
A few questions.
I have a Joye 510-T and i want to know if it's compatible With the Magma kit.
Which one is better?
Can i use and charge my 510-T batteries with the M-Pack (PCC) that Magma comes with?


Thanks for your help.......

 

[flbutterfly1]

I wouldn't think you could charge the T batts in the magma charger because I read that you cannot use a regular 510 charger for the T batts. The magma is a regular 510. Joye 510-T Batteries (220mah) Automatic

 

[dormouse]

I have no idea why but I have read that too - that the Joye 510-T batteries need their own charger. But you don't need Joye 510-T batteries. Just go to Cignot.com and buy a Joye 510-T tank atomizer and 510-T tanks. You can use them on your own 510 batteries.510-T attys don't need the tank batteries and will work on any 510 batteries.

Personal opinion - not worth it but sure you can try it. The 510-T tanks hold no more than a 510 cart. I think the best thing you can do with a 510 us get manual batteries, a drip tip for testing juices, and Boge standard resistance cartomizers (slim batteries cannot use the hotter LT cartos - it can damage the batteries). (assuming your PCC has notches cut out of the battery slots to allow the button of manual batteries clearance to slide in. I use the NoSmokeVA PCC which does have the notches.)

 

[bobsyeruncle]

You might actually be ok. Trying to charge your 510 batteries in a 510-T charger might be the bigger problem. I'm betting though, that you might not get a full charge into your 510-T batteries from your PCC.

As far as swapping atomizers and cartomizers between kits goes, I think you should be ok.

Have you heard of HappyVaper.com for your e-cigarette accessories?

 

[PeterAlex]

I wouldn't think you could charge the T batts in the magma charger because I read that you cannot use a regular 510 charger for the T batts. The magma is a regular 510. Joye 510-T Batteries (220mah) Automatic

The batteries that came with my 510-T set
are manual and I want to stay with manual.
Do u guys think they are the same as the magma
kit?

 

[PeterAlex]

You might actually be ok. Trying to charge your 510 batteries in a 510-T charger might be the bigger problem. I'm betting though, that you might not get a full charge into your 510-T batteries from your PCC.

As far as swapping atomizers and cartomizers between kits goes, I think you should be ok.

Have you heard of HappyVaper.com for your e-cigarette accessories?

Yes I heard of HappyVaper, a lot of accessories but no nicotine.

 

[flbutterfly1]

If you bought the 510-T as a set then you have the wrong charger for magma batts. The magma batts are regular 510's not T batts and you would need a new charger. The magma batts will work with your T atty though.

 

[bobsyeruncle]

Yes I heard of HappyVaper, a lot of accessories but no nicotine.

You want to get 2 more good posts in, wait for moderator approval, then hop on over to the Canada forum to inquire about getting e-juice in Canada.

You can put your Magma atomizers on 510-T batteries and vice versa. But when you're charging batteries, use the 510-T charger only for 510-T batteries.

 

[PeterAlex]

Thanks guys,
Last question.
Is the Magma M pack PCC going to work with my manual batteries? I can I like this case

Thank you for your help and effort

Thank you for all your help and effort

 

[bobsyeruncle]

Your PCC might not give the 510-T batteries a full charge. I doubt it will hurt your batteries, though.

 

[dormouse]

No - 510-T batteries say they can only use their own 510-T charger. Today somebody just fried an Ego trying to charge it in a 510-T charger (and I mean fried - heat, vented battery liquid, very very dangerous). I highly recommend you NOT mix 510 and 510-T and their chargers or PCCs. I recommend you not even buy 510-T batteries. I am starting to suspect they may be reverse polarity. Just go to Cignot.com (or some Canada place if you are in Canada), buy a 510-T atty and 510-T tanks and use them on your real 510 system.

Some vendors just put 510-T atty and 510-T tanks with normal 510 batteries and sell it as a kit but you just can't be sure. So only buy the 510-T atty and tanks. The last thing you want are a bunch of identical looks batteries and chargers that can melt or explode each other's stuff.

 

[PeterAlex]

I think I found a PCC that would charge pretty much all the joye 510 and look alike batteries
Gemini2 Exclusive Portable Charging Case

 

[Thulium]

The Volcano Magma is a rebranded 510. You'll want to check the fine print of any applicable warranty, but I see no reason why Magma batteries and atomizers would not be fully compatible with 510 chargers. As others have mentioned, you must not use eGo/Inferno "fat" battery chargers with 510 "slim" batteries or vice versa, but except for a few chinese knockoffs that have reversed polarity, nearly all 510 batteries, chargers, and atomizers are made in the same factory in Shenzhen, China.

 

[flbutterfly1]

510-T batteries cannot be charged on any regular 510 chargers. Do not use the Magma charger with T batts, do not use the Gemini charger with T batts. I would only use the charger that came with the 510-T with the T batts. If you had a regular 510 battery and then it would work with the magma charger and many other 510 chargers. T batts are not plain 510 batts.

 

[Thulium]

510-T batteries cannot be charged on any regular 510 chargers. Do not use the Magma charger with T batts, do not use the Gemini charger with T batts. I would only use the charger that came with the 510-T with the T batts. If you had a regular 510 battery and then it would work with the magma charger and many other 510 chargers. T batts are not plain 510 batts.

What is the difference?

 

[bobsyeruncle]

510 Charger:

Output voltage DC 4.2V
Max output Current DC 150mA

eGo Charger:
Output voltage DC 4.2V
Max output Current DC 420mA

The eGo charger will fry the smaller batteries. Another way to fry batteries is to put them on a charger with reverse polarity.

However, putting an eGo (or a 510-T battery) on a smaller charger (i.e. 510) will likely not kill it. You just may not be able to fully charge it.

I tried getting the specs on a 510-T charger with no luck, but I believe the specs are very similar to the eGo charger.

If you've got two or more systems with incompatible voltage/amperage specs, but the battery connectors are compatible, I suggest you find a good way to clearly label them to keep the two separate.

 

[PeterAlex]

My 510-T Kit Charger:

Output 4.2V/150mA
However, putting an eGo battery in a smaller (less mA) charger, it will still charge it full but it will take longer

 

[bobsyeruncle]

Huh. I think they gave you a 510 charger. If it's charging your 510-T batteries ok, they should be ok in your PCC. But your PCC probably won't give them a full charge.

Does your charger look like this?

(510-T charger)

Or this?

(510 charger)

 

[Thulium]

Do not use ego chargers on 510 batteries or vice versa.

However, I am not aware of any reason why the Volcano Magma chargers and batteries would not be completely compatible with Genuine JoyE 510 batteries or chargers.

 

[flbutterfly1]

The magma batts and chargers are compatible with regular 510 batts and chargers. The magma is a 510, NOT a 510-T. I have a magma pcc and charge my regular 510 batts in it both joye brand and other 510 batts.