volts and watts

[imeothanasis]

I have said 3-4 times what volts and watts are but many people still ask me about a 5 volt GG, so I will expalin again:

the ohms law says: I=V/R.

Volt is the electrical potential difference between 2 points. The two points are the battery's poles.

Also, volt is when a current (I) of one ampere dissipates one watt (W) of power in the conductor.

Ampere is the current (I) that flows through the resistance (R) which is the atomizer.

I hope that I explain it as easy as I can, so lets see what is going on with e-cigs.

When we smoke an e-cig, the volts make the current flow through the resistance and produce the watts that is the smoke, the throat kick etc. So watts are what we want to meassure in our e-cig because they give us the result we want. I will give and example:

A device has 10 ohm resistance, and we put a battery of 10 volts inside. Then the current that goes through the resistance is 1 ampere because I=V/R=10/10=1. Watts are: IxV=1x10=10

So this device produce a 10 watt effect in smoke, throat kick etc.

So a device of 5 volts and 5 ohm resistance gives a 5 watt power.

If we try to produce the same watts with a 10 volt device, we have to make a new atomizer that can give us the same power.

I just made these new atomizers that they can produce the same watts as a 5 volt device without regulators, without electronic parts inside the GG, without "stop functioning" electrical devices, without making a larger GG, nothing at all!!! I just change the resistance of the atomizer.

So the result is exactly the same because if we want to have a spesific result, we have to lower volts or increace the resistance. I thought the opossite from the other people as I always do and I increace the resistance, so I made a bigger atomizer that solved all HV problems with e-cig devices without making complicated devicesm that will get corrupt in near future.

Things are simple but the simplicity is much more difficult that the complicacy.

Its easy for me to make a strange device with many parts on it but its very dificult to make it work the same just making it simple.




Also, please dont forget the new "battery" that me and Thanos are making and it will produce any volts you want up to six volts!

 

[womblebat]

well described

a question on your new battery, is it far from production and what mah will it be?

 

[imeothanasis]

well described

a question on your new battery, is it far from production and what mah will it be?

Hi Alan!

Thanks friend about the explanation, I hope its simple for most people

I put a quote to the name "battery" because its not a battery but is a small robotic system that produce any volt up to six volts from a 3,7 volt battery. I say that its a "battery" because this small system will be housed in a small cylinder like a CR123A battery. It goes in row with the real battery and it can gives any volt and it will be powered by the existing real battry inside the GG.

If I was not very clear, please tell me

 

[NickJuice]

Its a Voltage Booster? Other mods have used those...a few well known....But the battery needed(mAh) to power the booster to sustain a high voltage like that left very few batteries able to do it...and those few were large and the lose of usage time enough that it made no sense not to use two smaller batteries

 

[womblebat]

Hi Alan!

Thanks friend about the explanation, I hope its simple for most people

I put a quote to the name "battery" because its not a battery but is a small robotic system that produce any volt up to six volts from a 3,7 volt battery. I say that its a "battery" because this small system will be housed in a small cylinder like a CR123A battery. It goes in row with the real battery and it can gives any volt and it will be powered by the existing real battry inside the GG.

If I was not very clear, please tell me

Ahh ok that clears it up thanks and since we can get 1200 mah cr123's this will be very handy, so are the volts user selectable or do we choose the "battery" for the volts we want?

 

[imeothanasis]

Ahh ok that clears it up thanks and since we can get 1200 mah cr123's this will be very handy, so are the volts user selectable or do we choose the "battery" for the volts we want?

You have to choose them before you buy it Alan because it will be closed to the case without being able to open it and adjust the volts. The reasons for this are two:

1) the wires will get corrupt if you try to open the case because they are soldered on caps and on side of the case.

2) If you touch the selectable switch more than 4-5 times it will get corrupt too. It is made for very few adjustments, its not a mechanical switch.

 

[womblebat]

You have to choose them before you buy it Alan because it will be closed to the case without being able to open it and adjust the volts. The reasons for this are two:

1) the wires will get corrupt if you try to open the case because they are soldered on caps and on side of the case.

2) If you touch the selectable switch more than 4-5 times it will get corrupt too. It is made for very few adjustments, its not a mechanical switch.

Cheers for the reply Sakis, so that gives our 5v fans two options now, the "battery" and the multi voltage passthrough..very nice

 

[emonty]

Great, Great Great..... exactly what I was looking for. Imeo: thank you again and again and again !!!!

 

[vapn]

Very well explained imeo... that really helped me understand your new atty much better. I look forward to trying each of them out with all combinations of batteries.

Do you think the increased resistance will help our batteries last longer or will it use them up faster? I think you already answered this to me once before but I don't really remember what the answer is.

 

[Lisaf01]

Imeo, I think you explained this really well - I hope everyone understands now how and why you have done this and that you've tackled the 5volt vaping issue from completely the other angle that everyone else did - as you always do.

 

[abhowe]

Will the 5.0 volt be available for the GGT or only in the GGS..... I think this may have been answered but forgot...... Sorry.....

 

[womblebat]

Will the 5.0 volt be available for the GGT or only in the GGS..... I think this may have been answered but forgot...... Sorry.....

It's the same size as a cr123 battery abhowe so it will fit your GGT no problem

Just to add there is possibly a third way to achieve 5v as vapn is describing in his post below
if you used two 3v cr2 batteries coupled with a 7.2 immeoattie, the greater resistance in the 7.2 atty could possible reduce the 6v from two cr2's to 5v, not 100% sure here but the theory seems sound

 

[vapn]

Ab I think we may have a little different experience with these new atties than what you know as 5v. The 5v you are thinking of is a regular atty a regular 6v(2-3v) battery and a resistor in line to bring the voltage to around 5v. The new imeo atty offers more resistance than the regular atty hence no need for the in line resistor. With the added resistance of the imeo atty we can use more voltage and get a close to "5v" experience. You will just have to try different combinations to find one you like. At the moment he is offering two atties 6v and 7.4v. I believe the 7.4v has more resistance built in and will allow us to use the 7.4 battery configuration (2- 3.7v batts) without blowing it up and this will be just like vaping as we know it times 10.. more vapor, throat hit etc...

I know this is confusing at first but once you find your "Sweet spot" you will not want anything else.

 

[imeothanasis]

Very well explained imeo... that really helped me understand your new atty much better. I look forward to trying each of them out with all combinations of batteries.

Do you think the increased resistance will help our batteries last longer or will it use them up faster? I think you already answered this to me once before but I don't really remember what the answer is.

Vapn, the batteries will last +50% more to six volts, than they last now

 

[imeothanasis]

It's the same size as a cr123 battery abhowe so it will fit your GGT no problem

Just to add there is possibly a third way to achieve 5v as vapn is describing in his post below
if you used two 3v cr2 batteries coupled with a 7.2 immeoattie, the greater resistance in the 7.2 atty could possible reduce the 6v from two cr2's to 5v, not 100% sure here but the theory seems sound

thats it Womb!

 

[imeothanasis]

Ab I think we may have a little different experience with these new atties than what you know as 5v. The 5v you are thinking of is a regular atty a regular 6v(2-3v) battery and a resistor in line to bring the voltage to around 5v. The new imeo atty offers more resistance than the regular atty hence no need for the in line resistor. With the added resistance of the imeo atty we can use more voltage and get a close to "5v" experience. You will just have to try different combinations to find one you like. At the moment he is offering two atties 6v and 7.4v. I believe the 7.4v has more resistance built in and will allow us to use the 7.4 battery configuration (2- 3.7v batts) without blowing it up and this will be just like vaping as we know it times 10.. more vapor, throat hit etc...

I know this is confusing at first but once you find your "Sweet spot" you will not want anything else.

thats right vapn

 

[abhowe]

You guys are smart, Imeo is a genius with electricity....... I am pretty good with practicing medecine....... But, I am absolutely stupid with this electrical stuff....... Please be patient with me, because I just don't understand.......
If someone could tell me what to buy, to make my GGT a 5.0 volt, I would be very happy and would take your advice...... I know the outcome, I want...... Just don't know what to buy from Imeo to make it happen..... Just call me " Dummy "

 

[womblebat]

You guys are smart, Imeo is a genius with electricity....... I am pretty good with practicing medecine....... But, I am absolutely stupid with this electrical stuff....... Please be patient with me, because I just don't understand.......
If someone could tell me what to buy, to make my GGT a 5.0 volt, I would be very happy and would take your advice...... I know the outcome, I want...... Just don't know what to buy from Imeo to make it happen..... Just call me " Dummy "

You could wait until the "battery" comes out to buy and choose the 5v version abhowe or get a 7.2v immeoattie and use it with 2 cr2 batteries..that should bring it down to 5v

p.s if you practice medicine ab this makes you far from a dummy

 

[abhowe]

Thank you Womblebat...... Are the CR2's 3.0 V or 3.6 volts ??????? Thank you in advance....... Imeo is coming out with a 5.0 V battery ????????

 

[ggero]

No abhowe ...The new "battery" has a manual switch for adjustment at several output watts !!