VV batteries vs. VV mods

[nufan]

So I have a Vision Spinner (with a protank 2) , it's like an e-go twist. I use 2.2 ohm coils and even when I make my own I shoot for that same resistance.

I have been looking at mods like the E-vic, iTaste, etc. My question is, what is the benefit (if any) to the mods? I vape at around 5 volts consistently and can adjust the voltage on my Vision Spinner from 3.3-4.8. I can do math so I know how to get to the wattage that I like given the resistance.

Please let me know if I am missing something, as I am only 2 months into vaping.
Thanks!

 

[klynnn]

I love my spinners, one of the best batteries I've bought. Much prefer over the twist since I have old eyes. The thing about mods is the rechargeable batteries. The mods last much longer and all you have to replace are the batteries which are cheaper and also very long lasting. Once you stock up on a few 18650 type batteries and charger all you have to do is stick a new one in the mod and you are good to go for another day. I am using rechargeable batteries I bought in 2012 with the same mod I bought then. My spinners died last year. In the long run you save it depends on how much you want to save.

 

[Cookster]

To me, it just seems that the "larger" APVs just have more "oomph", YMMV.

 

[Craig_B]

I have the MVP 2 and it feels like it has more power than my ego v2 at the same setting. The battery last for around 750ish puffs. The MVP is a rechargeable unit vs replaceable battery but last all day. I'm also a new vaper, just what I've experienced in my short journey.

 

[nufan]

I love my spinners, one of the best batteries I've bought. Much prefer over the twist since I have old eyes. The thing about mods is the rechargeable batteries. The mods last much longer and all you have to replace are the batteries which are cheaper and also very long lasting. Once you stock up on a few 18650 type batteries and charger all you have to do is stick a new one in the mod and you are good to go for another day. I am using rechargeable batteries I bought in 2012 with the same mod I bought then. My spinners died last year. In the long run you save it depends on how much you want to save.

what would be your guess as to the life of a "fixed battery" like a spinner or e-go twist?

 

[klynnn]

It would have to depend on how much you use it. I might use mine when I go out and they last all evening and into the morning if I'm partying hard. Since I have gotten into using the apv that's all I use at home. The batts are rated for 300 charges, it depends on how much you vape. I was a 2+pad smoker and could go through a 1300mah spinner in about 11 hours which at the time I thought was great. Now since I have seen the light a 3400mah battery will last me 2 days.

 

[Craig_B]

Charging your battery before it is completely drained increase the life also!

 

[klynnn]

When my batts get to 3.5 v I always recharge. I was lucky enough to start buying them a year ago with FT. I bought 2 each month with my orders very cheap. They are not as cheap in the states. I now have 16 and just bought 2 new efest 2100 mah yesterday.

 

[Nikkita6]

So I have a Vision Spinner (with a protank 2) , it's like an e-go twist. I use 2.2 ohm coils and even when I make my own I shoot for that same resistance.

I have been looking at mods like the E-vic, iTaste, etc. My question is, what is the benefit (if any) to the mods? I vape at around 5 volts consistently and can adjust the voltage on my Vision Spinner from 3.3-4.8. I can do math so I know how to get to the wattage that I like given the resistance.

Please let me know if I am missing something, as I am only 2 months into vaping.
Thanks!

I have a Twist, a VV/VW APV, and a few Mechs ... what you miss is the additional function of an APV such as ohm meter, battery voltage check, and varying battery configurations ie:18350/500/650 depending on the APV. You also mentioned that you rebuild your coils, so wouldn't it be nice to be able to check your resistance on your device? .. I do hope you have a resistance meter for checking your builds.

 

[LX1X]

So I have a Vision Spinner (with a protank 2) , it's like an e-go twist. I use 2.2 ohm coils and even when I make my own I shoot for that same resistance.

I have been looking at mods like the E-vic, iTaste, etc. My question is, what is the benefit (if any) to the mods? I vape at around 5 volts consistently and can adjust the voltage on my Vision Spinner from 3.3-4.8. I can do math so I know how to get to the wattage that I like given the resistance.

Please let me know if I am missing something, as I am only 2 months into vaping.
Thanks!

vv mods.. if the battery goes bad.. replace the battery.. spinners.. if it goes bad.. you toss the whole thing.

other things like somebody mentioned.. built in ohm meter and battery charge information.

 

[pufZeppelin]

It would have to depend on how much you use it. I might use mine when I go out and they last all evening and into the morning if I'm partying hard. Since I have gotten into using the apv that's all I use at home.
The batts are rated for 300 charges, it depends on how much you vape. I was a 2+pad smoker and could go through a 1300mah spinner in about 11 hours which at the time I thought was great. Now since I have seen the light a 3400mah battery will last me 2 days.

Charging your battery before it is completely drained increase the life also!

I read, copy / pasted this from Battery University:

Li-Ion does not need to be fully charged, nor is it desirable to do so...

in fact, it is better not to fully charge, because high voltage stresses the battery
every reduction of 0.10v% (charging) is said to double the life cycle of battery;

-charging the li-ion cell to 4.2v, expect 300-500 discharge cycles
-charging the li-ion cell to 4.1v, expect 600-1000 discharge cycles

so, charging the battery to 4.1v (not full 4.2v) will double the life of your battery...

since reading this, I no longer allow my battery to 'complete' its charge, I try and stop at 4.1v

 

[nufan]

Oh yeah I check my coils and charge my Spinner every night when i go to bed, I do have an e-go with an led battery indicator for a back up. My fiance still uses her e-go led and evod tank and her's vapes lick a pro and consistent. I have not had that same luck.
My protank 2 sometimes feels like i'm sucking on a milkshake! Hence why I am always looking at new combos.

 

[nufan]

I read, copy / pasted this from Battery University:

Li-Ion does not need to be fully charged, nor is it desirable to do so...

in fact, it is better not to fully charge, because high voltage stresses the battery
every reduction of 0.10v% (charging) is said to double the life cycle of battery;

-charging the li-ion cell to 4.2v, expect 300-500 discharge cycles
-charging the li-ion cell to 4.1v, expect 600-1000 discharge cycles

so, charging the battery to 4.1v (not full 4.2v) will double the life of your battery...

since reading this, I no longer allow my battery to 'complete' its charge, I try and stop at 4.1v

oops! I just put it on the charger when I go to bed and take it off in the morning. it sits on the charger for at least 7 hours every night

 

[Silent Scream]

You're not missing out on anything. I have an Ego V V3 VV/VW it cost about 30 pounds and I love it. I also bought an Ego Twist for about 8 pounds from FT and I love that too. The people who buy mods will tell you how X mod is amazing and it lasts forever and is well worth the exorbitant price for a steel tube that can hold a battery.

The next month they will ditch it and tell you to buy the new expensive 'in vogue' steel tube which is much better at holding a battery.

Stick with what you've got IMO.

Edit: I should point out that the steel tubes that are amazing at holding batteries don't come with any batteries.

 

[klynnn]

I never ever charge anything including cell phones etc unless I am awake and paying attention. That is one thing I have learned and never deviate from.

 

[Susaz]

I've been to both ends. VV batts that died on me after a few months and also vv mods that failed me after a while.

I use mods at home to power high end rebuildables such as Kaifuns and a trident. And to go out I use the SLB ego vv because it's light, 1300 mAh and a passthrough, and goes all the way to 6v. I have both things and use them both. The MVP has been a huge dissapointment, the contact being too deep and most things don't make contact. Plus, it's an akward shape to carry around on a lanyard. The only thing it's been useful for is charging my cellphone on a power outage.

I suggest you keep both ends. Buy good quality items and try not to drop them. It's an equal tragedy to lose a DNA20 mod or a ego, specially if it's your only one. Favor passthroughs for going out, easy to plug into your car lighter in need.

 

[klynnn]

No I am not into the best mods, I am looking at which ones will last me through a collapse and how well I will be prepared to handle my habit through it. That is why I stock up and stay stocked up on equip I find versatile and long lasting. I guess you can call me one of those evil preppers but it certainly isn't for show value.

 

[nufan]

I've been to both ends. VV batts that died on me after a few months and also vv mods that failed me after a while.

I use mods at home to power high end rebuildables such as Kaifuns and a trident. And to go out I use the SLB ego vv because it's light, 1300 mAh and a passthrough, and goes all the way to 6v. I have both things and use them both. The MVP has been a huge dissapointment, the contact being too deep and most things don't make contact. Plus, it's an akward shape to carry around on a lanyard. The only thing it's been useful for is charging my cellphone on a power outage.

I suggest you keep both ends. Buy good quality items and try not to drop them. It's an equal tragedy to lose a DNA20 mod or a ego, specially if it's your only one. Favor passthroughs for going out, easy to plug into your car lighter in need.

sorry, what do you mean by a "passthrough"?

 

[Thatguy717]

You can Vape when your charging the mod, the current "passes threw" the device and allows you to Vape.

 

[nufan]

You can Vape when your charging the mod, the current "passes threw" the device and allows you to Vape.

ahh gotcha!