Can someone explain to me as if I were a child why VW is the new way to go in PV's? I'm new at vaping and don't understand how this works.
VW or VV?
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well before things get scientific it boils down to you do not need to worry what resistance your atty cart clearo is if you are using vw
with vv you really do have to think about the resistance
with both you still must adjust for juice
with vv you really do have to think about the resistance
with both you still must adjust for juice
If you vape a lot of different juices, you need one or the other, though it doesn't particularly matter which IMO.
Variable voltage means you can change the voltage on your pv. When you do this you need to make sure the resistance (ohms) of your carto, atty, clearo etc is matched within a range so you don't under power your vape or over power and end up frying something by the amount of watts you go to.
Variable wattage has been around for quite a while now. The Darwin is a variable wattage mod. However they are virtually impossible to get. A lot of vapers added variable wattage to their pvs by using the Kick - a small piece of circuitry that can be put on top of a battery.
The latest variable wattage devices have variable wattage incorporated into the pv. You can set the watts (power) and the pv will automatically adjust the voltage for the resistance (ohms). You don't have to calculate using ohms law.
The newer variable wattage devices also have variable voltage - so you can use either on the same pv. Variable wattage is more convenient. You can change from a cartomizer to a clearomizer, or a tank while vaping, and stay at the same watts, or adjust the watts - and not have to calcluate whether your volts are ok for the ohms of your clearo, carto, or tank. The voltage is automatically adjusted for you.
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I have both but I prefer VW. I leave it set at 7.5 Watt and very seldom ever adjust it nomatter what type of carto I'm using and get the same hit everytime. Some people adjust theirs for different juices but I basically vape only a few different flavors and I like them all at 7.5.
I almost got duped into believing VW is the "wave" of the future. It's just one of several options. Like another poster said, you can achieve the same setting by doing the math in your head. It's quite simple, really. I usually multiply the ohms by two. If it's 1.8, I usually vape at around 3.7 volts. If it's 2.0 ohms, I usually vape around 3.9-4.0 volts. If it's a high res carto, 2-3 ohms, I'll crank my Twist all the way to 4.8. Same with my Torpedo, and my Kgo. I've RARELY vaped at 5 or more volts. Always comes across as hot, or burnt, or just ever so slightly off.
I've spent some time with a Zmax (or b&m carries them) using the VW, and honestly, I didn't taste a difference. It tasted exactly the same on my devices. So, it's nice to have that option, but you don't need it, and it's definitely not the wave of the future in vaping. We've got a lot more in store for us, I feel.
I've spent some time with a Zmax (or b&m carries them) using the VW, and honestly, I didn't taste a difference. It tasted exactly the same on my devices. So, it's nice to have that option, but you don't need it, and it's definitely not the wave of the future in vaping. We've got a lot more in store for us, I feel.
Two sides of the same coin, as long as you know the resistance of your atty/carto either can be set to do the same job. The new DNA 20D chip from Evolv will allow you to adjust either one.
No-one is claiming juices will taste different to vv with vw. ??
I have both vv and vw on the same pv. I prefer vw because its more convenient. I use vw 98% of the time. I have vv there if I want it, but find myself using vw.
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VW is like driving a car with a cruse control; set it and forget it. It will adjust itself for the various atomizer resistances, just like a cruse control will adjust itself to maintain a constant speed as the car goes up and down hills.
Some people like cruse controls because it removes one aspect of driving, that of having to constantly glance at the speedometer and making those minor adjustments to the gas pedal.
Some people don't like cruse controls for the opposite reason.
Some atomizers, if not all, will change resistance somewhat over time, so to get the same vaping experience you'll need to keep a constant check on the resistance just like you have to constantly check the speed of a car. But with VW this requirement is removed.
Some people like cruse controls because it removes one aspect of driving, that of having to constantly glance at the speedometer and making those minor adjustments to the gas pedal.
Some people don't like cruse controls for the opposite reason.
Some atomizers, if not all, will change resistance somewhat over time, so to get the same vaping experience you'll need to keep a constant check on the resistance just like you have to constantly check the speed of a car. But with VW this requirement is removed.
Bad advice, as usual, for a new person, like the OP.
Both VW and VV will give you more options and "generally" a better vape. VW is the best option as already explained. Getting any "well built" variable PV that also is boosted, regulated and has a strong enough switch regulator will allow you to use any atty/carto and thus give you the most options to find what works best for you. But most importantly it gives you consistency which you don't get with fixed, unregulated PV's.
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i used vv with this chart, read the top versus the left to get to wattage. With VW you just choose what you want. I liked the cruise controll explenation too. 2 means to the same end i think.
edit: just to say, i still use my twists, so haven't used vw (yet)
i used vv with this chart, read the top versus the left to get to wattage. With VW you just choose what you want. I liked the cruise controll explenation too. 2 means to the same end i think.
edit: just to say, i still use my twists, so haven't used vw (yet)
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Stalking as usual I see.
Easier I will agree with, it's much easier to push a buttom or turn a wheel than to think. "generally a better vape" I dissagree with.
I have both VV and VW, but strangely enough the two PV's that I use the most are both plain old 3.7v fixed voltage mods.
The drop off from good quality batteries is so marginal that all it does is indicate when it's past time to swap out batteries. The main reason that I say that is because all of the new wave VV and VW devices from China lack the consistancy of a simple battey by itself. They simply do not compare to your darwin or a provari.
Have a nice day wv
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As usual, you are out in left field from everyone else. And as usual, you disregard, or more likely just don't understand, the more important points made in my post.
A little 3.7 fixed volt PV cannot compare to the performance and consistency of a well built variable volt or variable watt PV with the feature I described, no matter what you state, that's just plain misleading BS which is not helpful to a new person. And I predicated my comment with specifics about what is a "good" VV or VW PV, yet you reference cheap budget models from China.
And it is not "strange" that you think that a fixed 3.7 volt PV is better than a well built VW/VV PV. Based on your posts, the word "strange" fits you quite well.
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I think you two have very valid points but, please keep the discussion civil and free of personal attacks. Any further continuation of this behavior will be dealt with accordingly.
The cruise control comparison hit home with me. I like to be able to switch between my different ohmed tanks without checking ohm and adjusting voltage. Sure, its not a huge effort to do so, but it is even less of an effort to not do it. At the most I have to press a button.
I've also found the Evolv VW devices (Darwin and use of Kick Module) and Provape's Provari to have very consistent vapes. Often, I'm surprised that the battery suddenly needs charging.....it's that good.
I don't have much experience with other VV and the very new Chinese VW devices, so no comment on them today.
And, I still use unregulated devices quite a lot. I see room for both in my arsenal and adore my unregulated box mods.
Some have said VW is the wave of the future for vaping for quite some time......even before I started vaping. This is not a new concept---- and guess what----they were right as the future is upon us.
And, I don't expect the concept of VV and VW choices in one device to go away soon......at least this vapor hopes not. 
I don't have much experience with other VV and the very new Chinese VW devices, so no comment on them today.
And, I still use unregulated devices quite a lot. I see room for both in my arsenal and adore my unregulated box mods.
Some have said VW is the wave of the future for vaping for quite some time......even before I started vaping. This is not a new concept---- and guess what----they were right as the future is upon us.
And, I don't expect the concept of VV and VW choices in one device to go away soon......at least this vapor hopes not. - Status
