Week in to vaping, time for some re-fills. help?

[bsop]

So i got my Vapor4life vapor king a week ago (kr808 manual). and i have to say i love it. I ordered the wall charger, one battery, and some cartomizers because i wasn't entirely sure what i would need at the time.

Anyway, im looking to place another order, a passthrough seems like it is a must, as well as another battery. I do have a question though. One- it looks like refilling the V4life carts would be easy, would i just add a few drops into the mouthpiece end and vape away? If this is the case, i plan on getting some liquid to put into my carts so i can always have a fresh one, so here are where im looking for some opinions.

V4life doesn't sell liquids, so ill probably be going somewhere else. How is the Rath juice, and/or the litecigUSA vendor? Their prices seem cheap and i do like the fact that Rath juice is 100%USA made- quality control is pretty important. Basically i would be looking to get a Passthrough, some liquid, and another battery- unless the battery on the passthrough can be removed and used portably. I really only need 2 manual batts because i have a PCC and dont vape all that much, but enough that while im waiting for my batt to charge (like right now) i really want a few drags...


Basically, is Rath juice good (vapor-wise and flavorwise), would it be an issue to re-use my current carts, and if i get a passthrough, should i get another battery as well?


Thanks for any help you guys can give me, and it always seems to come quickly- such a great community.

-Ben

 

[Belletrist]

they do sell liquids, darlin'. the nobacco juice is refill liquid, if you wanna get the same flavors.

 

[Lau517]

I just got my PV today so I am by NO MEANS an expert... very much a noob myself but maybe I misread your post. Did you say that Vapor4Life doesn't sell juice? Because I just ordered some from there...

 

[bsop]

Oh, that they do, i didnt look at all of them- didnt realize that some of them do indeed have nic in them- my only concern is if they are made in america?

 

[TheBlueAdept]

I haven't tried the Rath juice, but Vapor4Life does sell liquids, for what it's worth. I just double-checked their site and see 5/20/30ml sizes.

5ml is a good 'starter' size to use until you know which flavors you really like.

Nobacco E-Juice 5ML for Vapor King E-Cigarettes

You should have no trouble reusing your carts many times, even if prefilled. I've read that it helps to 'wash them' if you are switching flavors and don't want to taste both...

My current setup is 2 auto batteries. That's it. No pass-through yet. I'm using one, and the other charges. So far, I always manage to have a charge when I need it... Am about to get a Vapor King with Pass-through so that will really seal the deal.

I think 2 batteries + PCC is a fine setup for going out and such. If it were me I'd get an extra battery just to have a spare, again mainly for going out.

 

[bsop]

Yeah they do sell liquids, I was a bit rushed and mistaken- are their flavors good? I would prefer to go USA made for the quality control issues. I did like their carts, just some of them were a little weak on flavor- Peach was excellent however.

 

[scheherezade]

Check the juice reviews. I order from several different places. You may not always get one you love, but if you use the forum as a guide, you'll always find a good vendor. I'm new, but so far I've used Johnson Creek, Ms. T, Tasty Vapors and cignot. All have been great with good shipping times.

 

[TheBlueAdept]

I don't know where the Vapor4Life liquids are made.. I would imagine if they were USA it would be prominently stated.

 

[Poeia]

Rath Juice is 100% VG so it has great vapor production. Some people find all VG a little bland.

I started at 100% PG, went to all VG and now find a blend works best for me.

 

[bsop]

Thats what im thinking i will do- the pass through would really just encourage me to vape more often anyway so a 2 battery set-up may be my best option, what is the general life cycle of the KR808 batts? anyone know how many full cycles it can handle?

 

[TheBlueAdept]

I don't know about those specific batteries, but have seen estimates than range from "100-300 charge cycles" to "300-500 charge cycles". I think it depends on the battery (quality, manufacturing process etc), and your usage/charging pattern.

I can't find the link easily, but saw a great post on here that linked to a place (I think it was the Battery Institute) with good info on li-ion batteries in general.

Speaking of 'full cycles', they recommend recharging when 20% charge still remains I noticed; does anyone know whether the battery starts blinking (to be recharged) at the 20% level, or some other level??

 

[bsop]

Oh, and also another quick question: When my battery is secured into my PCC and i close the PCC, the manual button becomes depressed against the side of the reservoir- Does this prevent it from charging and just drain the battery or (as i suspect) is the button disabled when charging?

 

[bsop]

Ive read that the blinking light should be programmed at the "optimum level" for a recharge- but I've noticed the vapor becoming weaker toward the end of its cycle, so maybe jumping the gun a bit wouldnt harm it- as Li batteries dont have a memory.

 

[TheBlueAdept]

Agreed, the '80% rule' is more to increase longevity of the cell and not due to any memory effects.

I'm not sure on the PCC/Manual battery button question, I only have auto batteries for the PCC I use. Not sure if that would end up being harmful, ineffective or makes no difference.

 

[bsop]

hmm. im hoping is makes no difference- the LED on the batt doesent turn on so im thikning it doesent drain it. Still, it would be nice to know for sure before i go draining my only battery...

 

[Belletrist]

the batts seem to be disabled when charging. i've never had a prob with my man'l and PCC.

if you want US mixed juice, i'll have to second the TastyVapor recommendation

 

[PCoraJr]

the batts seem to be disabled when charging. i've never had a prob with my man'l and PCC.

if you want US mixed juice, i'll have to second the TastyVapor recommendation

I agree with Belletrist, i am new to vaping and so far i have tried full PG juice as well as full VG. The full PG juice to me is a bit to strong and VG is to Smooth so the key is a mix of both and i am going to try that next week. I will be ordering from Tastyvapor, they have the option of having a custom Juice made with 10,20 or 30% VG in it. A search on this forum seem to indicate that 30% VG seems to be the perfect spot for some. Thats what i will be trying.

 

[jericoriver]

Your best bet on refilling them is to pop the end off and the rubber o ring out . Just tip the cart on about a 45 degree angle and drip on the wicking material untill it is saturated. My new blank ones hold 1 ml and I use a syrenge to fill them the first time. After that I top off with 8 or 10 drops.