What 18650 battery should i buy

[mcjimmy]

OK ECF. I'm in info overload at the moment. on impulse i ordered the Lemo Drop and a dna 50 clone ( might not have been the best choice but it was cheap and thought i'd take a chance). My ? is what battery. the specs say Input voltage/current: 3.2-4.3V/ 1.5-15A and Output voltage/current: 1.5-11V/10A. I dont think i need a 30 or 35 amp battery. There are so many batteries out there and i just dont know whats real or whats hype (or fake). Any help would be great Here's a link to the mod i ordered. i can handle a mod going bad just not boom.

focalecig I cant post a link but its the 50 watt on the first page of there USA warehouse page

 

[ElConquistador]

With a regulated mod, assuming it does it's job, you don't need to worry too much about blowing your face off. It won't operate if there's a short or if you're trying to push it too hard.

I'm personally sold on AW batteries. I also have a couple of efest batteries that have been fine in a regulated mod. For a reputable vendor, take a look at RTD Vapor.

 

[ElConquistador]

Oh, and buy nothing but IMR type batteries.

 

[invisiblehand13]

You probably will not need high amp but the high amp I trust right now are LG HE2, LG HE4 and Samsung 25R, happy vaping

 

[VaperDynasty]

On my Sigelei im running 2 efest IMR18650 battires they have been good to me so far

 

[invisiblehand13]

On my Sigelei im running 2 efest IMR18650 battires they have been good to me so far

Rewrapped LG HE2's lol or VTC's depending on which purple efest you are referring to, but with efest they are re-wrapped batts no matter what...

 

[InTheShade]

AW batteries have already been mentioned from www.rtdvapor.com, they also have the Sony VTC4's. Yes, you'll pay a little more here, but they are an excellent vendor with fast shipping and excellent customer service.

The Samsung 25R's are also a good choice - safe chemistry and rated to 20 amp continuous discharge. If you want those, I'd recommend Illumn.com - Flashlights, Batteries, Carry Gear, Intelligent LED Lighting, and More! < Illumination supply.

These folks are another great vendor and you can also get those LG HE2's mentioned above here for $7.50 each.

There are other batteries out there that will fit your needs, but for me, I'd rather pay an extra dollar or two and know I am getting a battery that will perform to specs, is genuine and from a manufacturer that will not overstate its limits (*cough* efest)

 

[mcjimmy]

Thanks. I dont plan on pushing it. planing on building a .7 to 1.6 ohm in the lemo. IDK thou its all new to me. I just feel like i need more than im getting from my nautilus and istick. I'll get an RDA to play with but i think kayfun style rba's are going to be the thing for me. so could i go with a 3200 mah 10 amp battery ( i pulled thous specs out of a dark place you dont need to know about) of just buy the 2500 mah 20 amp one

 

[mcjimmy]

thanks intheshade

 

[mcjimmy]

Flat top or button top. Flat top right?

 

[InTheShade]

Rewrapped LG HE2's lol or VTC's depending on which purple efest you are referring to, but with efest they are re-wrapped batts no matter what...

If you believe efest they say only 3900 pieces of the 2100mAh battery were re-wrapped VTC4's. They go on to say that all red and purple efest batteries are made by them. Read an email from an efest rep http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/batteries-chargers/587759-purple-efest-18650-battery-warning-16.html#post14548607

Just as a point, if I bought some efests and they were rewrapped VTC4's I'd be delighted.

 

[InTheShade]

Thanks. I dont plan on pushing it. planing on building a .7 to 1.6 ohm in the lemo. IDK thou its all new to me. I just feel like i need more than im getting from my nautilus and istick. I'll get an RDA to play with but i think kayfun style rba's are going to be the thing for me. so could i go with a 3200 mah 10 amp battery ( i pulled thous specs out of a dark place you dont need to know about) of just buy the 2500 mah 20 amp one

It's not just the amp rating that is important. You need an unprotected (protection circuits in batteries often mess with circuit protection in mods) safe chemistry (not ICR, but IMR / hybrid) battery from good vendors that don't sell fakes.

We often think nothing of dropping a ton of green on a mod and then don't want to pony up for a good battery. It's probably the single most important part of your equipment. Don't skimp.

Flat top or button top. Flat top right?

There is no difference in performance. Only issue is do they fit? I can't get into focalecig at the moment to look at the device to check, but most people do get the flat tops yes.

 

[ElConquistador]

Depends on the mod, some are picky about flat vs. button top. Personally, I'd rather sacrifice mAh's for higher amp ratings. I'm not a big sub-ohmer, but I like lots of cushion.

 

[mcjimmy]

I just watched a Pegasus Vapor Academy video on youtude where he says sony never really made the vtc batteries so all the sonys vtc's are kinda fakes. "Vaping & Batteries: Things You Should Know" about 9 mins in. He said Sony used a sub-contractor to make some batteries at one point and the sub just keep making batteries with the Sony name after the contract ended. IDK just what he said.

 

[DFYLR]

The best advice I could give is to get the most versatile batteries you can find. You may at some point want to jump to mech mods or an unregulated box, and you'll want batteries you can use in all of your stuff.
Out of Sony VTC4, Purple Efest, and Samsung 25R, I like the Samsungs the best. My builds are generally in the mid-subOhm range (.4-.6) and I definitely get the best performance and life out of these little blue babies.

 

[InTheShade]

I just watched a Pegasus Vapor Academy video on youtude where he says sony never really made the vtc batteries so all the sonys vtc are kinda fakes. Vaping & Batteries: Things You Should Know about 9 mins in

Sony didn't make the VTC4 for general release consumer applications like vaping, which is why they don't have any branding on them. They were made to be used in packs for laptops and power tools and other semi-permanent applications. Actually most flat top batteries are made to be used in applications where they are hard-wired into devices.

Button top batteries are for consumer applications with the button designed so we can see which end is positive to aid us in correct insertion.

But Sony did make the VTC3, 4 and 5. In fact some rumor I saw somewhere suggests they are tooling up another plant and are going to do another run of the VTC5's (unconfirmed, no source, no link, consider this a lie)

 

[IanDVaypes]

I wouldn't use a 10 amp battery on a mod, regulated or not. I would keep it at 20 amps if you're doing 5-20 watts. The efest 20 amp 3100 mah battery works great for me in that area. But if you're going to use it in 50 watts all the time, a 35 amp battery is all I would trust. You'd get better performance through the life of the battery vaping at 50 watts.

 

[mcjimmy]

Hmm, looking at the numbers .3 ohms at 50 watts is 12.91 amps. and .4 at 50 is 9.68 amps. So i think a 10 amp max battery would work but at the max of it safe range. so it looks like the highest maH with at least 20 amp continuous discharging current would be a winner. I might try the Efest 3100 or the Samsung 25R's. i'll look around a bit more. And thanks again for all the input and advice.

 

[PhillyfreedomV8pr]

LG he2 or samsung 25r. My LG last longer than my vtc4.

 

[Norrin]

Not going to try and explain this you can google to check if you like, but high amp batteries will last longer than low amp batteries. A sony VTC5 with 2600mAh will last longer than a purple 3100mAh efest, I know it sounds wrong it has a lot to do with us not fully discharging batteries. Anyway high amp batteries will in most cases last longer and in virtually all cases take more charges before they are totally spent so even for regulated devices the cheap option is the expensive battery.