What are the pros to building vertical coils?

[Stacy1]

I am new to vaping, and have just started dabbling in RDA's. In researching how to build my own coils, I have found that there are so many different ways in which people do this. I've built the regular micro coils, nano dragons, diamonds etc... and I keep seeing vertical coils. What is the purpose in building coils vertically versus parallel to the deck? I'm loving the idea of having control of my set up and RDAs definitely provide more flavor than my mini pro tank 2's and 3's. Sorry for such a noob question but just trying to educate myself

 

[Porksmuggler]

Others will chime in with preference based on performance, flavor, etc. I'm sure, but I do vertical coils for a one simple reasons alone, convenience.

I wrap 1.4mm ID coils with P&C cotton yarn. Cotton's great, but with the juices I like, gets pretty gross after a couple days. Using a vertical coil lets me easily set up a lower side longer wick, and pull it up and snip it off as the portion under the coil gets gunk build up. Cotton yarn wicks well enough that a U wick isn't needed anyway, so this lets me keep the wick fresh without replacing the whole thing in between full cleans.

 

[State O' Flux]

I am new to vaping - What is the purpose in building coils vertically versus parallel to the deck? I'm loving the idea of having control of my set up and RDAs - Sorry for such a noob question but just trying to educate myself

Some RDA decks are laid out in such a way (Origen, Veritas) - with vertically staggered posts, that vertical coils will provide the shortest legs - and a slightly lower resistance for a given coil. From another perspective, they simply take up less horizontal space on the build deck.

With RTAs... like a KFL or R91%, verticals will dramatically influence the wick layout - and effect air flow characteristics.

 

[classwife]

Moved to Coil Builds from APV Discussion

 

[BobC]

Besides space considerations, vertical coils are meant for atomizers with bottom air feed holes. The theory is that the coil wrapped in hemp fiber, cotton, and if you're not concerned about it, Rayon, placed directly over the air hole(s), enables you to draw the air through the coil for a truer vape. The flavor is then enriched, affording you to taste true undertones of your liquid.

It's the only coil I use for my Russians, Kayfuns, Taifuns & Foggers

 

[politbureau]

Besides space considerations, vertical coils are meant for atomizers with bottom air feed holes. The theory is that the coil wrapped in hemp fiber, cotton, and if you're not concerned about it, Rayon, placed directly over the air hole(s), enables you to draw the air through the coil for a truer vape. The flavor is then enriched, affording you to taste true undertones of your liquid.

It's the only coil I use for my Russians, Kayfuns, Taifuns & Foggers

Great explanation here, and I agree. Vertical coils also work well on the Magma, as the outlet hole is directly below the coil. I also like dual coils (ie. 'double barrel') for the Kayfun et al, as it maximizes surface area.

My current favourite is a Diamond coil on the Veritas which I just received. It's challenging to get right (one leg is always going to be pretty long), but I find it easier to build than the tricro. And because the airflow comes directly through the coil, the flavour is fantastic - probably the best I've experienced so far.

If you're looking for an easy way to get great vapour and very decent taste, I'd check out the nano dragon coil. Relatively easy to build, and also easy to wick and re-wick. I build mine on the smallest post in a Tobeco coil jig (~0.9mm), with 27 or 28ga Kanthal, to about 07 - 0.8 ohms. Works best with direct, side inlet airhole RDAs.

My next quest is to build a dual Diamond on the Mutation X when it arrives!

 

[vapero]

I use verticals on my origens and veritas as those are designed to work that way because of the juice well on them, I use horizontal on my quasars and every other normal rda as the wicks on both ends are touching the well, but for my omegas as the wall is really high but not the airhole I tend to build them at a 45° angle just for the ease of rewicking them

 

[sedition]

How do you guys wick the vertical coil? I love verticals in theory, but haven't been able to get the wicking down in practice.

 

[Misk]

How do you guys wick the vertical coil? I love verticals in theory, but haven't been able to get the wicking down in practice.

I can't claim credit for the idea because I saw it on YouTube, but take a piece of wire and make a very small hook out of it. Push the hook down through the coil and use it to fish the cotton through from the bottom of the coil. Make take a few tries to get it down, but it is the easiest way I have found.

 

[politbureau]

How do you guys wick the vertical coil? I love verticals in theory, but haven't been able to get the wicking down in practice.

I prefer simple wicks - no pillows or wick clouds or any of that, and generally think less is more... On a vertical coil, I straight down through the coil so the ends of my cotton are just touching the deck. The top of my wicks I twist together and wrap around and over the centre post to facilitate simple dripping. That's it. Make sure your cotton is tight inside the coil.

 

[Siochanai]

How do you guys wick the vertical coil? I love verticals in theory, but haven't been able to get the wicking down in practice.

On my Veritas I have been using a single parallel 0.6 ohm vertical coil working great btw amazing vapor and flavor. To wick them I have been using a blunt tip 25 ga needle and my wiha fine point esd tweezers. In my case you are essentially double wicking the coil a folded piece of cotton which you split to each channel then snip the top and lay over the coil into the channel. I find on my atty thin wick is much better then big and fluffy especially with this coil. It can handle just about any wattage I have been able to throw at it and wick great.

So when doing vertical on a deep well atty to not hesitate to use less cotton instead of trying for the big cloud. It will wick much better. Hopefully the picture would show why vertical coils are better on this atty. I think it was mr Flux from one of the above posts who directed me to how this atty should be built and I love him for it. The thing is working 20 times better then with the horizontal coils I was using this Veritas is a beast and worth the money.

 

[obiz]

does wicking harder on vertical?

 

[Siochanai]

does wicking harder on vertical?

On my Veritas RDA yes it is difficult you tend to have to use thinner wicks and shimmy them through due to the deep well and the coil being so close to the well wall.
On other RDA's that allow vertical coils should not be too bad you just need to remember to bring a part of the wick over the top of the coil like I have in my picture down into the deck otherwise you might have problems.

I find vertical coils wick the juice very evenly from the top and the bottom as long as the coil heats from the center there should be no partial dry hits at all.

 

[wonkeypickle]

verticals are nice on the tobh with how the tabs are, however the vapor production just isn't there compared to a regular coil.

 

[edyle]

How do you guys wick the vertical coil? I love verticals in theory, but haven't been able to get the wicking down in practice.

Position the coil for the air to pass through the center of the coil, and wrap the wicking around the coil and not pass through the coil