What do you guys recommend, looking to upgrade.

[gmx1994]

So right now I have two vapes. I have the J2P Silver Dragon Clone and the sigelei 100w v1 box mod. The tank I am using is the Dark Horse RDA Clone with a 24 gauge nichrome coil at .2 Ohm.. On my Silver Dragon I have a High Drain battery - 2500MAh, 3.7v, 35a. Now battery wise on my Silver Dragon any thing I can do to make it blow more clouds. Because it blows a good amount just wondering if I could make it blow more getting a better battery... On my Sigelei I have the red batteries 18650 - 2500MAh, 3.7v, 35a. Now is that good with the Dark Horse RDA I have or is there room to upgrade to get more clouds... on both of my vapes.. I am new so bare with me if I got too carried away with throwing alot of info out there..
Thanks !

 

[Wolfenstark]

If the battery has an amp limit to handle the builds and wattage your vaping at your ok.

Use an ohms law calculator to see how much amps you will be pulling from the battery.

35a will be good for probably all builds.

If thats all good then the vapor production is from the build , watts , liquid , atty you use.

Usually lower Ω builds like sub ohm below 1 and high wattage and a higher VG liquid is what many do for vapor production.
Some also like more wraps.

I'm not a cloud chaser - Do have an RDA - currently at 26 gauge dual coil 7 wraps 0.5Ω I guess the vapor production is ok.

 

[drunkenbatman]

So right now I have two vapes. I have the J2P Silver Dragon Clone and the Sigelei 100w v1 box mod. The tank I am using is the Dark Horse RDA Clone with a 24 gauge nichrome coil at .2 Ohm.. On my Silver Dragon I have a High Drain battery - 2500MAh, 3.7v, 35a. Now battery wise on my Silver Dragon any thing I can do to make it blow more clouds. Because it blows a good amount just wondering if I could make it blow more getting a better battery... On my Sigelei I have the red batteries 18650 - 2500MAh, 3.7v, 35a.

First of all, the customer coming into a vape shop going "I have top of the line stuff how can it be better also do you have a bedazzler" is basically a vape shop's wet-dream, and while I hate to take it away from them duuuuuuuuuuuuude you've pretty much already got the tiger by the tail at 0.2ohm. For more/bigger clouds your best bang-for-buck is probably just removing the airflow ring from the dark horse, playing with other atomizers like the doge/mutation x/big block, etc, and refining your coils and wicking.

I mean, since you have a clone I might suggest you check it's current voltage drop in case some of the silver plating has worn off (100% possible), and there is a 150w version of the sigelei where you can head into 0.1 territory, but man -- there's gotta be way more low-hanging fruit than that.

 

[St0rm]

Higher clouds would be gotten by lowering your ohms or upping the voltage. Higher amps will only increase the range in which it can operate (lower ohms)

 

[gmx1994]

If the battery has an amp limit to handle the builds and wattage your vaping at your ok.

Use an ohms law calculator to see how much amps you will be pulling from the battery.

35a will be good for probably all builds.

If thats all good then the vapor production is from the build , watts , liquid , atty you use.

Usually lower Ω builds like sub ohm below 1 and high wattage and a higher VG liquid is what many do for vapor production.
Some also like more wraps.

I'm not a cloud chaser - Do have an RDA - currently at 26 gauge dual coil 7 wraps 0.5Ω I guess the vapor production is ok.

What coil wraps do you think I should go with and what coil material?

First of all, the customer coming into a vape shop going "I have top of the line stuff how can it be better also do you have a bedazzler" is basically a vape shop's wet-dream, and while I hate to take it away from them duuuuuuuuuuuuude you've pretty much already got the tiger by the tail at 0.2ohm. For more/bigger clouds your best bang-for-buck is probably just removing the airflow ring from the dark horse, playing with other atomizers like the doge/mutation x/big block, etc, and refining your coils and wicking.

I mean, since you have a clone I might suggest you check it's current voltage drop in case some of the silver plating has worn off (100% possible), and there is a 150w version of the sigelei where you can head into 0.1 territory, but man -- there's gotta be way more low-hanging fruit than that.

What better tanks do you recommend trying and using?

Higher clouds would be gotten by lowering your ohms or upping the voltage. Higher amps will only increase the range in which it can operate (lower ohms)

But isn't .2 Ohm already good enough?

 

[St0rm]

Yes it is, you might want to experiment with higher ohm, 0.8+, with 28 or thicker wire on your sigelei, works a lot better for me then a mech

 

[itskohler]

Higher clouds would be gotten by lowering your ohms or upping the wattage. Higher amps will only increase the range in which it can operate (lower ohms)

Fixed that for ya. Watts are what create the vapor, not necessarily volts.

 

[KenD]

Just a word of warning; your batteries are probably not more than 20 amps continuous, meaning that you're exceeding their amp limit with a .2 ohm coil. To my knowledge there are no 18650s with a higher continuous dicharge rating than the 30 amp Sony vtc-series.

 

[Withdrewandi]

Airflow airflow airflow

And of course 100% vg juice

As for the rest are you insane

 

[edyle]

First of all, the customer coming into a vape shop going "I have top of the line stuff how can it be better also do you have a bedazzler" is basically a vape shop's wet-dream, and while I hate to take it away from them duuuuuuuuuuuuude you've pretty much already got the tiger by the tail at 0.2ohm. For more/bigger clouds your best bang-for-buck is probably just removing the airflow ring from the dark horse, playing with other atomizers like the doge/mutation x/big block, etc, and refining your coils and wicking.

I mean, since you have a clone I might suggest you check it's current voltage drop in case some of the silver plating has worn off (100% possible), and there is a 150w version of the sigelei where you can head into 0.1 territory, but man -- there's gotta be way more low-hanging fruit than that.

^^^^^^
That.

OP, you've already got top grade hardware; what you need now is practice and experience making your own coils and wicking, and looking at airflow.

 

[Jetsetter]

Try running two or four coils, but of course beware of the total ohms.

On a Plume Veil I run dual (two) coils...each coil is 30awg wire, with 3 strands parallel....7 turns...2.4mm hole....comes out to around 0.35 ohms total for both coils combined.

Id imagine that using nichrome along with 24awg at 0.2 ohms, there arent very many turns or surface area. But i bet it gets hot fast.

I think the red batteries youre referring to are the LG HE2 batts? Sony VTC5 are very good.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

Kind of in another direction, but, I have found that having multiple tanks is convenient. My stand will only hold 8 RTA/RDAs and 8 bottles just behind. It gives me easier choices.

 

[MichiganGoat]

If it's a true 35a battery you should be good but if they are just red with no way to know brand I'm always worried.


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[Wolfenstark]

What coil wraps do you think I should go with and what coil material?



What better tanks do you recommend trying and using?



But isn't .2 Ohm already good enough?

The coil wraps depends on what resistance you want - The wire used , diameter , atty.
Coil material well Kanthal A1 is mostly used , theres round , ribbon, twisted but get the round for first time builds.
Nickel wire for temperature monitoring mods but at this stage stick with the round Kanthal A1.

If you meant what wicking material then its usually rayon or Japanese cotton thats used by most people. Some people like one and other people like the other then people like me who have and use both.

One may absorb better or the vape tastes better etc but even though i use both I don't see an obvious difference between the two nor am i going to sit down and spend any time doing a comparison.

Yet some will say oh hands down this is better - So if you want just get some of each do some builds and you can pick one if you like.

Back to the wraps - Well like I said that depends on what resistance you want - Most people after clouds seem to go very low 0.2 Ω 0.3Ω but need to check that your battery is capable when you have a resistance that low and use high wattage.

Liquid and the atty you use obviously play a part - This atty is the best some will say and this atty is the best others will say.

 

[gmx1994]

That's alot of replies, I thank you guys. Very helpful. Now a question I have is coil wrapping. I will now be switching to kanthal a1. Does twisting help any or what's the deal with twisted coil wraps ? Battery wise. Which ones do you guys recommend, brand wise and amp wise for blowing good dense clouds. Also where can I find 100% VG juice that's not harsh and has 0 nic.

 

[KenD]

If it's a true 35a battery you should be good but if they are just red with no way to know brand I'm always worried.


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There are no true 35a batteries.

 

[drunkenbatman]

Just a word of warning; your batteries are probably not more than 20 amps continuous, meaning that you're exceeding their amp limit with a .2 ohm coil.

There are no true 35a batteries.

KenD is right you know. Good catch while everyone (myself included) was focusing on the flash.

 

[gmx1994]

So I am ordering some Kanthal A1 wire. Now what gauge should I get it in? Is 28 find for what I'm wanting to use it for. What does twisting do in builds? Is there an advantage to doing that?

 

[edyle]

So I am ordering some Kanthal A1 wire. Now what gauge should I get it in? Is 28 find for what I'm wanting to use it for. What does twisting do in builds? Is there an advantage to doing that?

28 gauge is standard in rebuildables. Yes 28 will be fine; 1 ohm coils.

If you get thinner gauge wire, you can twist it together to simulate a thicker gauge, plus get more surface area than the thicker gauge would have given.

 

[gmx1994]

So I am ordering some Kanthal A1 wire. Now what gauge should I get it in? Is 28 find for what I'm wanting to use it for. What does twisting do in builds? Is there an advantage to doing that?