What "higher-end" vv/vw box to get? Hmmmm

[jpcwon]

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but do you find a difference in battery performance between the dna 40 and the SX350? More specifically, many mods have significantly worse performance when the battery reaches 3.7 volts (including the YiHi chip in y sigelei 20W), so by battery performance I mean do you notice a difference between the two when the batteries are below 3.7 volts. If you could tell me what kind of wattage you typically vape at, that would be helpful as well.

Well I just got the SX 350, so it is a bit early to tell exactly how the 2 mods behave when the battery goes down below 3.7 (I usually charge my batteries throughout the day so they rarely drop below that to be honest). Obviously the Vaporflask has amazing battery life as it is a dual 18650 mod, but my Hana DNA 40 (single 18650) is solid down to the last drop of battery life.

Let me get back with you in a few days after I have a chance to really compare the 2 chips. I usually vape between 20-40 watts BTW (depending on if I'm running a dripper or a tank)...

 

[caged]

Well I just got the SX 350, so it is a bit early to tell exactly how the 2 mods behave when the battery goes down below 3.7 (I usually charge my batteries throughout the day so they rarely drop below that to be honest). Obviously the Vaporflask has amazing battery life as it is a dual 18650 mod, but my Hana DNA 40 (single 18650) is solid down to the last drop of battery life.

Let me get back with you in a few days after I have a chance to really compare the 2 chips. I usually vape between 20-40 watts BTW (depending on if I'm running a dripper or a tank)...

Thanks! I'm surprised more people aren't curious about this.

 

[Technonut]

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but do you find a difference in battery performance between the DNA 40 and the SX350? More specifically, many mods have significantly worse performance when the battery reaches 3.7 volts (including the YiHi chip in y Sigelei 20W), so by battery performance I mean do you notice a difference between the two when the batteries are below 3.7 volts. If you could tell me what kind of wattage you typically vape at, that would be helpful as well.

I've had the SXmini since November... I have tested the device under load with a Smok Omnitester, and find the SX350 Mini to be incredibly accurate. I mean just about whatever voltage output is shown on the SXmini's display is what is shown on the Omnitester. This level of accuracy has been confirmed in at least one other review. The resistance reading as well. When pulling the battery, whatever the display is showing is what my XTAR VP1 reads when the battery is inserted, within a couple of decimal points.

I find the SXmini to be consistent in power output all the way down to the 3.3v cut-off.. No surprises with reduced power as the battery drains. PBusardo just released a short teaser vid of the SXmini, and should have the full review (with his famous scope readings) soon. I'm certain he will be blown-away by the performance.

EDIT: One of the things I don't like about my ProVari is that the device will trip the cut-off under load while vaping, even though there is some battery life left. I can watch the SXmini's battery voltage / sag reading dip below 3.3v under load. It only cuts-off when the battery's actual resting voltage is 3.3v.. VERY sweet.

I have been vaping for over 4 years now, and demand accuracy and consistency in my regulated devices. Hell, I was around when the very first production regulated devices came out. Personally, I wouldn't own ANY of the other devices currently coming out of China except for the SXmini, and have absolutely no buyer's remorse at the $189.99 price.

I am a ProVape fan, and have placed my purchase of the P3 on the backburner since owning the SXmini if that tells you anything. I've also owned Evolv DNA 20 /30 devices, but wasn't impressed with the lack of step-down. The DNA 40 takes care of that, but I still find the SXmini to be more feature-rich, except for the lack of temp-protection. That will be taken care of in March when the SX350J is released. I'm REALLY looking forward to it.

 

[snow blind]

I've had the SXmini since November... I have tested the device under load with a Smok Omnitester, and find the SX350 Mini to be incredibly accurate. I mean just about whatever voltage output is shown on the SXmini's display is what is shown on the Omnitester. This level of accuracy has been confirmed in at least one other review. The resistance reading as well. When pulling the battery, whatever the display is showing is what my XTAR VP1 reads when the battery is inserted, within a couple of decimal points.

I find the SXmini to be consistent in power output all the way down to the 3.3v cut-off.. No surprises with reduced power as the battery drains. PBusardo just released a short teaser vid of the SXmini, and should have the full review (with his famous scope readings) soon. I'm certain he will be blown-away by the performance.

EDIT: One of the things I don't like about my ProVari is that the device will trip the cut-off under load while vaping, even though there is some battery life left. I can watch the SXmini's battery voltage / sag reading dip below 3.3v under load. It only cuts-off when the battery's actual resting voltage is 3.3v.. VERY sweet.

I have been vaping for over 4 years now, and demand accuracy and consistency in my regulated devices. Hell, I was around when the very first production regulated devices came out. Personally, I wouldn't own ANY of the other devices currently coming out of China except for the SXmini, and have absolutely no buyer's remorse at the $189.99 price.

I am a ProVape fan, and have placed my purchase of the P3 on the backburner since owning the SXmini if that tells you anything. I've also owned Evolv DNA 20 /30 devices, but wasn't impressed with the lack of step-down. The DNA 40 takes care of that, but I still find the SXmini to be more feature-rich, except for the lack of temp-protection. That will be taken care of in March when the SX350J is released. I'm REALLY looking forward to it.

I'm really excited for the SX350j... I bet YiHi will release another SX mod.. Maybe an "SXJ". I also bet Evolv is working on a new chip they they'll tey to release around the same time to compete.... Or I hope. Might just hold off until then with my current gear.

 

[Technonut]

I'm really excited for the SX350j... I bet YiHi will release another SX mod.. Maybe an "SXJ". I also bet Evolv is working on a new chip they they'll tey to release around the same time to compete.... Or I hope. Might just hold off until then with my current gear.

They are in March.. It's called the SXmini M Class... It should still be under $200.00.

 

[snow blind]

They are in March.. It's called the SXmini M Class... It should still be under $200.00.

Oh cool.... Just googled it. They have it on the Sxmini site... Looks identical. I was hoping they'd do a dual 18650 mod to allow for the full wattage of the 350 chip. I'm sure something... Likely a non "mini" model is in the works.

 

[snow blind]

Hmm. Now that I think I'm going to wait until March-April (whenever the new round of boxes come out post Chinese New Year) I might just grab a Sigelei 150watt box to hold me over until then. I don't need anywhere near the 150 watts... But the dual 18650s and SX chip can't be beat for $90.

What do you guys think? Decent solution for a interm dual 18650 box until I pickup w high end device this spring?

 

[caged]

I've had the SXmini since November... I have tested the device under load with a Smok Omnitester, and find the SX350 Mini to be incredibly accurate. I mean just about whatever voltage output is shown on the SXmini's display is what is shown on the Omnitester. This level of accuracy has been confirmed in at least one other review. The resistance reading as well. When pulling the battery, whatever the display is showing is what my XTAR VP1 reads when the battery is inserted, within a couple of decimal points.

I find the SXmini to be consistent in power output all the way down to the 3.3v cut-off.. No surprises with reduced power as the battery drains. PBusardo just released a short teaser vid of the SXmini, and should have the full review (with his famous scope readings) soon. I'm certain he will be blown-away by the performance.

EDIT: One of the things I don't like about my ProVari is that the device will trip the cut-off under load while vaping, even though there is some battery life left. I can watch the SXmini's battery voltage / sag reading dip below 3.3v under load. It only cuts-off when the battery's actual resting voltage is 3.3v.. VERY sweet.

I have been vaping for over 4 years now, and demand accuracy and consistency in my regulated devices. Hell, I was around when the very first production regulated devices came out. Personally, I wouldn't own ANY of the other devices currently coming out of China except for the SXmini, and have absolutely no buyer's remorse at the $189.99 price.

I am a ProVape fan, and have placed my purchase of the P3 on the backburner since owning the SXmini if that tells you anything. I've also owned Evolv DNA 20 /30 devices, but wasn't impressed with the lack of step-down. The DNA 40 takes care of that, but I still find the SXmini to be more feature-rich, except for the lack of temp-protection. That will be taken care of in March when the SX350J is released. I'm REALLY looking forward to it.

Thanks. I was really just curious for the SX350J chip. After experiencing temp control, I don't think I could ever go back to units that can't keep temps under control.

Options are always good.

 

[Nautilusfan]

I have owned a MHM SX-350 100 Watt Box Mod - Advanced Personal Vaporizer | Mile High Mods for about a month. Love the sx350 chip!! One of the most durable and well built mods on the market today! It is large but for me not a big deal. So to speak I too would love a temp regulated yihi chip. However I do want better battery life than a single 18650 can provide.

 

[snow blind]

I have owned a MHM SX-350 100 Watt Box Mod - Advanced Personal Vaporizer | Mile High Mods for about a month. Love the sx350 chip!! One of the most durable and well built mods on the market today! It is large but for me not a big deal. So to speak I too would love a temp regulated yihi chip. However I do want better battery life than a single 18650 can provide.

Same. I need (2) 18650s or at least 4,000 mAh. I just ordered a Sigelei 150 watt to hold me over until spring when (hopefully) all the new temp control boards/boxes are released.

 

[Nautilusfan]

My ideal tf mod would be a MHM single 26650, sx350J chipset and the form factor of a sx mini or Vapedroid don't care what it weighs but size is important!

 

[alistairs]

Hmm. Now that I think I'm going to wait until March-April (whenever the new round of boxes come out post Chinese New Year) I might just grab a Sigelei 150watt box to hold me over until then. I don't need anywhere near the 150 watts... But the dual 18650s and SX chip can't be beat for $90.

What do you guys think? Decent solution for a interm dual 18650 box until I pickup w high end device this spring?

Another option might be the dual 18650 Hana Modz V4d available now. Haven't tried it yet, but watching it closely.

I agree there will be more great mods coming in spring ... but ... by then there will be more new mods coming in summer ...

 

[snow blind]

Another option might be the dual 18650 Hana Modz V4d available now. Haven't tried it yet, but watching it closely.

I agree there will be more great mods coming in spring ... but ... by then there will be more new mods coming in summer ...

That's always the problem with tech items isn't it?! So frustrating. Well for now I should be ok with a few iStick 50 watt boxes and the Sig 150 watt. Really curious to see where the temp control tech goes and how it improves. Because it def needs some work going on the DNA 40.

 

[Nautilusfan]

The DNA 40 has been a disappointment I'm hoping evolve will get things worked out! I must commend them for the great CS they have provided trying to resolve their issues though. Yihi should have learned a few things from them. We shall see. Looks from the specs on the J chip you will still be using NI wire for temp control. Some have complained about having to use it. Titanium is an option. Wish some one would produce a chip calibrated for titanium.

 

[snow blind]

The DNA 40 has been a disappointment I'm hoping evolve will get things worked out! I must commend them for the great CS they have provided trying to resolve their issues though. Yihi should have learned a few things from them. We shall see. Looks from the specs on the J chip you will still be using NI wire for temp control. Some have complained about having to use it. Titanium is an option. Wish some one would produce a chip calibrated for titanium.

Agreed. Hopefully someone will make a temp board that gives users options of wire material. NI200, titanium, SS... Etc.

 

[Nautilusfan]

Agreed. Hopefully someone will make a temp board that gives users options of wire material. NI200, titanium, SS... Etc.

Exxxxaaacccttly!!

 

[Croak]

Agreed. Hopefully someone will make a temp board that gives users options of wire material. NI200, titanium, SS... Etc.

It's just one more lookup table for the extra functionality, the UI for selecting it could be a problem, and if the user chose incorrectly that's another can of worms.

The Yihi would be easier to code from a UI standpoint, but I still can't think of a way to safeguard somebody who is using one wire type but selecting the other.

 

[WoWwYnAtoR]

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but do you find a difference in battery performance between the DNA 40 and the SX350? More specifically, many mods have significantly worse performance when the battery reaches 3.7 volts (including the YiHi chip in y Sigelei 20W), so by battery performance I mean do you notice a difference between the two when the batteries are below 3.7 volts. If you could tell me what kind of wattage you typically vape at, that would be helpful as well.

Probably shouldn't discharge your batteries too much furthur inorder for them to retain their maximum possible performance anyway.

Ah, VapinArt is great! I've been looking at the Karbon Mods DNA 40. Very cool little box... id probably have gotten that if it were a replaceable 18650... or even 26650. I'm still not sold on the LiPo's... i know i should be but i've got too many damn batteries id like to use lol.

LiPo's are a totaly different animal. The little 2s batteries that are in most APV's have a nominal voltage of 7.4!!! This means that your chip is prettymuch only going to have to step-down or "buck" the voltage, thus seriously increasing your battery life!

 

[snow blind]

Probably shouldn't discharge your batteries too much furthur inorder for them to retain their maximum possible performance anyway.




LiPo's are a totaly different animal. The little 2s batteries that are in most APV's have a nominal voltage of 7.4!!! This means that your chip is prettymuch only going to have to step-down or "buck" the voltage, thus seriously increasing your battery life!

Oh really!? That's interesting... that's why i see those modders who've used LiPo's talk of multi day all day use... next two years and i'm sure that's where 90% of gaping will be.

 

[Fictitious Character]

Having just picked up The Mile High Mods I can say it is a sweet mod and I don't see it as essentially being a Hana enclosure as it is built rock solid with super clean internals. Everything about it is high end imo. The size is larger and that may be an issue for some, but to me it feels perfect in my hand.

I have kind of given up on the dna 40 for the time being. I figure they need more time and more ppl to volunteer to pay to be the beta testers before the chip is really ready for the masses. The SX350J is one that I have my eye on and hope yihi has better luck with their temp control chip than evolve has been having.

I see that some smaller mod makers are starting to use lipo batts more, will be interesting to see the progression of this years vape gear for sure.