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The Riva comes with a slightly larger battery than the eGo does, and generally it's at a lower price point... at least from what I've seen. Essentially, they're almost the same device. E-Liquid and Electronic Cigarette Shop - Category Listings has a pretty sweet sale going on the Rivas right now with a starter kit for under $30... I'd strongly consider that.
501 vs. 901 is a number related to the style threading the accessories have. As a guy that's pretty much exclusively used 501, I can't really give you any insight as to how the 901's perform, but I will say that at least from what I've seen that 510 parts are more readily available.
501 vs. 901 is a number related to the style threading the accessories have. As a guy that's pretty much exclusively used 501, I can't really give you any insight as to how the 901's perform, but I will say that at least from what I've seen that 510 parts are more readily available.
Ego and Riva are basically the same and performance wise you'd likely notice no difference.
The Riva comes with a 750mah battery and the Ego a 650mah. You might see a little longer time in between charges with the Riva but the rating is so close it's not worth comparing. You can get higher mah batteries for both but the basic kits come with 650 and 750.
The Riva has a soft rubbery type button and the Ego button is solid and has a harder feel...that's a preference thing.
IMO go for the one with the best price and that is usually the Riva. Some very good sales going on this time of year. I just picked up a kit earlier as a Christmas Present.
I've never used anything with a 901 connector so I can't vouch for the difference if any. From what I remember reading the 510 gives warmer draw but I could be wrong. It's easier to find things compatible with 510 but that can be taken care of with a cheap adapter.
The Riva comes with a 750mah battery and the Ego a 650mah. You might see a little longer time in between charges with the Riva but the rating is so close it's not worth comparing. You can get higher mah batteries for both but the basic kits come with 650 and 750.
The Riva has a soft rubbery type button and the Ego button is solid and has a harder feel...that's a preference thing.
IMO go for the one with the best price and that is usually the Riva. Some very good sales going on this time of year. I just picked up a kit earlier as a Christmas Present.
I've never used anything with a 901 connector so I can't vouch for the difference if any. From what I remember reading the 510 gives warmer draw but I could be wrong. It's easier to find things compatible with 510 but that can be taken care of with a cheap adapter.
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Hi Canes, can't add much more than the previous guys other than a basic rule for battery charge. The rule is, you will basically get 1hr of battery life for every 100mah of battery size. So;
eGo 650mah = 6.5hrs
Riva 750mah = 7.5hrs
eGo 900mah = 9hrs
etc, etc.
Naturally, this will vary depending on how often you are using it but it's pretty close to being right.
eGo 650mah = 6.5hrs
Riva 750mah = 7.5hrs
eGo 900mah = 9hrs
etc, etc.
Naturally, this will vary depending on how often you are using it but it's pretty close to being right.
Hi canes, I used a DES 901 for my first 6 months and then switched to a Riva 510. There is a difference between the 901 and the 510, but it's pretty slight. The 901 runs a bit cooler and provides more flavor and less vapor than the 510. When I bought my Riva they didn't offer it in a 901 version, if they had, I might have preferred to stay with the 901.
I have several of both eGo's & RIVa's. . .I find virtually no difference between the two, but I use XL cartomizers. The button and the color is about it. They both use the same battery. RIVa just used a different way of calculating the battery power and that's how they came up with 750 mAh rather than 650 mAh. In usage I find no difference in the time the batteries last. I happen to prefer the RIVa button over the eGo, but my vaping experience using either is identical. I also have RIVa 901, use is with 808 cartos. But, when I put my converter on and use the 510 XL cartos there's no difference between it and my 510 eGo's or RIVa's. The RIVa 901 has a shorter cone. Reason for this is it was designed for using V4L KR808D-1 cartos. The longer cone only leaves approx 1/2 in of this carto extending past the cone. With the shorter cone more of the carto extends past the cone. I can't offer an informed opinion of any of these units using the atty/cart's that come with them because I don't use atty's. Also, can't help you much with how these would compare to a Pen style PV. I've read the Pen's have greater liquid storage and are true 3.7v. Both of which would be a different experience than using a regular cart/atty on the eGo class PV's. The eGo class with XL carto probably comes close to Pen PV in liquid capacity, and longer batt run time. But, the eGo class batts are regulated to 3.1/3.2v output. This is what I THINK the differences would be. . .having never even held a Pen Style PV in my hand.
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Welcome canes52, I have been thinking on the same lines as you are. I was about to ask the same question, but won't have to now. I'll just watch and see what answers you get. I'm leaning towards the riva 901 so far mainly because I am using a 901 and would already have some attys.
I picked up a Riva, and threw in an ego passthru. Win in my book!
The big difference I've noticed, is my Riva has a cut-off -- meaning if I hold the button down for "too long" it cuts off automatically. I don't like this at all. I haven't noticed it yet with my ego battery... It's not a huge deal, but when I'm relaxing and vaping, it's kind of annoying to let go of the button and press it again. But the Ego PT conveniently unplugs from the computer and a cap goes over the plug, so you can connect it just like a normal battery and go. Probably the coolest PT I've ever seen. And an indicator light that tells you when it's completely charged. I dig it.
The big difference I've noticed, is my Riva has a cut-off -- meaning if I hold the button down for "too long" it cuts off automatically. I don't like this at all. I haven't noticed it yet with my ego battery... It's not a huge deal, but when I'm relaxing and vaping, it's kind of annoying to let go of the button and press it again. But the Ego PT conveniently unplugs from the computer and a cap goes over the plug, so you can connect it just like a normal battery and go. Probably the coolest PT I've ever seen. And an indicator light that tells you when it's completely charged. I dig it.
now when you quote the amount of hours, is that say for example 9 hours it will last as soon as it us unplugged, or 9 hours of actually pressing the button?
can you please explain what a pt is? thanks
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That would be 9 hours of actual use, but YMMV. Personally, that's kind of low-balling it for me. I have a 900mah eGo and it'll last me an entire work day from 5AM til I go to bed at around 9 or 10PM without being completely drained.
When you hold your mouse over a word that is underlined it tells you -- PT = pass-thru. It can connect to your usb, or you can buy a car adapter. Basically, it plugs into a USB port, and instead of using a battery from your kit, it gets it's power from the computer, charging up the internal battery, and letting you vape away. The Ego pass-thru allows you to unplug from the computer and use it like a normal battery too. These are $20 with the coupon code from Liberty-Flights, and well worth it in my opinion!
Not knowing your previous "smoking" habits which probably relates to your current "vapping" habit, how many "cigs" would this be the equivalent of?
I have a blucig which I like very much, but would also be interested in getting an additional one if I could get NINE hours of vapping out of it between charges ! !
I was smoking a pack and a half to two packs a day. I'm also a pretty heavy vaper, all things considered. Sometimes it seems like my PV is just plastered to my mouth constantly. There is no way that I can tell exactly how many analogs that would be. I wouldn't even want to compare it. All that matters is that I'm a very happy vaper and among the ranks of ex-smokers.
Thank you very much. I smoked about the same and I would be very interested in a 900mah eGo if I could go an entire day without charging my battery. Excellent. Thanks again.
+1 for the eGo passthrough! Fantastic, just as Adeline describes.
Most batteries have some sort of a cut off. This prevents the atty from being blown in case it's accidentally activated in your purse or pocket. It can also save you from being badly burned by the atomizer.
I'll make this quick because I've been on here too long now and I seriously need to get to sleep.
If the Riva is like any standard 510 battery it is regulated somewhere between 3.1v and 3.2v. That's why the 510 atty has a resistance of about 2.3 ohms, because it's being fed less power so it has to be more efficient in how it uses the power. Where as DSE901 and KR808D-1 batteries run at a pretty consistent 3.7v (the pseudo industry standard). And as a result they have a resistance of about 3.1 ohms to match the higher power batteries. Now think of the attys like light bulbs, a 60 watt bulb burns less brightly than a 100 watt bulb. When you use a 510 atty on a 510 style battery the bridge in the atty will glow at about 4.27 watts. When you use a 901 atty or KR808D-1 carto on a DES901 or KR808D-1 battery the bridge of the atty will glow at about 4.42 watts (pretty close to the wattage of a 510 atty on a 510 battery, I'm going to bet that's another pseudo industry standard). Now on the other hand, when you use a 901 atty or KR808D-1 carto on a 510 style battery the bridge in the atty will glow at about 3.3 watts. Less wattage means less heat which means less vapor and possibly less TH (taking into consideration that TH is not just nicotine level, but also vapor temp), but possibly more flavor because it isn't being burnt off by the heat of the atty.
Another little tip is that the real secret to the success of the 510 atty is that it is unintentionally one of the original LR attys when used at a true 3.7v versus the 3.1v or 3.2v of a 510 battery. When people started experimenting with them on true 3.7v mods they started vaping at at 5.7 watts which meant much much more vapor, much much more TH, and less flavor.
My current personal preference is 510 attys on 510 batteries and 901/KR808s attys/cartos on DSE901 or KR808 batteries. Gives me good vapor, good flavor, and medium TH. But as always, your mileage my vary ...
LOL, so much for keeping it quick, sleep now.
If the Riva is like any standard 510 battery it is regulated somewhere between 3.1v and 3.2v. That's why the 510 atty has a resistance of about 2.3 ohms, because it's being fed less power so it has to be more efficient in how it uses the power. Where as DSE901 and KR808D-1 batteries run at a pretty consistent 3.7v (the pseudo industry standard). And as a result they have a resistance of about 3.1 ohms to match the higher power batteries. Now think of the attys like light bulbs, a 60 watt bulb burns less brightly than a 100 watt bulb. When you use a 510 atty on a 510 style battery the bridge in the atty will glow at about 4.27 watts. When you use a 901 atty or KR808D-1 carto on a DES901 or KR808D-1 battery the bridge of the atty will glow at about 4.42 watts (pretty close to the wattage of a 510 atty on a 510 battery, I'm going to bet that's another pseudo industry standard). Now on the other hand, when you use a 901 atty or KR808D-1 carto on a 510 style battery the bridge in the atty will glow at about 3.3 watts. Less wattage means less heat which means less vapor and possibly less TH (taking into consideration that TH is not just nicotine level, but also vapor temp), but possibly more flavor because it isn't being burnt off by the heat of the atty.
Another little tip is that the real secret to the success of the 510 atty is that it is unintentionally one of the original LR attys when used at a true 3.7v versus the 3.1v or 3.2v of a 510 battery. When people started experimenting with them on true 3.7v mods they started vaping at at 5.7 watts which meant much much more vapor, much much more TH, and less flavor.
My current personal preference is 510 attys on 510 batteries and 901/KR808s attys/cartos on DSE901 or KR808 batteries. Gives me good vapor, good flavor, and medium TH. But as always, your mileage my vary ...
LOL, so much for keeping it quick, sleep now.
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I just ordered a Riva 510 from LF. I've been eyeballing them for awhile, and when I finally went on to order tonight I noticed they have a 'Special Edition" steel version in. It was only a few bucks more, so I went ahead and got it. Does anybody know exactly what the difference is? The description sounds like it has Chrome hardware instead of the gold, idk if that's the only difference or not.
It will be significantly better than the blucig, will most likely charge quicker as well.
Probably. If the battery is the same size, I'd say the color is the only diff.
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