What justification do the government have?

[LewisP]

Hey guys,

I'm from the UK and I've been reading about up the regulation debate.

What claims are they actually making to justify a ban or strict regulations?

From what I can tell, they're claiming it's a tobacco product - Is that really the only ammo they have?

 

[suprtrkr]

You mean in the US? Or across the pond? I don't know what's up over there. Here in the States, it is quite routine to make it up out of thin air.

 

[BrotherBob]

Folks over here get confused about politics/special interests and facts.

 

[djsvapour]

The justification is very little. "They" don't like vaping...
It's not necessarily being claimed as a tobacco (smoking) product, it's being regulated in legislation that covers all sorts. It shouldn't be in a tobacco products bill, full stop.
Alternatives to smoking tobacco should be treated independently, of course.

 

[Completely Average]

They have plenty of justification, they just don't want you to know what that justification actually is.

If you want to know, look up how much money your government makes on tobacco taxes. I believe they are raking in close to £12.5 billion per year.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

Truth is most if not all of the studies on ecigs are flawed since there is no standards when it comes to testing, so any laws/regulations made on ecigs may be based on complete utter crap.

I'd really love for a proper study done on them, one that involves someone who actually vapes and not smoking machines and randomly cranking up voltages to 12v+ on a 1.8ohm coil and setting the smoking machine to basically do a continuous hit burning the liquid instead of converting it to a aerosol >.>

 

[MrPlink]

justification in the US is easy.

Necessary and proper clause of the constitution, as well as the commerce clause.

On the state level it would start with the 10th Amendment and then come down to state constitutions.

 

[opticruby]

Hello @LewisP. I'm from the UK also, Birmingham. The whole regulations thing seems like madness to me also.

 

[daviedog]

Just downloaded Fl state & U S Constitution, vaping not mentioned.

TAXES, Hail yes..

 

[stevegmu]

Who? The UK, the US government or individual states? I'm yet to hear of any bans. Arkansas was hit with strict regulations regarding sales recently, however...

 

[BackDoc]

First, its about Money..........After that its about Money, then it comes down to Money

 

[djsvapour]

Just downloaded Fl state & U S Constitution, vaping not mentioned.

We're talking about the UK, Europe and 500 million people. Governments are required to enact the TPD. It more or less kills off vaping. It's the interpretation that counts. Vaping could be banned by mid 2016. 100% sure on that.

 

[stevegmu]

The other governments don't really have to adopt such measures. There is no enforcement. I think many will, however, but those not so keen on foreign rule won't...