Hi all I'm new to this forum so hope this question has not been asked already. im new to the vape seen and just purchased my first one the cool fire lv. Just some help needed on juice, I was told that I have to use different juice in this than you would in a pen type e cig? Due to the way it burns or something but not sure if this is true
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It really all depends on your setup. If you are using a subohm tank or build in an rta etc (coil resistance of <1) then you will want to use a lower nic level. When subohming more liquid gets vaporized so you intake more of the nicotine than you would if you were using higher resistance tank on an ego battery or pen style cig-a-like.
That can cause the hit to be far more harsh/throat burn than normal and also make ya get nic sick. Most of us that subohm use juice with 6mg or less nicotine, I opt to use 3mg myself. High vg also, as opposed to more pg, vg gives ya the clouds lol.
You don't have to use a different 'kind', there is ejuice than there's ejuice lol, just keep the nic level down if you are doing the subohm thing.
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It really all depends on your setup. If you are using a subohm tank or build in an rta etc (coil resistance of <1) then you will want to use a lower nic level. When subohming more liquid gets vaporized so you intake more of the nicotine than you would if you were using higher resistance tank on an ego battery or pen style cig-a-like.
That can cause the hit to be far more harsh/throat burn than normal and also make ya get nic sick. Most of us that subohm use juice with 6mg or less nicotine, I opt to use 3mg myself. High vg also, as opposed to more pg, vg gives ya the clouds lol.
You don't have to use a different 'kind', there is ejuice than there's ejuice lol, just keep the nic level down if you are doing the subohm thing.
Welcome again!
-Manny-
Wow, an Innokin Coolfire IV , what an outstanding mod , congrats . You can use most any tank you feel like using with that one , depends what tank and coil head you decide to use .
If your just starting out it's tough to beat the Aspire Nautilus with the BVC heads . The heads come in 5 packs and each one can last from a week to a month at times depending how much you vape and at what wattages.
The BVC heads are best at wattages up to 15 watts in my experience , i vape them around 12 watts myself.
If your just starting out it's tough to beat the Aspire Nautilus with the BVC heads . The heads come in 5 packs and each one can last from a week to a month at times depending how much you vape and at what wattages.
The BVC heads are best at wattages up to 15 watts in my experience , i vape them around 12 watts myself.
Oh i forgot to address what liquid , the answer is any liquid that is used in any type of e cigarette is perfectly fine .
The only thing to worry about is the PG/VG ratio because if going with an 80/20 VG/PG ratio in the juice you order that is a little too thick to allow good wicking in a Nautilus tank.
Ratio's of 50/50 and even 70/30 VG/PG work but thats the limit for the Nautilus to work at it's best .
The only thing to worry about is the PG/VG ratio because if going with an 80/20 VG/PG ratio in the juice you order that is a little too thick to allow good wicking in a Nautilus tank.
Ratio's of 50/50 and even 70/30 VG/PG work but thats the limit for the Nautilus to work at it's best .
It has come with the innokin isub g, so will use that first then try a few different ones out.
Oh OK , didn't know that , your in good shape then as the iSub G can wick high VG juice and it's an easy swappable coil head .
Just pick your juice and your good to go .
I use the same type of juice in all my e-cigs.
The high power tanks can wick high VG liquid much better. It also makes sense that high PG ratio will be harsher at high power and certain tanks will not like really thin liquid.
So, yes. However it does kind of frustrate me when vendors (in particular) say "you can't use your normal liquid" because often that just not 100% honest. If you are already using 50/50 then you are good to go. It's only really 70 or 80% PG that is troublesome in these tanks, but very few decent liquids these days are 70 or 80% PG.
One vape convention seller actually told somebody you couldn't use PG liquid at all in a dripper. Last time I dripped 100% PG it was fine. I can't remember seeing any vapor, but that's kind of different.
The high power tanks can wick high VG liquid much better. It also makes sense that high PG ratio will be harsher at high power and certain tanks will not like really thin liquid.
So, yes. However it does kind of frustrate me when vendors (in particular) say "you can't use your normal liquid" because often that just not 100% honest. If you are already using 50/50 then you are good to go. It's only really 70 or 80% PG that is troublesome in these tanks, but very few decent liquids these days are 70 or 80% PG.
One vape convention seller actually told somebody you couldn't use PG liquid at all in a dripper. Last time I dripped 100% PG it was fine. I can't remember seeing any vapor, but that's kind of different.
Hi Steve. I went from pen style to CoolFire4 also. It's a very good mod. Mine did not come with a tank so I continued using the EVOD tanks with the adapter that came with the CF4. That's what I used initially and still do mainly because I like to change flavors frequently. I have vaped from 30/70 to 70/30 with no problems, even with having left devices in car with temp in teens. Main thing is if you notice hits getting dry to adjust your vaping style to fit the setup and situation. Can mean allowing more time between hits, dropping power, shortening or pulsing firing time, even taking a primer puff between hits. One habit I had when pulsing was to trigger 3 times in succession too quickly. Wasn't until the next hit when nothing happened that I realized previous one had powered off the CF4...
The juice reference is likely directed at nic levels when one changes from mouth to lung to direct lung hits.
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I am guessing Steve has no clue what the above terms mean lol, pulsing , primer puffs and an Evod tank are as baffling to a newbie as "good judgment" is to someone like Mrs Clinton.
My daughter and her boyfriend got me a CoolFire IV for Christmas. They ordered the CoolFire online, and went to our local vape shop to get a couple of bottles of eliquid to go with the new mod. While they were at the vape shop, they were discussing the CoolFire IV with the clerk, and he advised them to get a lower nicotine level for me with the CoolFire. I think the clerk may have been assuming that I was going to sub-ohm, since that seems to be all the rage right now, and the CoolFire IV can use a .50 coil. Anyway, they got me a couple of bottles of 6 mg eliquid, instead of my usual 12. Playing around with my new toy and going between the 6 mg eliquid they got me and the 12 mg that I had on hand, I found that the 6 mg is doing OK, and have been sticking with that.
At that time, I was using Evod Glass tanks, going between 1.8 and 2.2 ohm Kanger single coils and 50/50 pg/vg and 30 pg/70 vg, depending on which vendor I was buying from. No problems with the CoolFire IV - I just had to remember that it is variable wattage. Last month I treated myself to a Nautilus Mini, since my daughter really loves the one she got for herself. Wow, what a difference in the coils. I usually only get a few days out of the Kanger coils, maybe a week if I am lucky, depending on the eliquid I am using. I got a full 2 weeks out of the 1.8 ohm Nautilus coil that came preinstalled, and I am in my second week of using the 1.6 ohm that came as a spare.
Have fun with your CoolFire IV. If you are going to sub-ohm, definitely watch your nicotine level. Keep an eye on how different pg/vg ratios and nicotine levels work for you with the equipment you have. Don't be afraid to experiment a little, but please do stay within the parameters given in your user manual for safety's sake.
At that time, I was using Evod Glass tanks, going between 1.8 and 2.2 ohm Kanger single coils and 50/50 pg/vg and 30 pg/70 vg, depending on which vendor I was buying from. No problems with the CoolFire IV - I just had to remember that it is variable wattage. Last month I treated myself to a Nautilus Mini, since my daughter really loves the one she got for herself. Wow, what a difference in the coils. I usually only get a few days out of the Kanger coils, maybe a week if I am lucky, depending on the eliquid I am using. I got a full 2 weeks out of the 1.8 ohm Nautilus coil that came preinstalled, and I am in my second week of using the 1.6 ohm that came as a spare.
Have fun with your CoolFire IV. If you are going to sub-ohm, definitely watch your nicotine level. Keep an eye on how different pg/vg ratios and nicotine levels work for you with the equipment you have. Don't be afraid to experiment a little, but please do stay within the parameters given in your user manual for safety's sake.
You’re right Herb. It was end of January when I made the jump from pen to mod that Steve is making now and one month from when I quit cigs. It was also one of the rougher spots along my vaping path mainly due to being overwhelmed. Steve’s question was about juice and I veered off into dry-hit land with terminology he probably is not yet familiar with. My bad. Trying to be helpful but not so wise if it makes vaping appear more complex than it already does at that time.
For Steve, would add one thing. Don’t be in a hurry to get rid of your pens and tanks. You may find them useful later on.
Welcome and glad you joined.
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I'm back again all lol. Just received the mod what's the best volt/watt to start with? I understand it's depends on the personal preference but could do with a starting point really
Priming a Coil
All new cotton coils have to be primed well with juice. If they are not primed well the cotton will burn. Once the cotton is burned the burned taste doesn't go away.
To prime the coil, drop 5-8 drops of juice right inside the coil (sometimes less/more depending on the size of the coil head), another drop of juice in all the holes on the side of the coil. Put the coil in the base.
- If Bottom Filling (the isub G is bottom filled) - Fill the tank and then screw the base back onto the tank.
- If Top Filling (some tanks are top filled) - Screw the tank on the base and then top fill it.
Rule of Thumb
The rule of thumb for EVERY vape device you'll ever own is the same (when running in power or wattage/voltage mode). Turn your voltage/wattage down (start at around 10 watts), take a few hits, bump it up, couple more hits. Repeat until you find your "sweet spot". If it starts to taste funny, gets too hot or tastes burnt, back it down. Different flavors will have different sweet spots so you just have to experiment.
Actually i am much more guilty of doing this stuff than you are , i ALWAYS go way off track lol.
If a thread is about what battery to use i will come in out of nowhere and ask something like " can anyone confirm the average weight of the common carpet beetle " no joke , i'm serious , i mean i'm not even remotely close.
Even the cat below looks at me like :
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I start everything at 10.
I often stop at 11.
(only joking....)
I move on up to 12 then 14 and see how it is. Today, I stopped at 16.8. (Eleaf MTL)
If your tank is an iSub of some sort, you can truck on up to 20, 25 and keep checking.
Hi and welcome. That's a very nice mod, I'm sure it will work well for you. As has been said, what juice you use is very individualistic, and is also partly dependent on the tank and coil you have selected. I think you'll like the iSub G it came with, but if not, there are any number of other options. Let us know how you get along.
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