What the hell happened

[plant]

I decided to give China a fair shot:

Mod:

Made of some sort of alloy that is given a faux brushed stainless look and then clear coated over. Clear coat is uneven in places. Buttons rattle and feel plasticy, and when clicked make a hollow plastic sound, like flicking an empty solo cup with your finger. Gap on battery door is uneven. Chip seems to work fine. Overall decent mod for $90.

tank:

Made of stainless, airflow adjustment ring grinds a bit, works well enough.

What I have found though is that this is not my style of vaping. On the recommendation of a friend I put a dual 24/32 clapton coil in the griffin, which came out to 0.3 ohm. There is certainly a lot of vapor..........

I think I'm going to get a dicodes tube mod and a kayfun v4 and go back to a single coil at 15 watts. The grass isn't always greener....

Thanks everyone for the input.

 

[JMarca]

What I have found though is that this is not my style of vaping. On the recommendation of a friend I put a dual 24/32 clapton coil in the griffin, which came out to 0.3 ohm. There is certainly a lot of vapor..........

I think I'm going to get a dicodes tube mod and a kayfun v4 and go back to a single coil at 15 watts. The grass isn't always greener....

Thanks everyone for the input.

I don't like claptons in that tank either, although I highly regard it as my favorite RTA to date. There is plenty of space for that build but the wicking isn't as fast as other tanks partially due to the inner drum diameter.

That said you should experiment a bit, try a pair of SS coils around say .5 ohms around 45-50w. What's interesting about that range is I can do full lung inhales, and when I don't really feel like lung hits I can also do mouth to lung inhales and they work good as well.

It's all about finding your happy place.

 

[plant]

I noticed that. The bubbles seem to get stuck in between the holes and the glass. However I have not had any dryness or burning. I did do the "scottish roll" wick so I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

You're absolutely right about finding your happy place. I know what my happy place is, I just wanted to test the waters and see what I might be missing.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I noticed that. The bubbles seem to get stuck in between the holes and the glass. However I have not had any dryness or burning. I did do the "scottish roll" wick so I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

You're absolutely right about finding your happy place. I know what my happy place is, I just wanted to test the waters and see what I might be missing.

If you water and care for the grass properly, It's always greener, regardless of which side of the fence you are on.

Sounds like you had your mind made up before you purchased new gear.

With your experience, you had to know there would be a huge difference with a massive a mount of metal and .3 ohms.

Just like back in the day, expecting "plug-and-play perfect vape " isn't realistic. You need to understand the gear, and use/adjust accordingly.

There are infinitely more options today than 2 years ago.
Of you can't find gear that suits your vaping style today, then quite frankly, you aren't looking.

As far as the Chinese gear goes, there are tons of Chinese gear that will work, but you seem stuck on the box, so that's were China separates from guys like Zen who handmade mod bodies in a tiny shop.


As far as tanks go, the Chinese rule the industry.
It was pretty easy, with $200 tanks being offered from authentics.

 

[plant]

I had an open mind going into this at least as far as the tank was concerned. Honestly it's a good tank, it works well. Just a bit much with the current build. Seems to need 40 watts just to get itself going. I will play around with smaller builds.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I had an open mind going into this at least as far as the tank was concerned. Honestly it's a good tank, it works well. Just a bit much with the current build. Seems to need 40 watts just to get itself going. I will play around with smaller builds.

It's all in the build and the wick.

 

[Baditude]

But is it just me, or has China completely (re)taken over the industry? Back in like 2010-2011 that's all we had, but 2013-2014 seemed like a renaissance of Western superiority in the industry. Svoemesto, Mark Bugs, HoH, Hana, atmomixani, provape, etc etc.

Now it looks like the mod to have is a $50 triple battery monstrosity made out of stamped sheet steel topped with whatever $30 chinese designed/manufactured RTA performs the best on any given week.

China has been catching up with US and European manufacturers per quality at an affordable price. I used to frown on the lack of Chinese quality, lack of warranty and customer support. China is learning that many US consumers want those specific attributes when looking for new gear.

My nephew and nephew-in-law both recently bought the Wismec - Reuleaux Box Mod - Triple 18650. Which they both love. I've vaped with it, and its a mighty fine mod. I was surprised at how small it was considering it uses 3 18650 batteries. Designed in the US, but manufactured in China.

Where is all this high end stuff?
I'm not looking for some super exclusive $600 mod like those DNA 30s back in the day with wooden trim and all that.

If I could afford one, I'd get a Provari Radius. It's a new box mod made by Provape. It's only a 40 watt mod, but it will deliver its full power (unlike some mods which promise a certain wattage but in reality can't deliver). Part stainless steel and part polycarbonate, I'm pretty sure it will be as reliable and unbreakable as the original Provari's with the way Provape tests pre-production models. I own 3 Provari's, but rarely use them much any more due to their limited power and because my vaping style has changed. But for nearly 4 years a Provari was my daily driver.

I'm not sure what tank I'd use. I've been using a rebuildable dripper on an AltSmoke Silver Bullet mech exclusively for the last year. I think I'd seriously look into a Kabuki.
Anybody Using A Kabuki?

 

[crxess]

I had an open mind going into this at least as far as the tank was concerned. Honestly it's a good tank, it works well. Just a bit much with the current build. Seems to need 40 watts just to get itself going. I will play around with smaller builds.

Nope, you Had recommendations and decided to go along.
Now with disappointment from dissatisfaction brought on by those recommendations, you are getting rid of functional gear rather than adapting the gear for your Preferred Vape.

I Read a Switch from this setup to a Dicodes/Kayfun v4 as - I need to Spend more to buy a good Vape.

It does not work that way. The quality of the Vape is as much User as Equipment used.

Tank is simply a Liquid holder.
Coil can be built at higher ohms and less power applied.(watts)
Air Flow can be reduced for a more Tootle Draw.

I decided a few years ago, I would NOT purchase anything new until I could make what I owned work properly(for me) or know exactly why it would not.
Now I own many different Mods/RTA's/RDAs' and tootle gear. I get to enjoy using whatever I choose any time I desire a change.

Effort trumps spending

 

[crxess]

Anybody Using A Kabuki?

If I had a P3 and wanted a P3 threaded tank, possibly. However for a 510 tank that uses a Nautilus Coil, $90?
I just do not see a Performance related reason for purchasing.

Ultimately, it comes down to personal choice and satisfaction.

 

[Baditude]

If I had a P3 and wanted a P3 threaded tank, possibly. However for a 510 tank that uses a Nautilus Coil, $90?
I just do not see a Performance related reason for purchasing.

Ultimately, it comes down to personal choice and satisfaction.

All I can say is the majority of owners are raving about theirs. Plus, its US made and designed by Zen.

I own an authentic SvoëMesto Kayfun Lite Plus RTA which was about $120 new. For about a year it was my everyday tank on my Provari, but my vaping style has changed and now I use a RDA for the more open lung draw it provides. There may well be newer tanks which have a more open air draw that also do not leak, but I'm not aware of any.

 

[crxess]

All I can say is the majority of owners are raving about theirs. Plus, its US made and designed by Zen.

Which is why:
Ultimately, it comes down to personal choice and satisfaction.

After all, as long as it is properly built(where ever), A Tank simply holds liquid until the Atomizer Vaporizes it.
In the case of replacement coil head tanks, it is pretty much Air Flow and Aesthetics.
{with Air Flow max limited to Coil design}

* I happen to very much like Zens works and his persona

 

[Bad Ninja]

All I can say is the majority of owners are raving about theirs. Plus, its US made and designed by Zen.

I own an authentic SvoëMesto Kayfun Lite Plus RTA which was about $120 new. For about a year it was my everyday tank on my Provari, but my vaping style has changed and now I use a RDA for the more open lung draw it provides. There may well be newer tanks which have a more open draw that also do not leak, but I'm not aware of any.

The Bellus tank by Youde.
No leaks, airflow adjustable from Kayfun tightness to RDA flow, single or dual coil, excellent quality, authentics run about $30.
Supreme flavor. Excellent vape.

 

[ruet]

SS4s Stainless Steel - $159.00 : DNA Box Mods, by HANA MODZ

ON EDIT: I'm think I'm a little late to this party.