I ordered a Nebula V9 preorder from vapornine the other night when puresmoker was out of stock of everything. Now that puresmoker has some stock again and vapornine is having trouble getting their shipment in I am not sure what to do. Do you all think I should wait out the pre-order or get a refund and get a PeeWee starter kit from puresmoker ?
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You know when you're in the supermarket and your line is moving slower than the one next to you? It's rarely a good idea to switch lanes in my experience.
You're deciding between two different fruit. If I were you keep the V9 and if you really can't wait, order a pocket mini for the meantime.
See pure smoker doesn't take your money when they don't have stock and that seems to piss people off because they cant order when they go to the site. well they don't want to take the money if they don't have the product in case they cant get it. I don't have a good feeling about getting things through customs right now so if you want my honest opinion I would buy from both. I would get the PS stuff in case the other doesn't go through.
good luck man!
good luck man!
Personally if it looks like V9 is gonna be able to deliver I'd leave the order as is with them and order another from PS. I don't know anything about the PeeWee, but what I can recomend is the 901. Almost everyone likes and recomends them, I have 3 myself.
I read this forum and looked at older forum threads for two weeks before I purchased my first electronic vaporizer.
My first electronic vaporizer was a blue DSE901 from Phil at e-Smokey Treats - Electronic Cigarette's, The healthy alternative to traditional tobacco cigarette's. Phil is a little more expensive than some suppliers but he provides a 3 month warranty instead of 14 days, gives you two atomizers instead of just one and provides a phone number where you can call him which most suppliers do not. Like all suppliers, the kit comes with two batteries and a charger. The battery will last about 2-3 hours before needing recharged although some users report getting 4-5 hours but that has not been my experience. His 901 starter kit is $69.95 where some other suppliers will sell them for $49.95 or $59.95 but without the extra’s that Phil provides. I would consider the DSE901 a good first purchase and it is about the size of a regular 100 cigarette. (If you purchase from Phil at e-smokey-treats.com, when it asks for a coupon code, use esmoking101 and you should get 10% off.)
Many users like the classic penstyle 801 model which has a larger atomizer and cart and a typical battery charge life of about 4-5 hours. The draw is lighter, more like a straw due to having 4 holes in the atomizer and the bigger cart. The 801 is larger and looks more like a big pen instead of regular cigarette. You can also purchase a USB pass-through for both the 901 and 801, which allows you to plug into a usb port on your computer and not have to worry about changing batteries. You can then purchase a portable battery pack for the usb pass-through such as this one from Kennsington (Kensington - Portable Power Pack for Select Mobile Devices - Black - K38021) and make your usb power portable. Make sure the power pack is at least 1000mAh power output.
Most users want an e-vap to provide the “throat hit” that is most like a real cigarette (analog as we call them) as well as long battery life. IMO, the only way to get that is to purchase a manual e-vape that allows you to push a button and heat up the atomizer more before you inhale. The one that does that the best is the screwdriver (SD) from trog at: - The ScrewDriver - An electronic cigarette that simply works. It is more expensive but it just can’t be beat for long battery life and throat hit. And my experience with trog has been outstanding. I have emailed him many times with questions and he almost always responds any where from 10 minutes to an hour or so.
IMO, the only way you will enjoy vaping is if you buy e-liquid or e-juice to refill your carts instead of use the prefilled cartridges that come with the starter kits. Plus it is way more cost effective. My favorite liquid to date is the riskee and cola flavors from Puresmoker: PureSmoker.com - Your #1 Source For PV's, Parts, & Accessories!. My recommendation is to get a little higher nicotine (nic) strength because you can always dilute it with USP glycerin that you can get at a drug store for $5 or $6. I use 24mg nic strength. The highest is 36mg and there is also 18, 11, 6 and 0. I also thought I would like the tobacco flavors the best, but in most cases, IMO, they don’t taste that similar to real tobacco. I do know that some forum members love e-smokey treats tobacco flavor, however.
Hope this helps and good luck.
My first electronic vaporizer was a blue DSE901 from Phil at e-Smokey Treats - Electronic Cigarette's, The healthy alternative to traditional tobacco cigarette's. Phil is a little more expensive than some suppliers but he provides a 3 month warranty instead of 14 days, gives you two atomizers instead of just one and provides a phone number where you can call him which most suppliers do not. Like all suppliers, the kit comes with two batteries and a charger. The battery will last about 2-3 hours before needing recharged although some users report getting 4-5 hours but that has not been my experience. His 901 starter kit is $69.95 where some other suppliers will sell them for $49.95 or $59.95 but without the extra’s that Phil provides. I would consider the DSE901 a good first purchase and it is about the size of a regular 100 cigarette. (If you purchase from Phil at e-smokey-treats.com, when it asks for a coupon code, use esmoking101 and you should get 10% off.)
Many users like the classic penstyle 801 model which has a larger atomizer and cart and a typical battery charge life of about 4-5 hours. The draw is lighter, more like a straw due to having 4 holes in the atomizer and the bigger cart. The 801 is larger and looks more like a big pen instead of regular cigarette. You can also purchase a USB pass-through for both the 901 and 801, which allows you to plug into a usb port on your computer and not have to worry about changing batteries. You can then purchase a portable battery pack for the usb pass-through such as this one from Kennsington (Kensington - Portable Power Pack for Select Mobile Devices - Black - K38021) and make your usb power portable. Make sure the power pack is at least 1000mAh power output.
Most users want an e-vap to provide the “throat hit” that is most like a real cigarette (analog as we call them) as well as long battery life. IMO, the only way to get that is to purchase a manual e-vape that allows you to push a button and heat up the atomizer more before you inhale. The one that does that the best is the screwdriver (SD) from trog at: - The ScrewDriver - An electronic cigarette that simply works. It is more expensive but it just can’t be beat for long battery life and throat hit. And my experience with trog has been outstanding. I have emailed him many times with questions and he almost always responds any where from 10 minutes to an hour or so.
IMO, the only way you will enjoy vaping is if you buy e-liquid or e-juice to refill your carts instead of use the prefilled cartridges that come with the starter kits. Plus it is way more cost effective. My favorite liquid to date is the riskee and cola flavors from Puresmoker: PureSmoker.com - Your #1 Source For PV's, Parts, & Accessories!. My recommendation is to get a little higher nicotine (nic) strength because you can always dilute it with USP glycerin that you can get at a drug store for $5 or $6. I use 24mg nic strength. The highest is 36mg and there is also 18, 11, 6 and 0. I also thought I would like the tobacco flavors the best, but in most cases, IMO, they don’t taste that similar to real tobacco. I do know that some forum members love e-smokey treats tobacco flavor, however.
Hope this helps and good luck.
If you can afford it. Order from PS as well assuming they still have any stock. Parts die batteries wear out and you don't want to be in a situation after you quit analogs where you don't have enough parts to keep going.
The start up cost is pretty high on this habbit and it takes some for planning not to end up in a bad situation.
For example right now I'm down to one functional battery. The two that came with my original kit both started getting weaker and weaker but the final failure happened when the copper bit at the top of the battery came out of the tube and the wires broke. My USB passthru was great until it failed I'm not sure what happened at this time I suspect there is a problem with the switch I plan on disasembling it and seeing what happened when I get the chance. On the bright side I now have some parts to play with moding. Now I just gotta get a soldering set up and learn how to solder.
At this point I finally managed to get an order in with PS for a new Penstyle kit and USB passthru as well as 100ml of Riskee ;-) but this was after ordering a pair of Kissbox extendeds from Janty. This week has been rough so far waiting to see which gets here first (if ever) according to USPS the Janty shipment went from electronic notification to Arival at Unit in Austin which I hope means that the kits will be there when I get home. I'll have to see if the order is up to snuff since Janty has had some serious issues lately according to the boards and a friend of mine at work who's had no luck getting his product.
The Puresmoker order is still showing processing, which I understand PS hasn't been quite as fast since the move as they were in the old days still I know things go wrong and do to the supply chain issues I'm sure they get slammed with all the pent up demand when product does become available so I know it will get here eventually.
I guess my point in all this is that between the incredible demand for this product (suppliers were having problems with keeping stock even before the FDA took notice) and the current regulatory issues we Vaper will need to keep multiple channels for supplies open and be patient with these suppliers.
I suspect that eventually we'll have to start ordering this stuff direct from China since a single small package to a residence will be unlikely to recieve scrutiny while passing customs but in the mean time we need to support the suppliers since they are the going to need that support for the legal battles to come, so for now I'm willing to deal with some delays on parts and use the contingency plan of multi-sourcing of supplies accross multiple vendors.
The start up cost is pretty high on this habbit and it takes some for planning not to end up in a bad situation.
For example right now I'm down to one functional battery. The two that came with my original kit both started getting weaker and weaker but the final failure happened when the copper bit at the top of the battery came out of the tube and the wires broke. My USB passthru was great until it failed I'm not sure what happened at this time I suspect there is a problem with the switch I plan on disasembling it and seeing what happened when I get the chance. On the bright side I now have some parts to play with moding. Now I just gotta get a soldering set up and learn how to solder.
At this point I finally managed to get an order in with PS for a new Penstyle kit and USB passthru as well as 100ml of Riskee ;-) but this was after ordering a pair of Kissbox extendeds from Janty. This week has been rough so far waiting to see which gets here first (if ever) according to USPS the Janty shipment went from electronic notification to Arival at Unit in Austin which I hope means that the kits will be there when I get home. I'll have to see if the order is up to snuff since Janty has had some serious issues lately according to the boards and a friend of mine at work who's had no luck getting his product.
The Puresmoker order is still showing processing, which I understand PS hasn't been quite as fast since the move as they were in the old days still I know things go wrong and do to the supply chain issues I'm sure they get slammed with all the pent up demand when product does become available so I know it will get here eventually.
I guess my point in all this is that between the incredible demand for this product (suppliers were having problems with keeping stock even before the FDA took notice) and the current regulatory issues we Vaper will need to keep multiple channels for supplies open and be patient with these suppliers.
I suspect that eventually we'll have to start ordering this stuff direct from China since a single small package to a residence will be unlikely to recieve scrutiny while passing customs but in the mean time we need to support the suppliers since they are the going to need that support for the legal battles to come, so for now I'm willing to deal with some delays on parts and use the contingency plan of multi-sourcing of supplies accross multiple vendors.
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