What's A Poor Boy To Do?

[the_larch]

I converted a friend of mine about three weeks ago. Convinced her to get a 510 PCC kit from Cignot. Talked her through the ordering process and steered her in the right direction juice wise. I let her sample some of my Viking Vapor juices and got her on that path as well. All has been good. She ordered her some juices and loves them and has been preaching the PV gospel even louder than I have!

However there's been a setback...

She texted me about an hour and a half ago:

Do you have any spare atomizers, manual/auto batteries, or juices you are looking to sell?

I asked her if it was for her or for someone else. She replied that it is for her and that her batteries are having trouble holding charges. She is a chain vaper.

The dilemma that logically follows is that I cannot spare hardware. I told her to swing by and I would give her some sample sizes of various juices (there goes my next pif offer!) but I'm not sure what my next step is going to be when she gets here! I'm thinking of steering her towards ECF and explaining where to find the best suppliers with the best prices. I know that she is in a similar financial boat as I am (read: the low end of poverty) but perhaps she'll be able to find a way to make something work.

So my question is this: as someone of limited means what would be the best course of action to assist another with limited means? I'm afraid to send her here to PIF as I'm not sure that she would be able to contribute to the community while also seeking out her wants and needs. At the same time I feel sort of responsible since I was the one to initially get her started on vaping...

So... What would you recommend I do?

 

[Para]

I converted a friend of mine about three weeks ago. Convinced her to get a 510 PCC kit from Cignot. Talked her through the ordering process and steered her in the right direction juice wise. I let her sample some of my Viking Vapor juices and got her on that path as well. All has been good. She ordered her some juices and loves them and has been preaching the PV gospel even louder than I have!

However there's been a setback...

She texted me about an hour and a half ago:

Do you have any spare atomizers, manual/auto batteries, or juices you are looking to sell?

I asked her if it was for her or for someone else. She replied that it is for her and that her batteries are having trouble holding charges. She is a chain vaper.

The dilemma that logically follows is that I cannot spare hardware. I told her to swing by and I would give her some sample sizes of various juices (there goes my next pif offer!) but I'm not sure what my next step is going to be when she gets here! I'm thinking of steering her towards ECF and explaining where to find the best suppliers with the best prices. I know that she is in a similar financial boat as I am (read: the low end of poverty) but perhaps she'll be able to find a way to make something work.

So my question is this: as someone of limited means what would be the best course of action to assist another with limited means? I'm afraid to send her here to PIF as I'm not sure that she would be able to contribute to the community while also seeking out her wants and needs. At the same time I feel sort of responsible since I was the one to initially get her started on vaping...

So... What would you recommend I do?

Tell her you don't have any hardware to spare; unless you want to sponsor her new habit for the rest of her life

 

[r3dgh0s7]

yup, hopefully she can save the $5 bux a pack she is not using to smoke to buy vaping supplies

 

[bonniegirl]

Her battery dilemma is most certainly from lack of proper initial charge. The PCC kits do not have the capability to properly charge unless a wall charger is included.
She needs to charge the batteries 8 hours, vape 20 minutes and charge 1 hour more despite the charger lights color.

 

[the_larch]

yup, hopefully she can save the $5 bux a pack she is not using to smoke to buy vaping supplies

That's exactly what I want to tell her but I don't want to come off sounding like a jerk. I'll figure it out. She should be here in a few minutes.

 

[Enid]

Perhaps you can show her a few websites with the best prices on hardware, show her the deals thread, explain pif and keeping sample size bottles for filling to trade. Maybe you guys can place orders at the same time and split shipping. I'm a very giving person by nature, so I understand how conflicted you might feel, wanting to help but really unable to. Just use what you've learned in your month vaping and share that with her.
Good luck!

 

[HzG8rGrl]

Make sure she has cleaned the contacts. A q-tip with abit of alcohol swabbed around the threads of battery and atomizer along with proper charging should do the trick!
Let her know you are in the same boat as her and just can't afford to give away what you have and then give her links to sites with good prices! Be loving and caring and she will understand.

 

[keyzygirl]

Please realize that if you convert people they will need help,help her to find things at a good price and share what you have with her.Good luck to both of you.Its still cheaper than smoking.I hope you can help her.Lots of sales going on if you shop around.

 

[the_larch]

Make sure she has cleaned the contacts. A q-tip with abit of alcohol swabbed around the threads of battery and atomizer along with proper charging should do the trick!

I hadn't even THOUGHT of that! That's just something I do without thinking but I'm sure she doesn't... Thanks for the reminder!

 

[HzG8rGrl]

I hadn't even THOUGHT of that! That's just something I do without thinking but I'm sure she doesn't... Thanks for the reminder!

Chain vapors need to clean the threads more often than others! I do hope this helps.

 

[Vchick]

Congrats on getting her to convert to vaping! I'd just wanted to add, that if she has a computer, now would be a good time to get a pass thru, will also help on the batteries. Fortunately the 510 is a pretty universal model, I've picked up manual generic batts for $5.45 a month or so ago, cartomizers can also had be pretty inexpensively as well. You've done a good job of helping your friend, but now she has to step up her game if she wants to continue this, we can only do so much IMO! Also keep an eye on the co-ops in pif and also the classifieds. HTH Vicki

 

[jj2]

Auto batteries?
Liquid kills those babies so fast. I hope it's not the problem. Maybe it's time to build a mod.

And I know where you are coming from---limited income is the pits but you sound like me, if I can help, I'll die trying.
I really do have to get over that............

Good luck, I hope all goes well.

 

[firhill]

Tell her you don't have any hardware to spare; unless you want to sponsor her new habit for the rest of her life

That's exactly what I want to tell her but I don't want to come off sounding like a jerk. I'll figure it out. She should be here in a few minutes.

If you believe she will think you're being a jerk by introducing her to something that is both healthier and cheaper than cigarettes, maybe she's not the friend you thought she was.

Parallex's idea is spot on.

 

[the_larch]

and that's what I did. All is good. Thanks for the advice gang!

 

[The Big Chief]

Her battery dilemma is most certainly from lack of proper initial charge. The PCC kits do not have the capability to properly charge unless a wall charger is included.
She needs to charge the batteries 8 hours, vape 20 minutes and charge 1 hour more despite the charger lights color.

All that info was for nickel cadmium rechargables and such, not lithium ions. The info on the pamphlets is simply outdated. Lithium ions have no memory, so you dont have to fully charge, discharge, any of it...once its charged, its charged. Ive personally testsed this for the last few sets of bats, and it seems to hold true, including pcc's.

 

[HzG8rGrl]

All that info was for nickel cadmium rechargables and such, not lithium ions. The info on the pamphlets is simply outdated. Lithium ions have no memory, so you dont have to fully charge, discharge, any of it...once its charged, its charged. Ive personally testsed this for the last few sets of bats, and it seems to hold true, including pcc's.

Now Big Chief, you know us girls read the mauals and follow them to a T without fail. Kinda like the stop and ask for directions conversation-LOL. From what I read you are correct, but I wouldn't know for sure as I always do the charge, vape, charge thingy. When it doesn't work, I shoot an e-mail and say "Why yes, I did charge for 8, vape for 20 and charged for another hour!

 

[jj2]

Now Big Chief, you know us girls read the mauals and follow them to a T without fail. Kinda like the stop and ask for directions conversation-LOL. From what I read you are correct, but I wouldn't know for sure as I always do the charge, vape, charge thingy. When it doesn't work, I shoot an e-mail and say "Why yes, I did charge for 8, vape for 20 and charged for another hour!

Of course we always read every last word of those manuals: Right along with all those instructions on bottles and how to build cabinets.

 

[The Big Chief]

I know, I did too...but after reading the university professor put the legends to rest, I had to prove him wrong, and aint charged one right since...he was right. I also use pccs for 510...ive had 2 quirky out of 5..1 was just junk, 1 was ok for 2 weeks then turned into a battery drainer...so, it happens.

 

[Sainted_S]

Well, she did text asking if you had any to sell. Be honest with her, no you don't, but you can help her order the items from reputable cheap sites. Heck, perhaps you can even split the cost of shipping and the cost of items (for example, the 35.99 deal on 5 attys).

If that fails, remind her in a most gentle matter that in 3 wks of being analog free she has saved at least $80 and that's a conservative figure.

 

[jnnfrlsw]

One thing I have found with helping someone make the switch from regs to elect. is that the more I help them the more its expected. I love helping newbies along but don't you think if they had to pay for their own kits and juice that they would have a vested interest and try harder to make the switch work? If we keep carrying our newbie vapor friends I am not sure we are really helping them in the long run. If someone has been paying $5 a day for a pack of smokes they can afford their own basics. The last friend I helped with ecigs ran out of juice and called to tell me if I couldn't get HER more juice she would have to go back to analogs. I told her that it was her choice-if you have money for cigs,you have money for juice...just my .02