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[dmohn28]

Howdy all,

I recently learned about e-cigs. I have not bought anything yet, but I am very excited to try it out. I have a few questions.

1. How long do the batteries last in these things?

I am right now trying to decide between the blu cigs and the m402. From reading some of the posts, I know that the blu isn't all that liked around here. My problem is that I work in a factory 10 hours a day. I need something that I will be able to use all day long without having to recharge it.

2. Between the two, which is eaiser to refill?

I am planning on refilling the cartriges instead of just buying them.

3. Am I totally off base?

Is there another super mini that would be better?

I'm sorry if these questions have been asked before. I am just very excited to get started. I am hopeful that I will be able to give up smoking with these.

 

[davidgo9ers]

I haven't tried the Blu, but with the M402 if you are worried about battery life you can either get an M401 (which has longer batteries) or just get a couple extra batteries to change out during the day. The only difference between the 401 and 402 is battery size. With the 402 battery you end up with a unit about the size of a regular cig and with the M401 you end up with a 100mm cig. 2 fully charged 401 batteries would last most people a whole shift, while it could take 3 batteries with the 402.

On refilling, it only takes a little practice to be able to refill carts easily and quickly and it will save you alot of money. Plus carts aren't available in very many flavors but liquids come in every flavor imaginable. You may not think so now, but you'll probably end up wanting to try those flavors in the future.

I think the 401/402 is the best cigarette sized e-cig out there. If you end up shopping for one check out the suppliers forum for the best deal. I get mine from libertyecig.com, especially now when they have good deals and free cases.

 

[JustJulie]

The smaller the e-cig, the shorter the battery life. It's pretty much a fact of life.

If battery life is a big issue for you, then you basically have three choices:

1) Buy a "regular" e-cig and get several batteries. You can either charge them at home (which could be time-consuming if you're going through several batteries during the day and then have to spend your evening recharging--but you can buy a couple of rechargers to make the job go faster) or you can buy a model that has a case that allows you to recharge on the run. You can get a PCC (portable charging case) for the 510--I'm not sure about other models.

2) You can buy a "regular" e-cig along with a USB passthrough battery. If you don't have a computer to use it with, you can also purchase a portable battery pack. I have a Kensington battery pack that I plug my 510 with USB passthrough battery into. Looks kind of odd, but I can vape pretty much all day on a single charge. You can also buy a wall plug so that you can plug your USB passthrough battery into a wall outlet so you're tethered to the wall instead of a computer or battery pack.

3) You can buy a "mod" and get longer battery life without being tethered to USB connections/battery packs. You'll see all sorts of information about mods, the most popular being the the Screwdriver, the JantyStick, the Prodigy, the ZiMoshi, and the GG (in no particular order).

The mods almost uniformly require a larger upfront investment than a starter kit with a "regular" e-cig, but many folks find the longer battery life (and substantially cheaper batteries) make it worthwhile. Mods also tend to not look like a cigarette or a pen, and that can be somewhat disconcerting to those new to vaping.

 

[four2109]

I love my 401 over the 2 & 3, and the length isn't an issue. The batt life is worth it. Problem is, my, and I think all 40x batteries are controlled by a mic switch. The noise in a factory might very well drain your batteries unless you unscrewed them between uses. My 901 batteries do the same thing. Walked about a mile with charged units in my pocket last night. The 901 kicked on and overheated. The 401 was dead 20 minutes later. Unscrew them at work or get a manual switch. I just go for a Mod.

 

[wegster]

Howdy all,

I recently learned about e-cigs. I have not bought anything yet, but I am very excited to try it out. I have a few questions.

1. How long do the batteries last in these things?

I am right now trying to decide between the blu cigs and the m402. From reading some of the posts, I know that the blu isn't all that liked around here. My problem is that I work in a factory 10 hours a day. I need something that I will be able to use all day long without having to recharge it.

Depends on your usage. non-stop, no existing e-cig will last (that I can think of, most mods/other form factors included) 10 hours of non stop vaping.

The M series (or EVO, Pilot = same design/parts compatible/clones) does really well on battery life for it's size, though..much better than my 510 (aka Titan/Yeti/Dura-C) does.

You can also look at getting one with a PCC (charging case..like available for the 510), or just bringing along a spare battery.

2. Between the two, which is eaiser to refill?

I am planning on refilling the cartriges instead of just buying them.

Both the Blu carts and M series carts seem to be similar. I do not have a Blue, going by others experience here.

Note that before your battery runs out, you'll need to swap out your cartridge. Bring spares.

3. Am I totally off base?

Is there another super mini that would be better?

I'm sorry if these questions have been asked before. I am just very excited to get started. I am hopeful that I will be able to give up smoking with these.

I haven't tried the DSE103, but have it's 'cousin' (looks the same, may or may not be), an RN4081. The M series or EVO outperforms the one I've got, although the RN gives good enough vapor.

I feel like a 'pimp' lately, but if you want to just *try* an M series, Innovapor has a great single EVO deal for $35, here:
InnoVapor :: The Finest in Personal Vaporizers

and some coupon codes in the Suppliers Forum as well.

I still use my M/EVO nearly daily with my 510 and M201. You *might* also want to look at the M201 - it IS a penstyle, but auto battery, and long lasting, bigger carts. Or both

The 510 won't do well for mouth-hanging, as I'd only get the manual battery, and unless it's 'break for 10 puffs an hour, then back into the PCC,' battery life on it may be an issue, both otherwise the 510 is great.

 

[wv2win]

Julie's advice is spot on as usual. It is HIGHLY unlikely you could get more than 3 hours of "good" battery life out of any auto switch PV such as the M402, 901, etc. And the ones activated by noise can make them useless in a noisey enviornment. I would strongly suggest checking out the Janty Stick, Screwdriver, Prodigy or GG. An other advantage to these manual switch PV's is that the batteries cost $2 instead of $13-$20. And you will go through many batteries. So the larger up front cost is paid back in spades over time. And being able to heat the atomizer as long as you want is just plain better than the auto switch PV's with the battery cut off built in.

Note: the battery life between charges on the Prodigy and Screwdriver is 5-8 hours.

 

[dmohn28]

Please bear with me, but I have another possibly stupid question. Would a manual battery be better for me at work? I assume the manual battery is only active while the button is pushed?

While at work, I would only use it during my three breaks and lunch. On a normal day I get through my shift on 4 cigarettes.

Would a 510 with a manual battery do me any good? I know I can get a pcc for a 510, but I won't be able to order a pcc when I order the pv. I have to get a starter kit for both me and my wife.

I want to try to stay away from the pen styles to start. Tell me if I'm wrong, but my wife and I believe it will be easier to give up real cigarettes if the substitute is about the same size as a real cigarette.

 

[JustJulie]

Please bear with me, but I have another possibly stupid question. Would a manual battery be better for me at work? I assume the manual battery is only active while the button is pushed?

While at work, I would only use it during my three breaks and lunch. On a normal day I get through my shift on 4 cigarettes.

Would a 510 with a manual battery do me any good? I know I can get a pcc for a 510, but I won't be able to order a pcc when I order the pv. I have to get a starter kit for both me and my wife.

I want to try to stay away from the pen styles to start. Tell me if I'm wrong, but my wife and I believe it will be easier to give up real cigarettes if the substitute is about the same size as a real cigarette.

These are not stupid questions . . . not at all.

If you're basically smoking four cigarettes during your shift, I'm thinking a 510 might be a very nice solution indeed. You are correct--with a manual battery, the only time you're using the battery is when you're pushing the button. While a 510 battery won't last you a long while continuously vaping, my guess is you'd get pretty decent mileage vaping it during smoke breaks.

If you order directly from China, you can get some pretty good deals. I'm sure someone will post links. About the cheapest (and fastest) I've found for the 510 in the U.S. is www.widowsbeadwork.com. $50 for a starter kit with no s/h. Of course, you'd still want to buy some liquid at the same time. The biggest mistake a lot of folks make is buying the e-cig but waiting to buy liquid to see if they like it. To really give vaping a fair shake, you have to be able to top off your cartridges, especially with something like the 510 which is a bit of a liquid hog.

If you like the 510, you can start investing in some more accessories, like the passthrough batteries, etc. Be forewarned, though . . . if you're looking to buy for you AND your wife, invest in two starter sets. The 510 starter sets come with two batteries and two atomizers, so you might be tempted to share a single set, but it won't work well at all. You and your wife will be much happier with two separate sets. Promise.

As for whether it will be easier to give up analogs with a cigarette-looking device, that's hard to say. For me, my first e-cig was the original Dura (the 510 with an automatic battery). I personally think that the biggest factor in allowing me to give up the cigarettes wasn't really the size and shape of the e-cig, but, rather, the strength of the "hit" the e-cig delivered. Having said that, though, I do think the fact that the 510 was kind of sort of cigarette-like probably did help in the transition. However, I'm now at the point where I'd vape just about anything, regardless of look. It's all about function.

 

[JustJulie]

Hmmm . . . just saw this: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ovapor-25-free-priority-shipping-ecopure.html

While I think this is more designed for someone who is already vaping, it might be a nice way to get your feet wet. (The reason why I think it's more for someone who is already vaping but who wants to try out a 510 is that with only one battery, you can't really use it as your sole device--you'd be flat out of luck while the single battery was charging.)

I'm thinking, though, if you were able to buy four of those kits at $100 with free shipping, you'd be good to go. It'd cost the same as two $50 "traditional" starter kits," but you'd be getting some extra battery chargers, cartridges, and liquid.

Not a bad deal at all.

 

[dmohn28]

If you like the 510, you can start investing in some more accessories, like the passthrough batteries, etc. Be forewarned, though . . . if you're looking to buy for you AND your wife, invest in two starter sets. The 510 starter sets come with two batteries and two atomizers, so you might be tempted to share a single set, but it won't work well at all. You and your wife will be much happier with two separate sets. Promise.

We thought about sharing a kit, but I smoke about a pack a day, and she's right around 2. So I'm guessing sharing a kit would be torture on both of us.


Thanks for the advice everyone. I think I have decided on the 510 from innovapor.com. Not sure about my wife, but I have a feeling that she will want the evo.

I'm planning on ordering on friday. Can't wait.

Thanks again to everyone.

 

[JustJulie]

We thought about sharing a kit, but I smoke about a pack a day, and she's right around 2. So I'm guessing sharing a kit would be torture on both of us.

Yup. And possible grounds for a divorce.

Congrats on your choice. Be sure to report back!!!!!!!!

 

[DC2]

While at work, I would only use it during my three breaks and lunch. On a normal day I get through my shift on 4 cigarettes.

You are in about the same boat I'm in, as I smoke about 4 smokes per day as well.
I have the 510 with manual batteries, and would not hesitate to recommend it.

You should not have any problem getting through the day with one battery.
I have yet to have a battery not last me an entire day.

 

[Jim Davis]

I love my 401 over the 2 & 3, and the length isn't an issue. The batt life is worth it. Problem is, my, and I think all 40x batteries are controlled by a mic switch. The noise in a factory might very well drain your batteries unless you unscrewed them between uses. My 901 batteries do the same thing. Walked about a mile with charged units in my pocket last night. The 901 kicked on and overheated. The 401 was dead 20 minutes later. Unscrew them at work or get a manual switch. I just go for a Mod.

What type of 401 do you have? I have a few different 401's, and none of them are sound activated.

 

[emsmom]

Think your choice of the 510 is a wise one! I have both the Evo and the 510 and my guess is if the wife picks the Evo, she will be sneaking your 510. Don't get me wrong, the Evo is a great mini! I just think the 510 is better in vapor production and flavor. The Evo is however very sleek and a bit smaller than the 510. For your work environment, it sounds like the manual 510 would be wiser choice too. To be on the safe side, I would bring the extra battery along too. I am guessing that you would use in the car to and from work, so just the one battery would be pushing it with the 510. I vape quite a bit and one 510 battery will last almost half a day. I was able to quit analogs with the Evo, but the manual 510 really took vaping to the next level. As others have noted, be sure to pick up some liquid too, as the 510 is a bit of a juice hog. Enjoy and good luck!

 

[catholic83]

get a 510 joye-titan-yeti ect. and buy the pcc for it that will solve your issue.

 

[Bunni]

I feel like a 'pimp' lately, but if you want to just *try* an M series, Innovapor has a great single EVO deal for $35, here:
InnoVapor :: The Finest in Personal Vaporizers

and some coupon codes in the Suppliers Forum as well.

I still use my M/EVO nearly daily with my 510 and M201. You *might* also want to look at the M201 - it IS a penstyle, but auto battery, and long lasting, bigger carts. Or both

The 510 won't do well for mouth-hanging, as I'd only get the manual battery, and unless it's 'break for 10 puffs an hour, then back into the PCC,' battery life on it may be an issue, both otherwise the 510 is great.

I got my 510 from Innovapor too, and it's awesome! I'm getting 5 hours or more per battery, they arrive fully charged, and getting a starter set with two batteries means you can charge one while vaping on the other. They charge pretty quickly too. Innovapor probably has the best intro kits around for the best price, and they are awesome to deal with, fast shipping and great communication!

 

[catlvr]

Please bear with me, but I have another possibly stupid question. Would a manual battery be better for me at work? I assume the manual battery is only active while the button is pushed?

While at work, I would only use it during my three breaks and lunch. On a normal day I get through my shift on 4 cigarettes.

Would a 510 with a manual battery do me any good? I know I can get a pcc for a 510, but I won't be able to order a pcc when I order the pv. I have to get a starter kit for both me and my wife.

I want to try to stay away from the pen styles to start. Tell me if I'm wrong, but my wife and I believe it will be easier to give up real cigarettes if the substitute is about the same size as a real cigarette.

I think it would be perfect for you at work. I work 12 hr shifts and mine has been working out great. I just bring an extra battery, atty, some pre-filled carts and some cola juice to top off, my charger, and I'm good to go all day or night.

 

[dmohn28]

Howdy all,

I have definitely decided on a joye510 for myself. Unfortunately, due to a hole in my car's radiator, I can't order it yet.

We have however ordered a kit for my wife. She chose the m402 from litecigusa.com. We also ordered about $60 worth of juice. She wanted to try them all.

We are looking very forward to getting everything. Should be here by the middle of next week.

Hopefully the car won't cost too much to fix, and I will be able to order the 510 from innovapor by next payday.

 

[Hexum]

Sucks to hear mate. Very Chivalrous of you to order the ladies set first, with a crapton of liquid nonetheless. I have thoroughly enjoyed the dialogue between you and julie. To repeat her, please do keep us informed of your and your wife's vaping experience. :]