What's the best mod/atty combo?

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It's late 2020 and things have moved on lots.
Does anyone have an opinion on the best modbox, atomiser combo that is:
a) Easy to use
b) Fool proof
c) Utterly pleasing

I'll nail my colours to the mast and go for lost vape Paranormal and HorizonTech Falcon 2.
Hassle-free and works superbly.
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The best mod is the one that works best for you. The best atomizer is the one that works best for you.

Even if it is 2020 human nature doesn't change. Matters such as "best" always be subjective at "best". This is our nature as part of Nature. Much as we try I doubt we'll ever alter that.

Seems you like tanks and regulated mods. I like mechanical squonkers using a Wasp Nano or Gorge RDA. I do have two regulated devices though, both squonkers. Seems I like to squonk instead of drip, and I rather use an RDA than a tank. "Huh, how 'bout that?" :)

Which is "best"? I could nor would not tell you. Each kit suits its respective user. That's all that can be said ultimately. Imho, anyone trying to say is looking to stir feces and well I get tired of all the stink real quick. There's no need in it.

Apologies if I'm not wading into some kind of "holy war" over gear used. Learned early on most of it is all the same gear really. It holds a battery / coil and produces vapor. That perspective in mind, I see no need to hold fast to any gear as favorite.
 
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What really did it for me after 6 years of vaping was my Odin DNA250C and Zeus X Mesh combo. I never vaped anything so smooth, flavor is great, vapor is fine, no condensation, and of course no leaks. Everything is always bone dry on the outside. All of my RDAs, squonkers, and other tanks have become obsolete. And those mesh strips even after hundreds of ml worth of juice through them they just keep going. Just dry burn and rewick. After spending about 5 grand a year, I can say I finally found what I was looking for and I am done buying vape gear for good. :D
 
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I don't care too much for mods. If a mod delivers adequate power, feels good in my hand and doesn't have major flaws, I'm fine with it.

After all these years of vaping there are actually a lot of atties that I really enjoy. Top air RTAs for convenience, bottom air RTAs for flavor and/or cloud chasing.
Most of the time I vape on RDAs though. Some of them I enjoy the most on a squonker, while others are a perfect fit for my tube mechs.

Mesh is like Covid-19 to me.
It may be everywhere, but it still sucks. Ymmv.
 

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As long as the mod reliably delivers the power range you want from it, the rest is up to aesthetics and ergonomics. This of of course is highly personal.

Atomizers are even more personal. They need to meet the expectations, tastes and preferences of that individual. Every atomizer is different and when you factor in the complexities or the internal fluid dynamics that govern the airflow, and other user defined factors like wicking, juice choice etc. choosing just the right one for you can be tricky.

Recommendations are sometimes useful, but generally the way to get to what you want is to try a whole bunch of gear until you find a setup that cranks your wheel. Sometimes it takes a while and costs a few bucks to get there.
 

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All mesh atties suffer from one huge drawback. You cannot vape the cotton almost dry like a standard coil atty and then let it sit while vaping some other gear.
If you come back to the mesh atty the next day, the vape will be absolutely disgusting.
The liquid in that humongous batch of soaked cotton oxidizes and/or gets diluted by the moisture in the air because of the juice's hygroscopic nature.
On a standard coil atty you can take a few puffs to get rid of that awful taste, on a mesh atty you need to change the wick.
 
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All mesh atties suffer from one huge drawback. You cannot vape the cotton almost dry like a standard coil atty and then let it sit while vaping some other gear.
If you come back to the mesh atty the next day, the vape will be absolutely disgusting.
The liquid in that humongous batch of soaked cotton oxidizes and/or gets diluted by the moisture in the air because of the juice's hygroscopic nature.
On a standard coil atty you can take a few puffs to get rid of that awful taste, on a mesh atty you need to change the wick.

How come I don't have that problem mimöschen? How long are you leaving them sit? This one here sits maybe 5 hours tops before being vaped again and it is fine. Here, I found one sitting for a week, yes... time to change. But what's the big deal? That's what you signed up for when you use rebuildables. :D
 

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I love tasty vapes too mimöschen. And while coil builds are ok, they don't match the tastiness and smoothness of mesh. Like these Zeus X Mesh never gurgles (assuming you wicked it correctly), never leaks, never condenses, and every vape is perfect from start to finish. Even all of my RDAs can't match the vape I get from these Zeus X Mesh. And you don't have to drip. But you could drip them like a RDA if you want, it won't care.

Another thing that is sweet being a top airflow tank, you have that space between the chamber and the tank. It is a fantastic insulator and it keeps the flavor of juice at room temperature. Thus the juice never cooks before you vape it like it does with most tanks. So you get that fresh flavor like your dripping without dripping.

And if you want to get rid of that soaked cotton oxidizes and/or gets diluted by the moisture in the air taste without changing the wicking. Then all you do is to drip a bit to start it off and then you're good to go. Just like you do with a dripper. :D
 
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I like a warm vape. Mesh won't deliver that.

I often hear this. Although I'm not a big fan of warm vapes, so it is hard for me to relate. And lab tests shows temps above 460°F / 238°C, you start getting high levels of formaldehyde and acetaldehyde in your vape anyway. I don't know if that is what I am tasting above those temperatures, but the vape tastes charred to me. And most flavored vape juice contains lots of different flavors. And they peek at certain temperatures. Thus when I vape, I want each puff to hit those peek temperatures without going overboard.

And it is easy to regulate the temperature of your vape by the amount of air you intake on each puff. For example, I could get the vape really hot by slowing down my draw even down to 25W on a Zeus X Mesh. Of course the combination of wattage and draw you could vape at any temperature you want to, even with mesh.

If you drip on top, the juice held inside the wick still tastes foul. You may not notice it. I do.

Oh I notice it alright. I notice it with coils too. And when you drip over them, you are diluting it down to a very small percentage. Sure it is still there, but to a far smaller amount. Same is true with coils. And within a few puffs after you drip, that diluted bad taste disappears anyway.

I dunno if you ever tried this, but if you want to taste everything except for your juice... here's what I do. Inhale a puff and hold it in your lungs for like 5 seconds and then exhale. All of the sins are now exposed! The taste of the wicking and coil/mesh are very clear. There is something about flavored ejuice that the flavors are very short lived once vaporized. And even when doing this sin test on all of my tanks and RDAs, these Zeus X Mesh tastes the cleanest out of all of them. That is really impressive if you ask me.
 
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Your question is wide open... a hundred answers and all reflect the personal tastes of the person responding.
Twenty questions time (it's the best way to get specific answers)...
Mod: removable battery (single or dual) or internal?
Tank (atomiser) drop-in coils or rebuildable (as in RDA or RTA)?
What juice do you like (not flavor so much as VG/PG ratio)?
What is your budget (low, flexible or high end)?
Don't forget external battery mods also need batteries and an external charger!
 
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All mesh atties suffer from one huge drawback. You cannot vape the cotton almost dry like a standard coil atty and then let it sit while vaping some other gear.

I didn't know since I never tried. Well I just did it for educational purposes. Vape was pretty dry tasting and not a drop of ejuice could be found. And now let's see how it looks.

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Wow! Is that wicking ever dry! Virtually bone dry. So I would have to disagree with you there. You can vape them dry. That mesh has 7759 puffs on it by the way (wicking wasn't changed yet with 100ml worth of juice through it). It looks like it could have used a good dry burn about 30ml ago.
 
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I didn't know since I never tried. Well I just did it for educational purposes. Vape was pretty dry tasting and not a drop of ejuice could be found. And now let's see how it looks.

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Wow! Is that wicking ever dry! Virtually bone dry. So I would have to disagree with you there. You can vape them dry. That mesh has 7759 puffs on it by the way (wicking wasn't changed yet with 100ml worth of juice through it). It looks like it could have used a good dry burn about 30ml ago.
That doesn't look dry. Might be the awful resolution though.
 

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almost 8000 puffs... what did you expect???

I expected this actually. Far better shape compared to when I vape coil builds. I have on one Zeus X Mesh so far is over 400ml through it. I just dry burn and rewick and off it goes again. I thought I would be replacing the mesh every month. But that isn't the case at all. So far you install one mesh once and it just keeps going and going. I haven't had them for 6 months yet, but they don't seem to have a problem making it until then. Maybe they might last a year or more. They really clean up nicely after a dry burn. I figured they would get brittle and start cracking. But nothing yet. :)
 
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