What's up with e-cigarettes?

[borockster]

Hmmm...I hate to say it but you are absolutely doing something wrong.

One puff every 10 minutes?

Can't ever empty a Carto before it clogs?

Need to clean a new Carto in one session?

I hope you are kidding because if not you are either the Schleprock (Flintstones) of the vaping world or the most inept person ever. I hope for your sake it's just "Schleprock syndrome".

I'm a noob at this (2 weeks) and vape like a mad hatter on crack as I kick my analog addiction and am having none of your issues. WOW!!! Dude I literally feel bad for you...Good luck in the future....

 

[attyburner]

Hmmm...I hate to say it but you are absolutely doing something wrong.

One puff every 10 minutes?

Can't ever empty a Carto before it clogs?

Need to clean a new Carto in one session?

I hope you are kidding because if not you are either the Schleprock (Flintstones) of the vaping world or the most inept person ever. I hope for your sake it's just "Schleprock syndrome".

I'm a noob at this (2 weeks) and vape like a mad hatter on crack as I kick my analog addiction and am having none of your issues. WOW!!! Dude I literally feel bad for you...Good luck in the future....

No, I'm not kidding - whatever that makes me - Flinstone or a Monster. I smoked Marlboro Red lifetime. I vape only couple of months and I just can't get any satisfaction. I don't want to go back to analogs because I may not get second chance to quit. I'm glad I managed it this long, but I'm frustrated. Whatever I try - be it atty, cartomizer, or tank is same crap to me. It clogs, overheats and burns. As long as there is dumb wick it won't get better. I need fuel injection - not carburator. Everybody here is talking MODS, MODS. What is damn mod? Just a different battery. It still uses of-the-shelf atomizer with WICK. Stop building batteries and take a good look at the weak link - the WICK. That's the messy part I'm talking about. Cleaning wicks, doing maintenance on something that need to be redesigned from ground up. OK, some people want to have hobby. I don't. I have things to do. I'm not 18 living with parents. I'm just trying to get manufacturers to design better e-cigarette - not copying each other.

 

[attyburner]

Ummm...you're doing it wrong?
Most people don't have those same problems/frustrations. I know it's easier to blame the device instead of changing what you do. But instead of getting angry, why not try to do it right?

Can you define "right"? Call me an idiot, but I can't figure out what's right and what's wrong. Pushing button and taking puff can't be that wrong and how do I screw up puffing on automatic battery? First puff is OK. Second puff has very little vapor. I want more. I take third puff - really deep one. I want to feel it, taste it. It just overheats. No satisfaction. I have to let it cool of for 10 minutes. Before the thing is out of juice it is clogged beyond use. Maybe I should not take the second or third puff. Take just one puff every several minutes. Then I would be like the user somewhere in this thread saying he's 23 days on two cartos. How does he do it? One puff a day???

 

[borockster]

No, I'm not kidding - whatever that makes me - Flinstone or a Monster. I smoked Marlboro Red lifetime. I vape only couple of months and I just can't get any satisfaction. I don't want to go back to analogs because I may not get second chance to quit. I'm glad I managed it this long, but I'm frustrated. Whatever I try - be it atty, cartomizer, or tank is same crap to me. It clogs, overheats and burns. As long as there is dumb wick it won't get better. I need fuel injection - not carburator. Everybody here is talking MODS, MODS. What is damn mod? Just a different battery. It still uses of-the-shelf atomizer with WICK. Stop building batteries and take a good look at the weak link - the WICK. That's the messy part I'm talking about. Cleaning wicks, doing maintenance on something that need to be redesigned from ground up. OK, some people want to have hobby. I don't. I have things to do. I'm not 18 living with parents. I'm just trying to get manufacturers to design better e-cigarette - not copying each other.

I'm not calling you a monster LOL! Look up "schleprock". Basically he was a character that had nothing but bad luck.

Now on to your "problem". I think the problem is that you are "puffing". E-cigs work best with a long, light drag. Not a quick, sharp "puffs". I made this same mistake in the beginning. Try it....

 

[attyburner]

I just use a drip-tip and dewicked attys. Works fine for me.

Can you "drip and drive"? Is it legal ;-) Dripping is a hobby - not smoking (or smoke substitute). The innovative part here is that you got rid of the wick. That's a step ahead in my book. The coil may not even clog once the wick is gone.

 

[attyburner]

I'm not calling you a monster LOL! Look up "schleprock". Basically he was a character that had nothing but bad luck.

Now on to your "problem". I think the problem is that you are "puffing". E-cigs work best with a long, light drag. Not a quick, sharp "puffs". I made this same mistake in the beginning. Try it....

Thanks. I'm doing that lately. Long light drags. I use clearomizers with all the rubbers removed so I can see the coil, trying not to overheat it. There is new problem. Damn clearomizers leak. The tube is installed at the factory with to much force and is cracked on the bottom. That part starts leaking. It is all crap. Low quality overpriced junk. Anything that comes from China is junk and we're dumb enough to pay them. It's back to plain old cartomizers for me again. I'm not giving up, but I'm frustrated.

 

[borockster]

Thanks. I'm doing that lately. Long light drags. I use clearomizers with all the rubbers removed so I can see the coil, trying not to overheat it. There is new problem. Damn clearomizers leak. The tube is installed at the factory with to much force and is cracked on the bottom. That part starts leaking. It is all crap. Low quality overpriced junk. Anything that comes from China is junk and we're dumb enough to pay them. It's back to plain old cartomizers for me again. I'm not giving up, but I'm frustrated.

I have never used anything but cartos so I have no opinion on "clearomizers". I don't even know for sure what one is.

But as far as Chinese products being junk...errr...YEP!

 

[AlDynamite]

Hey, I love my fountain pens! I only use ballpoints when I have to. The variety of ink choices, nib sizes and styles is incredible. Fountain pens make for a great writing experience.

 

[DrChong]

if you dont like the wick, put blue foam in it... should solve your problem abit

 

[cactusgirl]

For what it's worth, part of the learning curve of using pv's is learning how to draw on them. You can't draw on a pv the same way you draw on a cig. I learned that pretty early on. With cigs, I used to take short, quick 'power puffs' but now with my pv, I know that I need to take long, slow, moderate-suction draws in order to get the same effect.

Just my humble opinion, but anyone who begins this endeavour thinking that pv's will behave exactly the same way that cigs do, is only setting themself up for failure and disappointment. Modify your thinking and your behaviour (with the pv) will follow!

 

[HarmonyPB]

Can you define "right"? Call me an idiot, but I can't figure out what's right and what's wrong. Pushing button and taking puff can't be that wrong and how do I screw up puffing on automatic battery? First puff is OK. Second puff has very little vapor. I want more. I take third puff - really deep one. I want to feel it, taste it. It just overheats. No satisfaction. I have to let it cool of for 10 minutes. Before the thing is out of juice it is clogged beyond use. Maybe I should not take the second or third puff. Take just one puff every several minutes. Then I would be like the user somewhere in this thread saying he's 23 days on two cartos. How does he do it? One puff a day???

There are too many definitions of "right" to list them all. It all depends on what device(s) you are using. uices, technique, etc. Not to mention I would have to see you vape, not just read what you are doing. Have you tried to find local vapers? Since you live in the "usa" there are alot of them there, I'm sure you could find some to help you out! Like many people on here have pointed out it could be anything!!
Also, you are not an idiot for not being able to figure out what is right and what is wrong. But if you've read the forum and tried everything I think your best bet would be to hook up with someone and let them help you instead of raging on here. Even if you can't find someone in the "usa" you could always use skype. THere are many helpful people in Canada, UK, Australia and beyond! I say skype instead of email so they can see what you're doing/using and help you do/use it right.
Also, if you aren't "satisfied" could it be a nic level problem? See!! There's another thing it might be! Good luck!

 

[skex]

You are definitely doing it wrong.

Here's my setup. Prodigy v3.1 with 2 TEnergy 3.2 bats giving me a 6v vape (actually I tend to rotate 4 sets of batteries). I use BE112 SR atomizers with a cartridge to keep the bridge damp between puffs. I primarily drip 3 to 5 drops at a time a put a little on the cartridge so it doesn't all dry out. I can vape relatively constantly as long as I occasionally add a few more drops of juice. An atomizers generally lasts me a couple weeks to a month before it starts tasting off (this can vary quite a bit) when it does I grab a new on off the stack prime it with a few drops of juice and go back to it.

It isn't generally that messy as long as I don't overfill the atomizer too much and even when that happens a tissue of a paper towel fixes it right up.

You might want to consider switching to penstyles (BE112s) they tend to run a little cooler than the 510s as I understand it and will give you a more consistent experience.

As to driving. I vape my ... off when driving. I can generally get a top off at a light or if traffic is steady enough I can get a few drops in easily enough (though it's probably better to just do it when you have a natural stop coming up.

Oh and one thing I think I'm going to start suggesting to people that are having problems getting off the analogues, See your doctor about a Welbutrin prescription. I've been doing some thinking recently and that's the one major difference between what I did and all the guys here at work who tried vaping but went back to analogues.

The more I think about it the more I think that might have been the edge that helped me ween off the rest of the stuff in an analogue.

 

[bassthumper]

Ummm...you're doing it wrong?
Most people don't have those same problems/frustrations. I know it's easier to blame the device instead of changing what you do. But instead of getting angry, why not try to do it right?

THANK YOU.

So NOOB comes in here and starts ranting and raving saying "I spent more on ecigs than you ever will" and "I've tried so many ecigs" blah blah blah.

Ummm you are in an ecig forum and I'm willing to bet that MANY MANY MANY people have ALOT more experience than you. Know your place, and quit being a jerk or your experience is gonna be WAY WORSE. Both on and OFF the forum.

Also, I'm willing to bet you can't show me ANYTHING I don't know about ecigs. Go ahead and try.
what a piss poor attitude you have. You must be very unhappy.

 

[bassthumper]

You're talking about battery. It still uses wick that will clog. Anyone defending bad product is just working against progress. As long as you buy marginal product, there is someone to manufacture and sell it to you. If you insist on better quality, manufacturers have to go back to drawing board and improve it. That speeds up progress. Shoelace wick is obsolete, let's move on to something that works better.

Well then how about YOU step up and open your own ecig company, since you know everything and won't be happy til things go your way?
I mean- you're a NOOB and you're here ranting and raving about how crappy things are. You don't even know!
So go on- make one yourself and sell it. Until then- how about you do what THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of other vapers are doing and MAKE DO with what you have?!! That or just go smoke again. I don't care either way.

I'm sick of these threads.

 

[cactusgirl]

Thanks. I'm doing that lately. Long light drags. I use clearomizers with all the rubbers removed so I can see the coil, trying not to overheat it. There is new problem. Damn clearomizers leak. The tube is installed at the factory with to much force and is cracked on the bottom. That part starts leaking. It is all crap. Low quality overpriced junk. Anything that comes from China is junk and we're dumb enough to pay them. It's back to plain old cartomizers for me again. I'm not giving up, but I'm frustrated.

I just started using the clearomizers earlier this month and have found them to be awesome. I did have some problems with leaking with my first two (the tube came unglued at the bottom) but I have since figured out how to avoid the pressure buildup. You need to make sure that there is absolutely NO air in your syringe. When you fill the syringe, wait for any air bubbles to rise to the top (tip end) of the syringe and then gentle push them out back into your juice bottle...make sure that the juice is filled right to the tip of the needle tip (again, no air). Then, insert the tip right to the bottom of the clearomizer and fill very slowly making sure that the juice fills the clearomizer evenly from the bottom up. When you get to the top of the clearomizer, any air left in the tube will gently bubble out of the opposite filler hole. Again, patience is required...you need to fill it slowly and carefully to avoid the pressure buildup in the tube. Hope this helps!

 

[kmac]

Well I don't think the accusatory statements are going to help too much. After all this is the new member's forum, and it sounds like he's having many of the same problems most of us have had when starting with ecigs. I mean his statements might be a little exagerated but maybe not.

I would just suggest you ask some specific questions rather than generalizing that ecigs don't work. They work great for a lot of people. Maybe tell us what specific device you are using and you will be much more likely to get better tips on how to make it work better.

As for the overall ecig market, I bought my first ecig almost 3 years ago and I can tell you that they have come leaps and bounds since then. Things take time. Yes, there is some maintenance involved with most ecigs, but that's just how it is for now.

 

[Rob-o]

Anybody ever tried to paint a house that has been smoked in for years? After washing the walls and ceiling, the stuff still wants to bleed through. Had to paint with a nasty primer in order to seal the stuff out. BUT the house is finally smelling better.

 

[miriaminspringtown]

Thanks. I'm doing that lately. Long light drags. I use clearomizers with all the rubbers removed so I can see the coil, trying not to overheat it. There is new problem. Damn clearomizers leak. The tube is installed at the factory with to much force and is cracked on the bottom. That part starts leaking. It is all crap. Low quality overpriced junk. Anything that comes from China is junk and we're dumb enough to pay them. It's back to plain old cartomizers for me again. I'm not giving up, but I'm frustrated.

You are not alone as it is frustrating trying to find the right combination of atty/carto, juice, and e-cig. For example, I got annoyed at constantly having to remove the little rubber top on the cartomizer to keep the filler moist to avoid that burnt taste. I decided to get rid of that little rubber top once and for all, and put a wide mouth drip tip on the carto. I still could not get the juice into the carto without making a mess so I researched on ECF and found a top feeder, VapeMate. O.K so now I have experimented and found the right carto (510 LR at 2.0 ohm), the right juice (100% VG, organic, down to 6% nic), and all that remains is the right e-cig. It is a progression of logically finding the right combination of atty/carto, juice, and e-cig.
Think of it as a challenge and you will succeed in finding the right combination that works for you.

 

[attyburner]

Well, that's a cute analogy, however it is flawed. You can't compare the "juice" in the two devices, its not even close.

If you have a blue pen, nobody cares if its sky blue, royal blue, or whatever. Its BLUE. So a pre-filled "cartridge" works just fine.

The juice in E-cigs are very subtle and everyone has different tastes. One vendor's "cinnamon blast" tastes different from another's. One person might LOVE flavor X, while another might find it disgusting. Some people like different flavors at different times of the day.

Really your statement makes about as much sense as saying "why doesn't everybody eat the same kind of food, all packaged in sealed containers. It would be far less messy". Part of the beauty of e-cigs is their diversity and the ability of the artists (the juice vendors I'm talking about) to blend up their own magic flavors. If you removed that, IMHO, you would take away a lot of e-cigs' appeal.

I agree that choices are good, but let's not throw standards out with the dirty water. I buy juice from same seller and everytime I reorder it has different taste. That's not good. It may not be their fault. They don't make the ingredients. They buy that from their supplier who buys them from some lab. I don't know. I just feel that standards should be followed. Do you want to buy something "this wide" and "this tall", or you prefer measurements? When you buy let say cartomizers, you find out that you have whole museum of them over period of time. Where is the standard there?

 

[attyburner]

if you dont like the wick, put blue foam in it... should solve your problem abit

Wick is the tiny rope going through the coil. You can't put foam there.