i love your attitude!!
Thank ya muchly ... I am a naughty little Faerie ... but hey, rather it be me than someone else
i love your attitude!!
Well...sorry to say...but as a Mrs T customer in the USA...her juice was the first I thought of when the whole fiasco broke out (had placed an order)...only because of all the secrecy...(That and I am new..and I had never heard of Box Elder). I know there are creepers out there cruising for your recipes...but try not to let it sway your responses. I am a big fan...and couldn't help wondering about your nic. ahhhh...what the heck do I know...just being honest. For the record, I still don't see the harm, but then again, I am not a liquid vendor, nor do I want to be. I definitely do not envy you guys with all the hoopla, etc.
After hearing that CEO guy's repLIES though, I figured he was just making it up (about other vendors using his stuff) to appear more of a mainstream type operation. I could be wrong but, like I said, what do I know?
Well....I know I LOVE me the Gooey Butter Cake!
Wow, I am shocked by almost everything your say in your post. I have heard so much about Ms. T's and was hoping to try your juice, but since you seem to treat people not living INSIDE the USA as.... well I'd rather not say. Wow, I am speechless!Vocr, to be honest, we cannot guarantee anything at all that you personally receive. You are in the Philippines, and that is a country to which we do not ship. I have seen in other posts of yours that you purposely test vendors to see who ships to your country, and then you promote ways to circumvent the system in case they don't. If you are having a middle man ship to you, our product is passing through someone we do not know, and anything could be happening to it in transit. Therefore, we take no responsibility for our juices that you receive. Because of your location, you are not eligible to purchase based on our criteria. I am also aware, again from your own posts, that you have tried to replicate our flavors - Snickerdoodle in particular. I understand that you like to dabble in DIY. This is a problem we face quite a bit, and a reason why many people may phrase questions behind a guise of "marginal confidence" in order to find out some of the secrets that make Ms T's juices so distinctive. We are well aware that you and others would love to get our recipe for Snickerdoodle, you would love to know where we get every one of our ingredients, and you would love to know where we get our high quality nic.
Brandon
Ms T's Bakery
Hmmm... not nice (also quite unnecessary).You know, sounds to me like a load of hot air coming out of the Philippines! Someone lifted a rock... and look what crawled out?!
What??????? Are you sure that you are vaping Ms.T's?For Pete's sake ... hang on ... ummm ... who's Pete anyway and how the hell did he score a mention?! He's got nothing to do with Ms T's ... ohhh I digress ... We can talk about Pete later ... Every time one of us comments on this heinous little thread it gets bumped. Enough trolling here ... the malcontents can join poor hapless Pete who never even deserved the mention and build a bridge to get over it ... and as far as "it" is concerned, if you can't work out what "it" is, well the job must have all ready been done and we can MOVE ON!! The alternative is a well chilled can (... and let's face it, we all need to chill from time to time) from the case that I have in the fridge of "suck it up princess" ... useful stuff that I partake in from time to time when the "Idiot" folder fails me ... which is not often ... oooooppppsss ... digressing again ... the cans are great, they make building the bridge less of an option/task and it somehow just materialises after the imbibing of said can ... really, it's great stuff, I highly recommend it.
So the moral of this little story is ... the nic that goes into the juices is a US supplied product, from a reputable company which is part and parcel of the wonderous secretness of the fabulous juices that we love with such passion ... with that, I think it's fair to say, 'NUFF SAID!
It was the 3rd and 4th paragraph that I quoted. Not nit picking bits. Sorry I don't understand your 'well loved' silly dry humour/sarcasm.I am sorry to see this thread bumped up to the top of the threads once again ... seriously, let it go!
Given that is has been successfully bumped, I'm going to comment, though not in my usual (and generally well loved) silly manner!
Very Interesting to see the bits taken out of context (highlighted) when the preceding puts what has been "nit picked" into context. The point you have missed or tired to miss, not entirely sure which, is that the OP has a history of rabble rousing. Ms T keeps her recipes secret as they cannot be patented ... you must have missed that bit too in your hurry to debase the company as a Mom & Pop enterprise and misrepresent the comments that were fairly made by Brandon.
Those who wish to DIY and dabble with their mixes, I say good on you and more power to you! There are a much larger proportion who wish to buy their juices ready made and if they are anything like me, mix them with other premade flavours (and I only use Ms T because hands down it's the VERY BEST juice I have tried), to create their own unique flavours without running the risk of self harm with excessive nic added to the concoction.
Original recipes for flavour creations should remain that way if the creator so desires it that way, it's a business and at the end of the day, divulging information about ingredients or where they come from, specifically, such as the company itself, is a terrific way to sabotage the business, now I am quite sure you were not inferring for a moment that should be the case and nic juice is one of the ingredients.
Quality control is in place and there for the public to view, both here in the forum and also on Ms T's site. This matter could have been dealt with better by private email but the fabulous OP chose to all but demand the information in a public forum. Even in private I have no doubt such information would never have been given, however, there was no need for the abrupt and public manner in which he commenced this thread, other than to try and take advantage of a bad situation for his own ends.
Make no mistake, there are those out there who will do their utmost to get a hold of key ingredients etc to make their own juice and not for the sake of having it for themselves because it can't be shipped to them, or it's difficult to get, but to try themselves to mimic well known and popular flavours and then try selling them themselves. For this kind of industry, which thrives on individual recipes and flavour ideas, it simply isn't right or correct for anyone to ask for or worse, expect to get information regarding these recipes.
Those that want to DIY ... go for it, knock yourselves out ... but don't go deriding a business for standing up for themself and not giving anything away and being blunt about why. That is honesty and given the manner in which the business was approached and asked, I think it was well handled and far from rude.
As for me, I will make dry sarcastic remarks and cover them with equally dry humour. I don't rightly care whether you like it or not. As for vaping any thing other than Ms T's you can be quite sure her juice is the ONLY juice in my eGo-T and any innuendo as to anything untoward could be publicly misconstrued and I would suggest you remove such inference ... you wouldn't want to be responsible for Liable now would you ... as there is a risk of it being seen in the wrong light, that could indeed damage ones reputation if taken the wrong way ...
Wow, I am shocked by almost everything your say in your post. I have heard so much about Ms. T's and was hoping to try your juice, but since you seem to treat people not living INSIDE the USA as.... well I'd rather not say. Wow, I am speechless!
I too (like many other people) am an expat living abroad, and have dificulty buying gourmet juice from a few USA Mom & Pop shops. If I buy a product from a vendor and have it drop shipped does NOT make me some kind of low life and drop shipping is not a 'middle man' and 'someone you don't know'... stuff and nonsense. Gee!
I too am trying to make recipes for my farorite juices for the very simple reason that the Mom&Pop shop will not send to me!!!
My 2 cents.