What's your opinion? Many APVs out there has similar specs, but which one(s) is/are built like a tank?
Which APV is the most rugged and high wattage?
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Most rugged APV: the Provari.
The stuff that owners have put their Provari's through and survived is legendary. Dunks in a swimming pool or river - no problem. A full cycle in a washing machine - no problem. Falls from one story onto concrete - no problem. Falls from a speeding motorcycle onto the highway - no problem. Run over by a dump truck - no problem. Try these things with nearly any other mod and see how many survive. The only instance that I've read where the Provari "lost" was with a lawn mower blade (and you should have seen the blade after the fight...).
Voltage vs wattage: You get to the same place with whichever method you use. The Provari uses variable voltage (no variable wattage).
The stuff that owners have put their Provari's through and survived is legendary. Dunks in a swimming pool or river - no problem. A full cycle in a washing machine - no problem. Falls from one story onto concrete - no problem. Falls from a speeding motorcycle onto the highway - no problem. Run over by a dump truck - no problem. Try these things with nearly any other mod and see how many survive. The only instance that I've read where the Provari "lost" was with a lawn mower blade (and you should have seen the blade after the fight...).
Voltage vs wattage: You get to the same place with whichever method you use. The Provari uses variable voltage (no variable wattage).
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https://sites.google.com/site/electricnerdvapor/home/nephalim-dc-passthrough-mod-v2
ENV Nephalim. With an 18650 battery the limit is 5 watts. It's more if you use the DC power.
ENV Nephalim. With an 18650 battery the limit is 5 watts. It's more if you use the DC power.
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When I get my Provari I intend to use it as a hammer when I don't have a hammer handy.
So, are you interested in the most rugged, the highest power, or a combination of the two? Priorities?
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The Provari takes a beating and keeps on ticking. There is post on here whose Provari got run over by a car and that didn't slow it down. I love mine. Was in store just looking at a Vamo and when the guy saw my Provari he told me I will sell you one but you already have the best mod on the market. Save your money unless you just want one to have one.
I like my Original Vamo, I have done some terrible things to it and it keeps going
I hope that's a typo, cause 5w is crazy low.
Sent from my mobile, using Tapatalk... excuse the typos
Depends on the size you're willing to put up with, but the Throathit Twin 18650 VV Mod is easily as robust if not more robust than the ProVari.
Has a 5A limit, so with a 1.2ohm build you can hit 28 watts (just a tad more than the ProVari or any DNA20 mod...)
I'm currently using a 0.9ohm dual coil build and it's firing comfortably at 4.3v (the LED read-out states what it's putting out, if it can't fire a coil it'll flicker and buzz rather than tell a lie and fire at a lower voltage while showing the wrong numbers).
You have to PM him on UKV and wait 'til he answers but it's worth it (usually just a couple of days, he goes hiking a lot I think).
It comes with 2 x AW IMR 1600mAh batts installed so the battery life is typically 2-3 days, but you can request other batteries - 2 x efest IMR 3400mAh batts would be a dream!!!
It comes with a wall charger that plugs into the bottom and charges my 2 x AWs in about 70-80minutes.
Has a 5A limit, so with a 1.2ohm build you can hit 28 watts (just a tad more than the ProVari or any DNA20 mod...)
I'm currently using a 0.9ohm dual coil build and it's firing comfortably at 4.3v (the LED read-out states what it's putting out, if it can't fire a coil it'll flicker and buzz rather than tell a lie and fire at a lower voltage while showing the wrong numbers).
You have to PM him on UKV and wait 'til he answers but it's worth it (usually just a couple of days, he goes hiking a lot I think).
It comes with 2 x AW IMR 1600mAh batts installed so the battery life is typically 2-3 days, but you can request other batteries - 2 x efest IMR 3400mAh batts would be a dream!!!
It comes with a wall charger that plugs into the bottom and charges my 2 x AWs in about 70-80minutes.
provari = most rugged.
several others have higher wattage limits but not by much and i dont think the prices warrant 5 extra watts with no warranty or track records of durability.
about the only place to go after that is a really nice mechanical. if using rebuildables you can build a coil that will maintain excellent output for quit some time and handle any watt requirement you ask for.
as someone who only used VV for a year and now for the past 2 months has been experimenting with well built mechs im more impressed then i thought i would be after being let down by the cheapos and clones my first time around with them. everything from a geni to a kayfun and my drippers work awesome. i think i may be becoming a pure DC convert.
but for VV? provari, reliable, consistent and durable.
the only other one i have owned built just as toughand almost as accurate is the semovar. pure russian industrial design. i just dont know what kind of abuse the chipset can handle yet
several others have higher wattage limits but not by much and i dont think the prices warrant 5 extra watts with no warranty or track records of durability.
about the only place to go after that is a really nice mechanical. if using rebuildables you can build a coil that will maintain excellent output for quit some time and handle any watt requirement you ask for.
as someone who only used VV for a year and now for the past 2 months has been experimenting with well built mechs im more impressed then i thought i would be after being let down by the cheapos and clones my first time around with them. everything from a geni to a kayfun and my drippers work awesome. i think i may be becoming a pure DC convert.
but for VV? provari, reliable, consistent and durable.
the only other one i have owned built just as toughand almost as accurate is the semovar. pure russian industrial design. i just dont know what kind of abuse the chipset can handle yet
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Most rugged and high wattage, also, every APV has the "basic" functions these days from my research, VV and/or VW, battery capacity meter, resistance (ohm) meter, 510/ego threading.
I've been stalking the Provari discussion that was started by GPS trucker, and I'm leaning towards a Provari. I do love made in USA ad well, so I like supporting anything that's well made and designed in the USA...
I'm using an eVic right now, the only thing I don't like is the 11W cap, as I'm a chaser of plumes, and with a large wick and 1 to 2 ohm coil with heavier gauge wires, it begs to be fired at over 11W...
I'm not into mechanicals, since I also seek a somewhat smart device can tell me my resistance, protection, and battery monitoring...
Gonna look into the Provari, does anyone know where the best place for the price for a genuine Provari? I know provape is the direct, but wad wonderjng if there are other sellers that are selling it cheaper. I love buying American, but I'm a broke American as well...
Thanks all for the inputs, I think I know what my next APV purchase is...
Cheapest place to buy a new Provari is from Provape. There are a select few vendors who also sell Provari's, but they will be the same price or more as from Provape.
If you don't mind a plain vanilla Provari, you can purchase a silver one with red LED display for $160. Colors $20 more. Blue or green LED for $15 more. Provape sends the colored Provari's out to another business to have them painted with carakote paint, and that extra expense is passed on to those customers that want color. The green and blue LED's are more expensive for Provape to buy, so again that expense is passed on to those customers that want that option.
You can buy the phased out version 2.0 Provari (full warranty) for as little as $140 in their clearance section. You can also purchase brand new, slightly blemished version 2.5 Provari's (full warranty) for as little as $145.
Clearance
If you don't mind a plain vanilla Provari, you can purchase a silver one with red LED display for $160. Colors $20 more. Blue or green LED for $15 more. Provape sends the colored Provari's out to another business to have them painted with carakote paint, and that extra expense is passed on to those customers that want color. The green and blue LED's are more expensive for Provape to buy, so again that expense is passed on to those customers that want that option.
You can buy the phased out version 2.0 Provari (full warranty) for as little as $140 in their clearance section. You can also purchase brand new, slightly blemished version 2.5 Provari's (full warranty) for as little as $145.
Clearance
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Most rugged and high wattage, also, every APV has the "basic" functions these days from my research, VV and/or VW, battery capacity meter, resistance (ohm) meter, 510/ego threading.
I've been stalking the Provari discussion that was started by GPS trucker, and I'm leaning towards a Provari. I do love made in USA ad well, so I like supporting anything that's well made and designed in the USA...
I'm using an eVic right now, the only thing I don't like is the 11W cap, as I'm a chaser of plumes, and with a large wick and 1 to 2 ohm coil with heavier gauge wires, it begs to be fired at over 11W...
I'm not into mechanicals, since I also seek a somewhat smart device can tell me my resistance, protection, and battery monitoring...
Gonna look into the Provari, does anyone know where the best place for the price for a genuine Provari? I know provape is the direct, but wad wonderjng if there are other sellers that are selling it cheaper. I love buying American, but I'm a broke American as well...
Thanks all for the inputs, I think I know what my next APV purchase is...
After reading this post it sounds like you want a DNA20 mod. While they are more powerful they are also kinda hard to come by. Not to mention expensive. The jury is still out on the durribility of the board as well. There are people that have 2+ year old provaris that are still going strong. But if you want power look into the DNA20 mods. They can handle just about anything you can through at it.
For off the shelf atties, clearos, and cartos the provari works great. If you want to build your own coils and are chasing huge clouds then the DNA20 might be a better choise.
Thanks, let me look into that, we have so many choices now, seems like a new APV is popping up every other week...
I'm so tempted to design my own APV, but the cost will be magnitudes in order of what I can get from existing APV dealers...
It's more meant to be used with DC power, but I am never at my desk long enough to do so. So, I just throw the battery in it.
Resistance/Watts w/ DC power:
0.6Ω – 50W
1Ω - 30W
1.5Ω - 20W
2Ω – 15W
2.5Ω - 12W
3Ω – 10W
ETA: There is an interview with the modder on the PBrusardo VapeBash 2013 video on You Tube. He explains how it was made for power vaping. I'm not into that, but I won it at a VapeMeet and since it was actually donated by my favorite vape store, I keep it.
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the voltage is not adjustable so the wattage will have to be adjusted through resistance of the coil.
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