I am new to PVs and Bloog. Been reading a learning a lot on this forum. Thanks everyone for almost 2 weeks without an analog! I have recently discussed how much I love the mini Bloog maxx fusion. However, I need some advice. I'm thinking about purchasing a 3rd battery and don't know whether to buy the 78mm or the 65mm or even the new trifecta. I would also like to know why so many on ECF are so adamant on going to bigger batts and mods. I don't understand this. To me right now the Bloog mini is plenty. It gives off plenty of vapor and taste. However, will I start to get an itch for something bigger along the way? Why do so many want to go bigger? Now, back to my original question. I like the mini size and it seems to hold a charge for most of a work day and about half a day on a none work day. How much longer will a 78 batt last and how long can I expect the trifecta to last? If I get the 78 batt than I will have to purchase a new charger with it since I ended up with a mini kit with no way to charge larger batteries. I really like the idea of the trifecta, but it does seem rather long. Help me to understand so I can make a better decision on purchasing these batteries.
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mods and bigger batts... basically give you longer battery life....and more power (in some cases more vapor...but you also burn more juice) ...thats it.... pretty simple...some like the appeal of it being a gadget as well....
if mini lasts 3 hours of vaping the 78 should last you about 4.... so i would estimate 1/4 longer... leaford can chime in here though....and as to what the trifecta will do....still waiting for mine too! so leaford can shed some light
if you buy the 78mm you will need to buy another charger...but you can just buy the usb charger and plug into a computer...no need for another pcc..unless you want one...
if mini lasts 3 hours of vaping the 78 should last you about 4.... so i would estimate 1/4 longer... leaford can chime in here though....and as to what the trifecta will do....still waiting for mine too! so leaford can shed some light
if you buy the 78mm you will need to buy another charger...but you can just buy the usb charger and plug into a computer...no need for another pcc..unless you want one...
Congrats on two weeks! That's awesome. I'm not quite there yet myself, but it won't be long. 
NYC answered your questions, but I'll add a bit.
I honestly think, from reading a whole lot of posts on many e-cig forums, that for a lot of people vaping becomes a hobby. And that's great if it keeps them from smoking, but at some point it becomes less about avoiding a cigarette and more about just enjoying vaping, looking for more vapor, a better throat hit, great flavors, etc.
I think the BMF is perfect for people to get rid of analogs. I currently have zero desire for a longer-lasting battery than the mini (unless they made the mini last longer), because to me, it's the perfect size as it is. Carrying the mini PCC is simple, even in a jeans pocket; it's the exact size of an iPhone (and I have to think that wasn't a coincidence). So, I can leave the house with a complete PV (battery and carto), plus the PCC with a charged battery and two cartos, in one pants pocket. That will last me for a loooong time, and I was a 1-1/2 to 2 pack-a-day smoker for decades.
So, don't worry about it. If the BMF is doing it for you now, don't have a concern until it isn't, which isn't necessarily going to happen. It all depends on your personal needs.
NYC answered your questions, but I'll add a bit.
I honestly think, from reading a whole lot of posts on many e-cig forums, that for a lot of people vaping becomes a hobby. And that's great if it keeps them from smoking, but at some point it becomes less about avoiding a cigarette and more about just enjoying vaping, looking for more vapor, a better throat hit, great flavors, etc.
I think the BMF is perfect for people to get rid of analogs. I currently have zero desire for a longer-lasting battery than the mini (unless they made the mini last longer), because to me, it's the perfect size as it is. Carrying the mini PCC is simple, even in a jeans pocket; it's the exact size of an iPhone (and I have to think that wasn't a coincidence). So, I can leave the house with a complete PV (battery and carto), plus the PCC with a charged battery and two cartos, in one pants pocket. That will last me for a loooong time, and I was a 1-1/2 to 2 pack-a-day smoker for decades.
So, don't worry about it. If the BMF is doing it for you now, don't have a concern until it isn't, which isn't necessarily going to happen. It all depends on your personal needs.
You don't even want to see my manual battery. That thing is longer than most XL and it is still a KR-808 that I received in December when I first started. It will last me an 8 hour shift at work but that is not constant vaping. It is 110 mm at 380 mah as a KR808. It is a workhorse
THe mods came to be, I think, mostly because, back then a small pv was a penstyle with 150-180 mAh.. So they were way over cigsize anyway and with dorky dodgy pcc's, the obvious choice was offcourse to go bigger. Cus a shorter, fatter batt is nicer to use than a 15-18cm stick thingy. ANd suddenly they got better performance, higher voltage and so on. There are some who have chosen, now the Bloog is here, to have the mod for at home and the Bloog for going out..Because it gives just as satisfying vape as bigger pv's...or so they say...
I'm brand new to this, but (correct me if I'm wrong) I believe much of the appeal of the Trifecta is that it has the ability to be a passthrough or can be detached for portability, and it can also has the option of being in either auto OR manual mode, rather than just one mode. I don't think battery life is it's selling point, though of course it will need to provide an acceptable amount to keep users satisfied
Battery life should absolutly be essencial for a product that is supposed to be an improvement compared to other same brand offerings and to competitors. It may offer the ability to be a passthrough and a manuel, but I already have a passthrough. I also have an auto that can last for most of the day and wihout a primer puff. Now I expect all upcoming batteries to outperform at least what a battery is intended to improve upon and that should be cordless usage time
I can think of other ways a battery can be improved upon that does not include longer battery life; better draw, faster switch, more versatility (like the Trifecta). I understand cordless usage time is the main improvement you are looking for however.
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So, what's the comparison in mah, voltage, etc between the MaxxFusion 65mm, 78mm and the new Trifecta? I'm guessing the MaxxFusion batteries are 3.7v, but what about the Trifecta? Is it also 3.7v or is it 5v like most other PTs? Is it 3.7v while being portable and 5v while in PT mode...just curious. Because if its strictly 3.7v, I'll stick with my usual PT.
Just trying to get all the info I can since I currently use a Vapor King from V4L, but I've been curious about Bloog's system since reading a good review of them by PapaBloog.
Just trying to get all the info I can since I currently use a Vapor King from V4L, but I've been curious about Bloog's system since reading a good review of them by PapaBloog.
As I wrote in other threads. This is the first real innovation I've seen since starting out( sep2010). Making the same size work better an dfor longer time between charge. So yes longer batt life is innovative as long as its not just because its bigger so fits bigger batt inside.. The mods are impossible to carry around for a woman. With somewhat tight clothes, theres NO place for it.. ( unless you have very large b**bs I guess you could put it there..) Keeping the size down is everything to me.
I've been out and about offcourse, with my gear and the only thing that doesent get ridiculed is the kr8. I was extatic the day I got my first one. Smaller than my 510 stuff AND better TH. Finally no stupid comments. Just interest. Oh I do have the small 510's but only manual, and when people hear they only last under an hour and have to press a button, theyre put off right there..
I've been out and about offcourse, with my gear and the only thing that doesent get ridiculed is the kr8. I was extatic the day I got my first one. Smaller than my 510 stuff AND better TH. Finally no stupid comments. Just interest. Oh I do have the small 510's but only manual, and when people hear they only last under an hour and have to press a button, theyre put off right there..
So, what's the comparison in mah, voltage, etc between the MaxxFusion 65mm, 78mm and the new Trifecta? I'm guessing the MaxxFusion batteries are 3.7v, but what about the Trifecta? Is it also 3.7v or is it 5v like most other PTs? Is it 3.7v while being portable and 5v while in PT mode...just curious. Because if its strictly 3.7v, I'll stick with my usual PT.
Just trying to get all the info I can since I currently use a Vapor King from V4L, but I've been curious about Bloog's system since reading a good review of them by PapaBloog.
No, it's still 3.7v. The usb charges the batt, and the batt powers the carto.
Still curious how the Trifecta compares to the 65mm and 78mm MaxxFusion betteries. Even though its 3.7v, I'm still curious about getting one and if its specs and performance are similar to the MaxxFusion batteries, I might as well get the Trifecta.
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
I don't have a trifecta, but I do have one of those other usb pass through batteries, I can say there are obvious benefits to that style battery over one you have to remove your cartomizer/atty to charge. If I ever had to pick ONE battery to make it through the week with it would be the usb chargable one, because the ability to vape while you charge and then unplug and go means you are never without power.
Think about it if you were left with one battery..no matter how big it is, and larger batts just mean larger charge times, it would at some point have to be unscrewed from the cartomizer and left, unvaped, on the charger.....but with the usb passthrough/battery combo you can sit and watch a movie while charge you can drive to work while charging if your working on the computer or on your car in the garage...you can have it charging and at the same time vape on it. The difference between a normal pass through and a combo unit is when its time to get out of the car...it comes with you and keeps on vaping, you don't have to swap the cartomizer over to your portable unit...because it is also your portable unit.
When I started vaping, I had one kr808 battery and that was it...I quickly learned making sure you have power is the most important thing, it doesn't matter what your vaping on if the battery is dead. Of course if you already own a passthrough 7 batteries and 2 mods..then yea its usefulness to you is probably less, but don't underestimate the ease of a front end charger that lets you keep vaping non stop.
Think about it if you were left with one battery..no matter how big it is, and larger batts just mean larger charge times, it would at some point have to be unscrewed from the cartomizer and left, unvaped, on the charger.....but with the usb passthrough/battery combo you can sit and watch a movie while charge you can drive to work while charging if your working on the computer or on your car in the garage...you can have it charging and at the same time vape on it. The difference between a normal pass through and a combo unit is when its time to get out of the car...it comes with you and keeps on vaping, you don't have to swap the cartomizer over to your portable unit...because it is also your portable unit.
When I started vaping, I had one kr808 battery and that was it...I quickly learned making sure you have power is the most important thing, it doesn't matter what your vaping on if the battery is dead. Of course if you already own a passthrough 7 batteries and 2 mods..then yea its usefulness to you is probably less, but don't underestimate the ease of a front end charger that lets you keep vaping non stop.
I was all set to buy the Trifecta when a concern about the longevity of the battery gave me pause.
Using the Trifecta as I would expect to, driving and charging in the car, then leaving the cable in the car and taking the battery with me, etc. I am worried that the on and off partial charging will dramatically shorten the overall life of the battery.
If I am not using it that way, then it will be just any other battery where I am ensuring that it is fully charged overnight and ready to go for the day. So, I haven't committed yet. Still thinking about it though.
Using the Trifecta as I would expect to, driving and charging in the car, then leaving the cable in the car and taking the battery with me, etc. I am worried that the on and off partial charging will dramatically shorten the overall life of the battery.
If I am not using it that way, then it will be just any other battery where I am ensuring that it is fully charged overnight and ready to go for the day. So, I haven't committed yet. Still thinking about it though.
lith-ions actually drains quicker if you bring it down to 0 percent and back up to a 100 every time. Its probably the number one reason smaller batteries have smaller life spans (as in before they only hold 60 percent or less of the original charge). They go through more charge cycle in two days than a larger battery goes through in a week. Now I believe kr808's in general don't fully discharge they just stop working when it can no longer put out a certain voltage (the same ego type devices as well) but its still going through more charge cycles over all.
Battery life is only one aspect. Versatility has its place as an improvement as well.
I have no need for a trifecta, but I am sure other people will fancy the idea.
The Maxx Fusion batt is all ready a huge improvement in battery life over any other Kr that I have owned.
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