Which battery charger would you get?

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Mcp15

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Happy New Year, all! I'm looking for an additional battery charger. I currently have an xtar wp II-- it's worked out for me, but i need either a 4 bay or an additional 2 bay. My main criteria for the replacement is that I don't want to deal with the spacers. Up until now, I have only been dealing with 18350, but have broadened my horizons with a sigelei Zmax V3, and I've added 18500 and 18650 batts-- it's kind of a pain to keep changing spacers around.

Soooo, I'm looking at the xtar XP4 and also the new(ish) Xtar WP2 S. Anyone have anything good or bad to say about either one? Can anyone explain the basic difference between the "xp", "wp", "sp", "vp"? I don't need anything fancy-- although I' easily distracted by bells and whistles, I seriously don't need them.

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I personally use the xtar VP1 - 4.19v every time. my back up is the SPII

Can anyone explain the basic difference between the "xp", "wp", "sp", "vp"?
just different external features one has 2 selectable charge rates one has 3, one has a lcd sceen, another is 4 bays. they all use the same chips inside (xtar models)
 
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not really the very low.25 on the vp would be great to try to revive a shorted battery or to try and recondition one you drained to low beyond that the setting is too low for every day use.

for the other end of the setting .5 and 1 amp most batteries shouldnt be charged hard like the 350's would benefit from the .5 amps setting and the 2900 panasonic 650 would do fine on the 1 amp setting.
 

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not really the very low.25 on the vp would be great to try to revive a shorted battery or to try and recondition one you drained to low beyond that the setting is too low for every day use.

for the other end of the setting .5 and 1 amp most batteries shouldnt be charged hard like the 350's would benefit from the .5 amps setting and the 2900 panasonic 650 would do fine on the 1 amp setting.

Not applicable to Xtar chargers. If they detect an unsafe condition they won't charge any battery - period. If the battery is under voltage and a fault is not detected they will apply very low current to the battery. If it can be safely brought back up to about 2.5 volts it will start a normal charge cycle. The selected charging current has no impact on an Xtar's method of detecting a reverse polarized or under current battery and how it handles them. But at least they do these two things properly - which is more than I can say for a different and inexplicably popular charger company these days.

The 250 mA charge current option is just there, if you are using really low capacity batteries like 10440's. I have some 600 mAh AW 14500's and I would rather use the 250 mA current option to charge even those.

If you want more on features of the product line you can get most of the info right from their main web site. http://www.xtarlight.com/ Beyond that, search for technical reviews on those flashlight geek web sites if you want to get into the technical nitty gritty. One of those guys really knows how to diagnose chargers. There will be charts and graphs. :blink:

Keep in mind that any four or more bay charger in the market right now - including the one by Xtar - will only slow you down. None of these have truly independent charging channels. They all rely on rapid switching of charging current between the batteries in slot 1 and 3, 2 and 4. If you put more than two batteries in them you end up with extended charge times. It might have four slots, and it is true you can put different capacity batteries in each. But the bottom line is with an electronics sleight of hand it's only applying charging current to two of four batteries at any time. If you want fast charge times stick with two bay chargers.

Regarding the spacers, I would rather have a charger that works and has a two year warranty than a certain other brand that doesn't use spacers and the quality let's just say seems to leave a lot to be desired based on what people report here as failures. Xtar or Pila - those work and aren't getting "blown up" reports on ECF so...

First charger XP WPII 2 now two years old and still working. Second charger Xtar VP1 - no spacers needed and digital display.
 

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Regardless of what a certain poster here says about them (and I respect his opinion), I have a couple of Nitecore Intellichargers, an i2 (2 bays) and an i4 (4 bays). They do what they advertize to do. Pretty darn good chargers as far as I'm concerned. And if anyone follows my posts on this forum, they know I'm ALL about safety.

I bought one of his beloved Xtar chargers, and it is currently sitting in a drawer unused. It uses those flimsy springs to hold the battery in the charging bay...or should I say that is the intent of the springs. My 18350 batteries pop out of the bay on their own because the combination of the spacers and springs don't hold them in place.
 
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Nitecore I4 with a Trustfire TR-001 for backup. I used the Trustfire charger daily for 3 years before I bought the Nitecore. In spite of what people say about Trustfire my experience has been flawless operation. The Trustfire is usually my travel charger because it takes up less room in a suitcase. The Nightcore I4 also charges my Ni-Cad and NiMH batts for other devices. It auto-adjusts voltages for battery type. Read the manual carefully for proper slot usage when charging multiple batteries.

Both have spring loaded sliding bars that securely hold the battery in place and don't require spacers. The Nightcore I4 has three LEDs on each slot to indicate charging progress, so you never have to wonder how much longer before completion.

Any well made UL approved charger is fine. We all have associative preferences with what we are more familiar with.

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