The closest ive found is 24mg m-boro from the house of vapor.. Its decent but doesnt have the throat hit like ss pre filled carts. Ive tried 24mg from vapor talk "tobacco" and it has nice throat hit,just too cigarish for me.I tried the totally wicked 36mg red and it has great throat hit but taste like metal. DIY flavors all vape well but taste like hell and 0 throat hit. Any recommendations? thanks