Whose on our side anyways?

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The only famous person I'm aware of is Rush Limbaugh, I seen him advocating PV's once...Is their anybody else famous, or respected in America? I personally love Rush Limbaugh although I disagree with him on alot, but many many people hate him, and I'm sure people would condemn e-cigs just cause he promotes em e.e..But that's off topic anyhow, just curious who else has spoken against the mainstream ignorant ......s
 

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Katherine Heigl was on tv with hers. And Catherine Zeta-Jones has been using one for 3 months, but she hasn't been speaking out about e-cigs. I think Lindsey Lohan (?) might also have been photographed using one. And Johnny Depp used one in a movie I've heard about but haven't seen.

If we think of "famous and respected" as a non-Hollywood person who is respected for their logical thought and reason, I don't know of anyone who fits that category and is advocating for e-cigs. But I didn't know Rush was advocating for them, either, because I don't listen to his show.

Good question.

I'm thinking along the lines you are. Public opinion and public perception is often swayed by seeing people they like or respect advocating for or against something.

I'd actually like to see "60 Minutes" do a story, and really dig into it and put the actual facts out there for people.

"It's true the FDA hasn't approved them as a smoking cessation device, however they haven't banned them as unsafe, either, because their study did not find anything any more unsafe in them than what is in nicotine patches. They are regulating them as tobacco products, and by 2013 or so, they'll be taxing them as such.

I'm here today at the Windy City vaping club, where 90% of the people in the room used to be heavy smokers but have used these devices to stop smoking. The other 10% have generally cut down to a few cigarettes a day or week. And they all say they'd never go back to their 1, 2, or 3 pack per day habits and feel great.

'Izabella, tell us about your experience with electronic cigarettes...'"​
 

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There was a great lull around here for months. I had a lot of questions, told them about them, quite a few tried but turned back to smokes. Lately, however,I'm finding more and more that are at least reducing smoking with E cigs. Trying to get them to invest some time here is like pulling teeth, not sure why.
 
Katherine Heigl was on tv with hers. And Catherine Zeta-Jones has been using one for 3 months, but she hasn't been speaking out about e-cigs. I think Lindsey Lohan (?) might also have been photographed using one. And Johnny Depp used one in a movie I've heard about but haven't seen.

If we think of "famous and respected" as a non-Hollywood person who is respected for their logical thought and reason, I don't know of anyone who fits that category and is advocating for e-cigs. But I didn't know Rush was advocating for them, either, because I don't listen to his show.

Good question.

I'm thinking along the lines you are. Public opinion and public perception is often swayed by seeing people they like or respect advocating for or against something.

I'd actually like to see "60 Minutes" do a story, and really dig into it and put the actual facts out there for people.

"It's true the FDA hasn't approved them as a smoking cessation device, however they haven't banned them as unsafe, either, because their study did not find anything any more unsafe in them than what is in nicotine patches. They are regulating them as tobacco products, and by 2013 or so, they'll be taxing them as such.

I'm here today at the Windy City vaping club, where 90% of the people in the room used to be heavy smokers but have used these devices to stop smoking. The other 10% have generally cut down to a few cigarettes a day or week. And they all say they'd never go back to their 1, 2, or 3 pack per day habits and feel great.

'Izabella, tell us about your experience with electronic cigarettes...'"​
Well of course, he's an arrogant right winger but simply put there isn't anybody out there left or right that speaks more facts and truth on economics than him...I could care less for his domestic views and politics though...A bit to much biased for the right and clings to the bible too much for my liking but anyways...Lol yeah, I found it on youtube, had sometign to do with a company called Volcano, and he was DESTROYING, The FDA and and the anti-pv membersof the whitehouse and congress...Made my respect go up for him a bunch...I'll try to find the link
 

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Well of course, he's an arrogant right winger but simply put there isn't anybody out there left or right that speaks more facts and truth on economics than him...I could care less for his domestic views and politics though...A bit to much biased for the right and clings to the bible too much for my liking but anyways...Lol yeah, I found it on youtube, had sometign to do with a company called Volcano, and he was DESTROYING, The FDA and and the anti-pv membersof the whitehouse and congress...Made my respect go up for him a bunch...I'll try to find the link

i got it ready to go



and this was before the FDA ruling
 
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That's funny since media matters is most obviously trying to mock him
yes and the fact that i got the link from a Bill Godshall tobacco harm reduction update e-mail

i never paid attention to the site, i took the embed code so i could keep it handy :D
 
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Good for you, mediamatters is garbage...I feel most networks and talkshows contain bias, both left and right and anything in between, but MediaMatters is one of the worse...Of course I have my own veiws and opinions most to which I would say I strongly feel is right or true, but I try my hardest to be open minded and listen o everyone speaking...But that group is ridiculous, the entire site is built off out of context sound bites, hit and run statements, and even many outright lies... I could even link a few...There about as credible as any idiot on youtube
 

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Katherine Heigl was on tv with hers. And Catherine Zeta-Jones has been using one for 3 months, but she hasn't been speaking out about e-cigs. I think Lindsey Lohan (?) might also have been photographed using one. And Johnny Depp used one in a movie I've heard about but haven't seen.

If we think of "famous and respected" as a non-Hollywood person who is respected for their logical thought and reason, I don't know of anyone who fits that category and is advocating for e-cigs. But I didn't know Rush was advocating for them, either, because I don't listen to his show.

Good question.

I'm thinking along the lines you are. Public opinion and public perception is often swayed by seeing people they like or respect advocating for or against something.

I'd actually like to see "60 Minutes" do a story, and really dig into it and put the actual facts out there for people.

"It's true the FDA hasn't approved them as a smoking cessation device, however they haven't banned them as unsafe, either, because their study did not find anything any more unsafe in them than what is in nicotine patches. They are regulating them as tobacco products, and by 2013 or so, they'll be taxing them as such.

I'm here today at the Windy City vaping club, where 90% of the people in the room used to be heavy smokers but have used these devices to stop smoking. The other 10% have generally cut down to a few cigarettes a day or week. And they all say they'd never go back to their 1, 2, or 3 pack per day habits and feel great.

'Izabella, tell us about your experience with electronic cigarettes...'"​

i just like yellow : )
 

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No you don't, here's a link for what they did to snus, I just wonder how long it took her to find this guy.
60 Minutes: Snus - YouTube

The anti gal on there was rabid - LOL! She sure had her hymnal memorized. At least the doctor they interviewed had a good perspective.
 

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This was posted more than once in the past, but it has been a long time, and it would be difficult for interested folks to track it down in the archives of ECF. So I think it was valuable for you to post it here again.

This is by far the most objective report that has ever been done. It's a tragedy that almost all of the TV reports since then have been influenced by the FDA's disinformation campaign. So to be "balanced" they feel obligated to tell us that the FDA found "carcinogens" and "antifreeze" in the e-cigarettes they tested.
 

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This was posted more than once in the past, but it has been a long time, and it would be difficult for interested folks to track it down in the archives of ECF. So I think it was valuable for you to post it here again.

This is by far the most objective report that has ever been done. It's a tragedy that almost all of the TV reports since then have been influenced by the FDA's disinformation campaign. So to be "balanced" they feel obligated to tell us that the FDA found "carcinogens" and "antifreeze" in the e-cigarettes they tested.

I just submitted a story suggestion to the producers for doing another segment on e-cigarettes. Keep fingers crossed.
 
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