Why aren't cigarillos look alikes more popular?

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DezRo

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Considering the drawbacks with cig-a-likes, the short battery life, etc etc.
Why not just go with a cigarillo look-a-like?
The e-cigs, no matter how small they are, always look too large to be a real cigarette anyways.
The cigarillo really is the next best thing, yet it is so rare and hardly any vendors sell it.
You could even have a drip tip that looks like a wood tip a la swisher sweets.
Longer, slightly more girth, and more conducive to longer battery life.

So why when I search "Cigarillo e-cig" do I come up with hardly any results?
Seems pretty obvious that this would be a superior route to take than cigarette look-a-likes.
Am I missing something here? :facepalm:
 

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Seems like it would be a weird middle ground. You have your look-a-likes and then you have your mechs and/or bigger regulated devices. For those that use and like look-a-likes it is a small simple device that just works. Then you have your "vapers" who want more, so they go with a bigger and "better" device to deliver the vapor. I just don't see a need for bigger look-a-like that still won't perform nearly as well as a mech or regulated device.

I started with GreenSmoke Cig-a-likes about 3 years ago and while it was decent the novelty wore off and I just stopped using it over time. They aren't very good but some people find them good enough. Anything bigger than that would probably just have a longer battery life but still fall short on the vapor production, flavor delivery, as well as many other facets of the vaping experience that so many people strive to get.
 

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There used to be a few "cigar" types around, and flat tips for the older pen-style ones that made them look like a cigarillo, but on the whole they were always more of a niche market within a niche market, they weren't done all that well, and by the time people "graduated" from cigalikes they wanted something with more kick than the cigarillos and cigars gave.
 

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I started with cig-a-likes and then moved on to Ego style batteries and mods... mostly because of battery life and vapor quality like you mentioned.
But after 5 or so years of on again off again vaping I've returned to keeping some cig-a-likes handy for certain situations (like when I have to leave the house, for instance).
I just find bigger devices and batteries to be too clunky, looks more obnoxious and suspect to others around me, AND the manual push button just kind of kills it for me sometimes.
Automatic draw isn't as reliable... true. But I just like the aesthetic of auto draw a lot more. And you can puff hands free which frees up your hands and just looks better IMHO.
I'm not exactly proud of my vapor habit when I'm out in public. Using a large device with a push button looks like I'm sucking on a cordless hookah or something and I just feel really obnoxious when I'm using it. That's just my opinion though...not trying to knock anyone here.

Cigar look-a-likes have been around forever and are not rare or hard to find at all.
I'm talking cigarillos specifically. Cigarillos are a smaller, more slender type of cigar and they have a much more casual look and feel to them than chewing on a big ol' chomper.

And if you want to go a step further... Cigarette "flavors" are hard to replicate, whereas cigar/pipe flavors seem to be a little easier to create.

I don't know. At this point I'm thinking the best option out there is to just slap a custom wrapper (cigar paper) on a battery and just go with that.
 

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They were a short lived fad with a very small market. All they were at the time were a 510 auto battery experience shrouded in a fake plastic looking shell. At the time the look didn't fool anyone and for the extra size there was no added gain in run time or performance. And they sure as hell didn't taste like a cigar anything. Most were disposables.

So that's what you are missing - and why they came and went. You can still find them in a couple few places but the experience hasn't improved any.
 

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Woah, tell us how you really feel!

I feel like most cigalikes really emulate the dimensions, and no so much the color, of a cigarette.

I also don't think cigarillo use is as popular as cigarette use, especially among your typical ecig user whose been smoking for a (few) decade(s). I think that's the whole point of copying cigarette qualities, to make for a smooth transition. It's just that nobody decks out egos to look like cigarillos.

I'm also curious how a brown finish would look. I'd rather a robotic silver than an organic brown tube :)

I'd guess that's why they're less common than cigalikes.
 

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The point is that it's technologically very difficult to manufacture an effective device that is as small as a cigarette, whereas it's a lot more feasible to make one that is about the same size as a sharpie pen.
Guess what is also about the size of a sharpie pen? That's right. Cigarillos.

And the whole cigarette vs cigar flavor thing doesn't really matter since you can refill with your own juice anyways.
That was a tangent and I probably shouldn't have included it as it's just a distraction from the main point of this thread.

Also, I saw a cigarillo look-a-like that looked more like a stick or a piece of wood.
The wraps on Burning Cigar Electronic Cigarette Skin for Wrapping eCig Batteries | Add some style to your eCig Battery with eCig Skins for example, are closer to what I'm looking for...but not quite.

ps. Sorry if I came off insulting with the whole robot cawk thing. I'm not as politically correct and tame as most people in this community seem to be and sometimes I forget to censor myself. :D
 

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The point is you are looking for something that the marketplace has already decided it wasn't interested in. They came with little interest, they went. They were based on non-refillable carto technology. It would take a lot of design effort to make something now that was rechargeable, used a refillable "something", all be hidden inside a more realistic fake cigar tube, that wouldn't be a pain in the .... to take apart to refill and/or recharge - that enough of the market would still want to buy, that would make it worth the financial cost and bother. I believe that design aesthetic train already left the station and there is little interest left in cigalikes, let alone cigaralikes.

Even e-pipes tried to go down that path, but quickly gave up on form over function when it came to styles and designs. Other than the basic shape, most e-pipes stopped trying to look like a conventional tobacco pipe long ago.
 

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Yup, nobody is buying it.

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Well, you'd mentioned that you weren't too proud of vaping and that you felt apv's were obnoxious in public. Where I live (which is not dissimilar from Seattle), smoking a cigarillo would be considered more obnoxious. More familiar, sure, but certainly it's the devil you know at best rather than something that's approved of.

Was it not drawing attention to yourself that you were primarily concerned with? Maybe a good stealth vape setup - of which there are plenty - might do the trick for you. You mention hands free and auto-firing, too, I know - these would seem to be the trappings of cigarette convenience, so maybe it's about that, but from the sounds of it, you're past that in your own home.

There are a lot of options in between cigalikes and 'robot cawks', just not a lot (as you've discovered) that mimic smoking apparati.
 
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