Analog look-alikes

[wv2win]

I did not cite because the reports are for members of a tech-industry group and are not available to the public. I have no idea which suppliers you know, but the reports were based on more than a million retail sales per year.

I believe you are losing sight of the fact that the number of people on vaping forums are less than 0.4% of all regular vapers in America. Those seeking information or indulging in their avocations are the majority of the posters here, and the other vaping forums, so extreme mods fit into their passion. Those of us who are happy with our regularly-sized, analog-look-alikes are extremely scarce in these forums.

Believing that most people will only be truly happy with expensive, gigantic, and ugly mods is on a par with thinking everyone wants and needs a chromed-up lowrider with a 2million-amp sound system.

If your so-called "stats" are not available to the public, then they don't exist IMO. But in your response, you neglected to include my statement that I agree that auto batteries probably have more "overall" sales than manuals because of the bottom-feeder suppliers such as Blu, SE and Njoy who only sell auto batteries and put the majority of their money into marketing. I also acknowledged that some vapers only need a small device with little throat hit and that it is good that their is variety. Your inference, however, that small auto battery devices are superior in performance to larger manual battery devices based on sales is just plain comical. You can push that theory all you want but it won't do much for your credibility. If you blind folded 10 new vapers and asked them which test device provided more of an "inhaled feel" of an analog, I would put my money on the larger manual battery device to win out every time.

 

[Sense Field]

If your so-called "stats" are not available to the public, then they don't exist IMO. But in your response, you neglected to include my statement that I agree that auto batteries probably have more "overall" sales than manuals because of the bottom-feeder suppliers such as Blu, SE and Njoy who only sell auto batteries and put the majority of their money into marketing. I also acknowledged that some vapers only need a small device with little throat hit and that it is good that their is variety. Your inference, however, that small auto battery devices are superior in performance to larger manual battery devices based on sales is just plain comical. You can push that theory all you want but it won't do much for your credibility. If you blind folded 10 new vapers and asked them which test device provided more of an "inhaled feel" of an analog, I would put my money on the larger manual battery device to win out every time.

Dude...You need to read over your posts before you hit the submit button. You really come off like a ...... I'm not calling you a ........I just think perhaps you need to read over and revise certain sentences. This is the internet...you have to be careful what and how you type something.

Instead of saying "If your so-called "stats" are not available to the public, then they don't exist IMO."

say..."I understand you have access to statistics that aren't available to the public but if I am not able to analyze these stats myself, then to me they aren't relevant. There are many factors that could swing the pendulum towards auto batteries being more popular and I would love to have the chance to take a look at the survey results and come to my own conclusions."

In general...I have read over your posts...and you seem to be arguing things that others aren't even arguing. For instance...no one is inferring or stating or proclaiming anything near the statement of: "Super Mini auto batteries are better then mods". For some reason you seem to find this statement in everyones posts. That's not even what this thread is about.

Most people are just saying that mods aren't for them...does that mean they don't perform better? No. Is it out of the realm to think that someone might just not care to ever even try such a big device...I don't think it is. Are small battery devices getting better? Yes...are Mods getting better? Yes...are more and more people buying devices like Smoke Stix? Yes. Do all people who vape troll the forums? Not at all.

I guess the main thing here is...these people are stating their opinions and you can't argue with an opinion.

My advice is to either join the discussion everyone else is having, and feel free to state your opinions...or move along.

And one thing to always remember...and this goes for any forum site out there...You can not judge a cross section of people based on a small sub group of enthusiasts.

 

[wv2win]

Sense Field, my response to your post, not FanWriter, was conciliatory acknowledging your point that some only need small battery devices. Word smithing another's writing as you did to me and then calling them derogatory names, makes you come off as the a....... And the other poster's point seemed clear that if more of a particular battery type of PV is sold, it must be a better product. I believe leaving new people with that idea will lead to disappointment and back to analogs for many.

 

[Trips1103]

Seriously. I just wanted to know if they were making any improvements in pvs that look more like analogs. I did not mean for this to be a pv vs pv thread.

Not even sure how it got this way. :/

Some people did respond, and thank you very much for that.

 

[Sense Field]

Sense Field, my response to your post, not FanWriter, was conciliatory acknowledging your point that some only need small battery devices. Word smithing another's writing as you did to me and then calling them derogatory names, makes you come off as the a....... And the other poster's point seemed clear that if more of a particular battery type of PV is sold, it must be a better product. I believe leaving new people with that idea will lead to disappointment and back to analogs for many.

I was just trying to point out that in this particular thread...you are arguing your opinions with everyone and that a lot of points you bring up don't even seem relevant to the post that you are responding too.

I didn't call you a derogatory word...I said you were coming off that way. As any man knows...there is a distinct difference between saying someone is coming off like a ***** and saying they are actually a *****.

Anyway...I was just trying to help you out bro...I figure...a lot of time when people are causing arguments in threads...they probably don't mean to.

Like the post above says...this is a thread that was opened to talk about Super Mini eCigs...not to debate the quality of a mod vs a commercially sold mini or super mini. Comparing the two is just absurd to begin with...they target two different markets.

As for people going to back to real cigs because of low quality commercial minis...I'm sure people can find stratification enough to quit with smoke stix, vapor king, bloog or any other decent two piece unit. Quitting smoking has more to do with wanting to quit then if someone is carrying around an 808 or a mod. eCigs just help people who want to quit...if they really want to quit and something isn't working for them...they will find eGos and mods.