Why do I like a cheap clearomizer over a Protank 3?!? Help...?

[tchavei]

Hi all

This is my first post so first is first:

My name is Tony, I started vaping in 2010 but after two years, due to personal and profissional issues, I somehow fell back to analogs. After a pneumonia and a bronchitis, I'm done with analogs once and for all so... back to vaping

I didn't wan't to make the same mistakes that I did when I first starting in this culture (read that as buying every new gadgets that would come out and trying every system on planet earth) so I quick read some stuff on the net and decided to get a zMax mini with a protank 3 for home use and a protank 3 with a i-taste V3.0 VV for outside use (its lighter and doesn't stand out too much). While I was waiting for the stuff to arrive and drop the bad habit as soon as possible, I turned to my old stash (mostly ego batts and 510-T atomizers). My old ejuice was probably bad because I swear I caughed even more than with analogs... I was getting scared my lungs were shot!

Anyway, I quickly went to a local store and I bought a cheap clearomizer (I think its an old version of a vision or something like that) and 10ml ejuice... wow, it was great and in 48 hours my cough dissappeared and I could start breathing again.

Today my stuff arrived and I immediately prepared the protank for my favourite juice... and here comes the problem... the vape isn't bad but its not the same as with that cheap plastic clearomizer... I don't know what the problem is... here are the specs and my symptons:

1 - clearomizer: vision or similar with 3.0 Ohms (I was suprised when I got that reading... way higher to what I was used to in the back days) coupled with a 6W setup (more than 7 and it starts to taste burned)

2 - protank 3 with a 1.5mm atty (dual coil) on 5 up to 11W... no difference besides amounts of vapor

problems: My lungs can't take the protank 3... its too harsh for me... I start coughing (probably still due to my very recent bronquitis). The flavour is also lower. With the cheap piece of plastic, the vapor is smooth and warm and I really enjoy the taste (using mojito right now).

I'm getting pretty much upset with this... why am I liking a 3 Ohm setup better than a 1.5 Ohm? Is there any way I can make the protank stopping be so harh? Maybe its my imagination and the problem are in my lungs that are probably still shot but I don't know... its just not satisfying...

Another thing I was thinking... does the nicotine content influence the harsheness of the vape? In the back days I used 36mg but for the recent quick fix, all I got was 18mg. Today, with the new PT3, I got myself a juice with 24mg... somehow it feels too much? Can that be? Even so, it tastes better on the vision clearomizer than on the PT3...

A little help please?

Thanks

Tony

 

[want to quit]

Could not read the entire thing but hey, if clearos make you happy stick with it. Cheaper for you and at the end of the day you want to quit smoking so that should be perfect for ya.

In regards to the nic level yes it makes a huge difference. I started out with liquid at 24mg nic and got myself down to 18, and now 12mg. If I vape 24mg now I cough since its way too strong for me.

If you have a 1.5ohm coil on your protank set your mod/pv to like 3.7-4.2v and lower the nic level to 12-18mg and it should be great.

 

[want to quit]

And keep in mind there are 2 main components in eliquid PG and VG.

VG thick vapor, smooth throat hit
PG flavor, less vapor and stronger throat hit

I mostly use 100% VG or if its nicley balanced like five pawns e liquid I am fine with 50VG 50PG.

 

[DroopyDroors]

you like what you like!!!

 

[edyle]

1: the protank3 comes with dual coil;

So your 1.5 ohm dual coil on the protank 3 actually consists of 2 3 ohm coils. It's going to need twice as much power as your 3 ohm single coil. It is also going to put out more vapor.

2:
yes nicotine content affects the harshness of the vape;
PG content also.

 

[DetraMental]

I've found I like my cheap little bottom coil clearo's for certain juices and the way it vapes as compared to a cartotank or a dual coil tank. Those do have their purposes for other juices. There's nothing wrong with liking the cheaper vape, nothing at all. I don't like my tobacco in large tanks but love it in the bcc's cuz of the way it vapes, gives it a smokey vape. I don't like low resistant coils like 1.5 ohm unless I use them on a mech. They do tend to me harsher on a apv and if you try to turn them up they get a burnt taste. Try a higher resistance coil in your Protank, 2-3ohm, and see if that helps.

 

[xxJollyRogerxx]

Also try using lower watts then work your up so it is not so harsh. The Protank draw can be pretty tight. You can get an airflow control for it though. I ended up drilling out out all my T3Ss and a Protank as well to 1.5mm. Since i got the aerotank mega I have gotten very spoiled with a more airy draw which I now prefer. I felt like I was sucking my eyeballs in on the T3S before I drilled them.

 

[tchavei]

Thank you for all your kind answers

I just put some orange ejuice (18mg) in my PT3 and its indeed better. Never would have thought that in the period I was away from vaping my craving would have come down from 36mg to 18mg. Liking menthol based liquids isn't surely helping either.

About modding the PT3 (mini)... It already crossed my mind. I would need to build two 4 Ohm coils to make a 2 Ohm atty. There is only one little problem... I've never did that before and although I feel that I'm able to do something like that, I have no experience and what can be found on the net is rather vague... I happen to have some kenthal A1 wire but its 29 gauge (0.30mm) and I think thats WAY to thick to build a high Ohm setup in a limited space like the PT3. Maybe I'll get my hands on 32 gauge wire and try something like 10 turns to make a higher Ohm setup.

I'm kinda mad now as I got myself a few different 10ml bottles to try different flavours but they are ALL 24mg... dammit... it never crossed my mind that maybe my need for nicotine was less than it used to be... well, nothing that can't be fixed with a little VG

I will keep experimenting (although not today as I think I'm on the verge of an nicotine overdose with all that I've vaped today lol)

Best regards
Tony

PS: Just read the previous post about the tight draw... actually the cheap clearomizer has a much tighter draw witch I prefer. I keep finding myself closing one of the 3 holes on the bottom of the PT3 mini to get the draw a little tighter.

 

[GMayberry]

Welcome to ECF!! You are in the right place for answers to all of your questions, and it seems like you already have some help from here getting you back to a happy vape!

 

[Stratmarsh]

I'd say use the one you like. You can find somebody to buy that protank from you. I have 9 different types of tanks but to be honest I usually only use one(kayfun).

 

[edyle]

I'd suggest getting an airflow base for your protank.

Personally, I use the bases from miniprotanks on mine because of the ego threading.

As for rebuilding the dual coil; when the coil dies, you can just rebuild it single coil; meanwhile it should vape at a fairly high voltage/wattage; I'm thinking 12 to 14 watts.

 

[gandymarsh]

I think you may have hit on the answer when you said you like a tighter draw. More air would create a more harsh hit also dual coils create more vapor. It's a double whammy. I prefer certain juices in the CE4 clearos that I bought when I first started vaping. Lots of variables to consider.

 

[Kropotkin]

Hey, there's no law that says you have to tailor your preferences to majority opinion.

I never liked the ProTank either, and I don't share the current mania for air holes the size of the Lincoln tunnel.


To each her own! That's what's so nice about our hobby.

 

[JooceNoob]

All about personal preference. Just use the one that works for you. Sometimes all that shiny, polished stainless steel just doesn't work as good as it looks.

 

[Punkinhed]

I too like my kanger t3s better on most juices than I do on my aerotank v1... but I also only have a cheap vv ego

 

[klynnn]

I am old school and still use vision clearos like the vivi nova mega. The protanks to me are just too cool of a vape. The latest thing I have found that is comparable is the Kayfun which is a rebuildable but probably one of the easiest to use.

 

[Thrasher]

As for clearos they wouldn't keep making them if people werent buying them, not everyone likes the results from every product the same, if it works and you like them don't worry about it. the PT is just a big clearo anyways sooo.......

 

[tchavei]

I'd say use the one you like. You can find somebody to buy that protank from you. I have 9 different types of tanks but to be honest I usually only use one(kayfun).

Sell it? Nahh... its so pretty I'm sure I'll figure out how to adapt it to my taste.... I just need time and money (but don't we all?)

I'd suggest getting an airflow base for your protank.

Personally, I use the bases from miniprotanks on mine because of the ego threading.

As for rebuilding the dual coil; when the coil dies, you can just rebuild it single coil; meanwhile it should vape at a fairly high voltage/wattage; I'm thinking 12 to 14 watts.

I think I read somewhere that the protank would start leaking if it was rebuilt with single coil since the slots of the atty were made for dual coil and there would be too much empty space... unless one would fill up the slot with extra mesh... don't know... I can certainly try

I think you may have hit on the answer when you said you like a tighter draw. More air would create a more harsh hit also dual coils create more vapor. It's a double whammy. I prefer certain juices in the CE4 clearos that I bought when I first started vaping. Lots of variables to consider.

Hmmm... I actually remember those! I think I have still a couple of CE (no number) somewhere around... only problem with them was that they would leak like crazy during a refill... I always had to put a lower cap to hold the fluid while I was refilling...

However I think you're right... way too many variables... nicotine content, resistance, power, tank type, etc. I think I will get used to it again... hey! I'm from the time when blue foam pads were the ultimate holding medium in a simple 510 atty (I still have a bag of them )

All about personal preference. Just use the one that works for you. Sometimes all that shiny, polished stainless steel just doesn't work as good as it looks.

Yes, but it does look so good. In all honesty I was just wondering why most are going lower on the Ohms and I was so satisfied with a 3 Ohm Clearo... much more than on 1.5 Ohm from the PT3 but I will change that... can't have enough bling so I will try to adapt it (and it will be fun)



I would like, once again, thank you all for the warm welcome and good advice. I'm sure I will stay this time on the bright side of the force... speaking of which... need to buy some kanthal and some ekowool... be right back (oh God, I don't know if I'm a nicotine addict or a shoppaholic...)

Regards

Tony

 

[charly1954]

Hi all

problems: My lungs can't take the protank 3... its too harsh for me... I start coughing (probably still due to my very recent bronquitis). The flavour is also lower. With the cheap piece of plastic, the vapor is smooth and warm and I really enjoy the taste (using mojito right now).

I'm getting pretty much upset with this... why am I liking a 3 Ohm setup better than a 1.5 Ohm? Is there any way I can make the protank stopping be so harh? Maybe its my imagination and the problem are in my lungs that are probably still shot but I don't know... its just not satisfying...

I'm new to these type of setups and I'm probbaly way off. But logically speaking here my opinion.

Not sure but if ur using the same juice in both and the protank is harsher it can't be the juice.

Could it be the protank setup with 1.5ohm coil is maybe slightly burning the juice making it harsh w/less flavor?

 

[isowizard]

from your op i would say nicotine is the issue to look into first and second is airflow. i went from 18mg to 12mg and now on 6mg and i can not vape 18 or 12 anymore as it has more throat hit.
however at the same time i have a more airy draw on my current tanks i use like aspire nautilus and russina 91% v2

so if you think it is more airy draw drop to 6mg and try that out before dismissing the tank. chances are you got a tight draw on the clearo and not enough air to give you a nice hit so the higher nicotine levels do not hit as hard in the throat.