Why does this happen? Picture included.

[Bonskibon]

All I have done so far is throw a coil into a rta/RDTA deck and give it a shot. It came tightly wound. I had to change the wick to get it to work in the RDTA deck and I spaced the wraps out when I did that just to see if it was any different. It did seem to produce more vapor but it's hard to say because I was fiddling around with it a lot.

When you make contact coils your dry burning and checking for hot spots right?

 

[listopencil]

When you make contact coils your dry burning and checking for hot spots right?

Yeah I did do that before I put the wick in. Everything was all good, although I didn't make the coil myself. It came as part of a kit.

 

[Alien Traveler]

Hi Folks, thats is a process called "chelation" that happens when some juice with pyrones (Maltol, Ethyl Maltol) is heated in presence of iron. Is not unsafe. Is not caramelization. To get caramelization you need presence of saccharides like sugar, wich is very difficult to find in e-juices

Source: I'm chemist

Yes, it is not really caramelization. And it happens with Ti and Ni coils also, and they do not have iron. If we wish, we can call it pyrolysis, or thermal decomposition of organic stuff.

If its brown, it is caramelization from heating the gycerin and sugars in the flavorings.

Glycerin does not caramelize. And I hope we do not decompose glycerin when vaping, it can produce rather nasty chemicals.
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[Bad Ninja]

Yes, it is not really caramelization. And it happens with Ti and Ni coils also, and they do not have iron. If we wish, we can call it pyrolysis, or thermal decomposition of organic stuff.

Glycerin does not caramelize. And I hope we do not decompose glycerin when vaping, it can produce rather nasty chemicals.
.

Glycerine will turn yellow when heated.
There are sugars in most flavorings that caramelize.
Its not chelation its caramelization.
Youve been vaping long enough to know this.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

Streaking like that seems to happen more often with the Vanilla custard juice I vape..

 

[Alien Traveler]

Glycerine will turn yellow when heated.

No

There are sugars in most flavorings that caramelize.

No

Its not chelation its caramelization.

Not chelation, not caramelization

Youve been vaping long enough to know this.

Riding a horse does not make you an authority on chemical composition of it's manure.

 

[Rathamar]

Yes ma'am
11% TFA Sweet Cream
11% TFA Ripe Strawberry
.5% TFA Butter
Nic to your level
My juice is 80%VG/20%PG

Thanks for sharing! I am always on the lookout for good flavors!

 

[Etileno]

Yes, it is not really caramelization. And it happens with Ti and Ni coils also, and they do not have iron. If we wish, we can call it pyrolysis, or thermal decomposition of organic stuff.

Glycerin does not caramelize. And I hope we do not decompose glycerin when vaping, it can produce rather nasty chemicals.
.

You are rigth

 

[b.m.]

"There are sugars in most flavorings that caramelize."
No

Look up Flavor west flavors,several of their flavors DO contain sugar syrup,which as i'm sure you know,is made from sugar,so there is in fact sugar in some flavorings that are used in e juice.

 

[Bad Ninja]

NoNoNot chelation, not caramelizationRiding a horse does not make you an authority on chemical composition of it's manure.

Im not the one that claimed to be a chemist.
I dont need to be a clockmaker to accurately tell time.
Even Ethyl Maltol wil caramelize.
It's not chelation.
Its caramelization/browning from the heat.

Are you suggesting its not?

 

[Alien Traveler]

Look up Flavor west flavors,several of their flavors DO contain sugar syrup,which as i'm sure you know,is made from sugar,so there is in fact sugar in some flavorings that are used in e juice.

Do several flavors from Flavor West make "most flavorings"?

Im not the one that claimed to be a chemist.
I dont need to be a clockmaker to accurately tell time.
Even Ethyl Maltol wil caramelize.
It's not chelation.
Its caramelization/browning from the heat.

Are you suggesting its not?

It is not chelation. And it is not caramelization (the world reserved for some special sugars).
And I prefer not to speak about caramelization, because of diacetyl.

Caramelization is the browning of sugar, a process used extensively in cooking for the resulting sweet nutty flavor and brown color. The brown colours are produced by three groups of polymers: caramelans (C24H36O18), caramelens (C36H50O25), and caramelins (C125H188O80). As the process occurs, volatile chemicals such as diacetyl are released, producing the characteristic caramel flavor

Caramelization - Wikipedia

 

[Bad Ninja]

And I prefer not to speak about caramelization, because of diacetyl.

Caramelization is the browning of sugar, a process used extensively in cooking for the resulting sweet nutty flavor and brown color. The brown colours are produced by three groups of polymers: caramelans (C24H36O18), caramelens (C36H50O25), and caramelins (C125H188O80). As the process occurs, volatile chemicals such as diacetyl are released, producing the characteristic caramel flavor

Caramelization - Wikipedia

Ahhh yes.
Lets not speak about it and cloud the facts.

 

[b.m.]

Do several flavors from Flavor West make "most flavorings"?

Maybe you misread my post.Nowhere did i say "most",i said some,but considering they are a very widely used flavoring company,and several of their flavors do contain sugar,then yes there are a lot of juices that contain sugar,and that is only the ones i know of for sure,there are most certainly other flavors from other brands as well that contain the same ingredients,but i do not know of what others may contain it,so i will not say they do for sure or don't,but it does show that the comment of no juices contain sugar is very much wrong.

 

[EIHYPI]

Nm

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

It is not chelation. And it is not caramelization (the world reserved for some special sugars).

It most certainly is caramelization, and it doesn't take any special saccharides to get some yummy caramelization going.

Caramelization is what makes stir fried veggies taste so good. Mmm... sauteed onions, carrots and celery for the mirepoix ... oh, and the roux for my seafood gumbo.

The stuff that makes your vape taste so good once the wick and coil are broken in good.

And I prefer not to speak about caramelization, because of diacetyl.

Ooooo... Diacetyl. The next scary bugaboo for the food and flavoring nanny-staters, obsessive hand-wringers and those confusing correlation with causation.

Ever opened a bottle of a hearty ale and caught the fruity, nutty aroma? That's a diacetyl.

Peel an almost overripe banana and get the scent of another diacetyl.

The bouquet of a fine Burgundy or a Grigio. Microwave popcorn. The list is nearly endless.

So is the list of things that people needlessly obsess over when it comes to food and flavor processing.

GMO's. Steroids and antibiotics in meat. Non-organic salad. Red dye #5. Alar.

Anyone selling you a totally organic, 100% natural, non-GMO, steroid and antibiotic sumthin-or-another has found yet another way to separate the gullible from their paychecks.

And has proved P. T. Barnum right yet again.

 

[Alien Traveler]

Maybe you misread my post.Nowhere did i say "most",i said some,but considering they are a very widely used flavoring company,and several of their flavors do contain sugar,then yes there are a lot of juices that contain sugar,and that is only the ones i know of for sure,there are most certainly other flavors from other brands as well that contain the same ingredients,but i do not know of what others may contain it,so i will not say they do for sure or don't,but it does show that the comment of no juices contain sugar is very much wrong.

To put sugar in e-juice flavor is a very dumb idea.
Informed vaper will never buy such flavor.

 

[Alien Traveler]

It most certainly is caramelization, and it doesn't take any special saccharides to get some yummy caramelization going.

Caramelization is what makes stir fried veggies taste so good. Mmm... sauteed onions, carrots and celery for the mirepoix ... oh, and the roux for my seafood gumbo.

The stuff that makes your vape taste so good once the wick and coil are broken in good.



Ooooo... Diacetyl. The next scary bugaboo for the food and flavoring nanny-staters, obsessive hand-wringers and those confusing correlation with causation.

Ever opened a bottle of a hearty ale and caught the fruity, nutty aroma? That's a diacetyl.

Peel an almost overripe banana and get the scent of another diacetyl.

The bouquet of a fine Burgundy or a Grigio. Microwave popcorn. The list is nearly endless.

So is the list of things that people needlessly obsess over when it comes to food and flavor processing.

GMO's. Steroids and antibiotics in meat. Non-organic salad. Red dye #5. Alar.

Anyone selling you a totally organic, 100% natural, non-GMO, steroid and antibiotic sumthin-or-another has found yet another way to separate the gullible from their paychecks.

And has proved P. T. Barnum right yet again.

O, my...
I rest my case and save some electrons.

 

[b.m.]

To put sugar in e-juice flavor is a very dumb idea.
Informed vaper will never buy such flavor.

I agree,it is very dumb.I was simply pointing out that it does exist,which is why people should research as much as they can to know what is in there,as i am sure a lot of people do not know about those flavors containing it.I will give huge props to a few of the flavor suppliers like Bull city who post warnings when a particular flavor has something of concern,but not all the suppliers do this,and they should so people know which ones to avoid.

 

[Kprthevapr]

 

[CMD-Ky]

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