So, I have always been pretty good at making coils. Experimenting, following guides, etc. I got a new pen, which is a Hybrid, so I can't exactly test the ohms. I've made enough I can get close to what I'm trying to be at. But, for some reason every coil build I make, seems to get soo hot it burns through the cotton? No matter how much I saturate, wait, I mean hell, I can damn near douse the cotton so I KNOW it's not dry at all. It almost looks like the coils are getting so hot they are possibly burning the cotton, even though they are completely saturated. I can literally fill a puddle of liquid, and it will burn right through it. The coils are firing up beautifully, but I can't stop getting the burnt taste. I'm using dragon wicking, which I use on almost all of my builds. Any help would be much appreciated.
Why does this keep happening?
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I think I see your problem...how many wraps? Gauge of wire? For the sake of your safety, you should get something that will tell you the resistance prior to using them.
Stop using that hybrid until you A)Purchase a DIGITAL MultiMeter - like: http://www.harborfreight.com/ac-dc-digital-multimeter-37772.html ( you can pick one up 20 $ ish from about any hardware/home improvement store locally) and then take the multimeter leads and put the positive lead of the meter on the positive screw of the hybrid and the negative lead of the meter on the negative screw of the hybrid. (make sure you check the resistance of your multimeter leads also by touching them to each other and then subtracting that from your reading)
Now once you do that^^ proceed and see if problem persists. If so provide us with reading details so that we can help troubleshoot further.
Now once you do that^^ proceed and see if problem persists. If so provide us with reading details so that we can help troubleshoot further.
I've definitely been meaning to pick one up, unfortunately this is a very high-end mod, and I am very eager to start vaping on it frequently.
Had it for a few weeks now, been trying numerous builds on it. Only ones I don't have problems with it seems are very poorly made builds that don't produce the amount of vapor I'm used to.
I've definitely been meaning to pick one up, unfortunately this is a very high-end mod, and I am very eager to start vaping on it frequently.
You've had it for a few weeks and still don't have a multimeter? Order a multimeter now. Seriously.
I agree with CreepyLady & kiwivap. Extremely poor form and a bad unsafe practice to attempt to vape a coil you haven't measured on a meter. I don't care how many coils you've built/used before.
If this hybrid is a Genesis-style RBA, they can be tricky to setup to use properly if you've not used one before. You have to do the "genny-tilt" each time you vape one.
I've definitely been meaning to pick one up, unfortunately this is a very high-end mod, and I am very eager to start vaping on it frequently.
All the more reason to NOT use it without one. Keep it all in one shiny happy piece ya know??? You can get the MM at lowes, home depot - all sorts of places for under $20 smackers. That 20 bucks will help you keep your expensive mod in one pretty piece..oh yeah and your face and fingers too
So GO GET IT!! Once you can find out whats up with your builds you will be able to fix it and actually USE that high end mod. So get the darn multimeter already and STOP using something that is performing improperly when you have no way to meter it. So go get it, k?
The more power you put to a coil... the more juice the coil consumes... at 1/16 you are not getting enough juice wicked to the coil you have made.
AND BUY A MULTIMETER...
AND BUY A MULTIMETER...
I understand the concern, but I am using the best batteries available on the market. I've vaped for awhile at coils doing about .12 ohms before with no problems. I also have a few ohm testers for my other mods and attys, I just got this not too long ago, not even considering the fact that you couldn't screw in a hybrid mod into an average ohm tester. Apparently I shall have to buy a multimeter. I just really don't understand the unsafe factor, if I can safely vape .12 ohm coils with these batteries, why am I having problems with coils that aren't even below 2 ohms? Really appreciate the help. Hopefully the Koltes near me has a multimeter. @likestogofast I really don't see how the liquid is the problem. I am SOAKING the wicks I have in, and my mod has a very very large drip well for a ripping atty. I did however cover up most the coil, and it's working amazing now. Just strange, because most the time when I do dragon wicking I have to leave one end of the coil uncovered for it to perform well. Now that I covered the entire coil up, it's blowing clouds like crazy!
I'm not sure how familiar you are with ohm's law/power/wattage, but if you really are running 0.12-0.2 ohm coils through your mods, its no wonder you're getting dry hits.
Assuming your mod puts out a relatively low voltage of 3.5V at 0.12 ohms, you'd be pushing 100Watts through your coil. WHAT!? Running a 0.2 ohm coil gives you about 60 watts of power. Those coils would go through juice faster than I can just dump it out of the bottle. To give you some perspective, I run a 0.4 ohm coil and that gives me just a little over 30 watts, and I have to redrip every 4-5 hits or so. I wouldn't be surprised if you had to redrip after every hit with your coils. How long do your batteries last you, 10 minutes?
That being said, pushing 0.12 ohms and 100 watts demands a high current that stresses even my Sony VTC5s rated for a 30A discharge. That's why safety is so important. If you aren't running a battery that can safely provide the current draw your coils demand, they can easily go into venting and you'd be out of an expensive 18650. Or if your battery doesnt have safety features - kaboom.
If you've been doing it without problems for so long, okay. But I highly suggest you invest in a multimeter so you can check your voltages and resistances so you know for sure what you're getting yourself into.
Assuming your mod puts out a relatively low voltage of 3.5V at 0.12 ohms, you'd be pushing 100Watts through your coil. WHAT!? Running a 0.2 ohm coil gives you about 60 watts of power. Those coils would go through juice faster than I can just dump it out of the bottle. To give you some perspective, I run a 0.4 ohm coil and that gives me just a little over 30 watts, and I have to redrip every 4-5 hits or so. I wouldn't be surprised if you had to redrip after every hit with your coils. How long do your batteries last you, 10 minutes?
That being said, pushing 0.12 ohms and 100 watts demands a high current that stresses even my Sony VTC5s rated for a 30A discharge. That's why safety is so important. If you aren't running a battery that can safely provide the current draw your coils demand, they can easily go into venting and you'd be out of an expensive 18650. Or if your battery doesnt have safety features - kaboom.
If you've been doing it without problems for so long, okay. But I highly suggest you invest in a multimeter so you can check your voltages and resistances so you know for sure what you're getting yourself into.
Where did I ever turn away any advice given to me? Please don't come in here and troll. I've said nothing negative to any advice given me, merely asked counter-questions to further understand.
The current mod I'm using is an authentic Spyrax Hybrid mod, using the same Sony 18650s. Usually, I get about 3 hits for 7 drops of liquid used. I'm sponsored by a few vaping companys, so liquids are really not an issue. Got more than I know what to do with. My main concern is messing up my mod, or my batteries. In my Nzonic v3 with an Omega RDA, I'm running a similar build at .35 ohms, and those have been in there for probably a good 3 weeks now without changing them. Started out at .3 a few weeks ago, after putting them on my ohms tester they're still at .35 and firing amazingly. Just don't see why I seem to be having problems on my hybrid with the same coils I've used on my other pens without any problems ever. I've literally put the coils in a trident, through it on the ohms tester, gotten a good reading, taken them out and put them into my hybrid and still got dry hits. Is it possibly because of the material of the pen? I.E. my Nzonic has brass pins, where as my spyrax has silver. I know silver is a better heat conductor, but this is my first mod that is silver instead of my usual brass. I'll probably pick up a multimeter later today, or tomorrow, but I do have an ohms reader, haha. I haven't just been guessing all this time. Just didn't consider the fact when I got my Hybrid that you can't screw the atty into a normal ohm reader, otherwise I would have definitely picked up a multimeter.
Obviously you're reading what you want to read. You can simply leave. You aren't wanted in here. Like I said, I've tested the ohms on other atomizers before putting them into my hybrid and was wondering why I will dry hit on one mod, but not the other using the same exact coils.
[Deleted. You've only been here a week. I'll give you some slack to figure it out]
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I think people want to assist here... but without knowing your actual coil resistance and battery output voltage, no one can really suggest what's going on.
BTW Digital Multimeters can be found at Walmart for between $10-40... plus Radio Shack, home improvement stores, even auto parts stores... it's really an essential tool for mechanical mods and RBA/RDA users...
BTW Digital Multimeters can be found at Walmart for between $10-40... plus Radio Shack, home improvement stores, even auto parts stores... it's really an essential tool for mechanical mods and RBA/RDA users...
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