Why don't all juice vendors join AEMSA?

[dnutz]

Personally I think what they are doing is awesome. The standards they set are reasonable and I don't get it. Vendors that haven't been certified make me suspicious of what's in their juice or how it is prepared that doesn't meet the standards.

Should we demand all vendors meet some type of standard or should we blindly trust them? I also think this will help with the fight against the FDA.

Don't get me wrong, I still get juice from vendors that are not certified but lately I'm leaning more towards the ones that are since they seem dedicated to harm reduction. I just wish some of my favorite vendors would get certified.

 

[Robino1]

Some of the reasons may be monetarily based. It's expensive for a small vendor. And then you have those that don't agree with all their regulations just on principal. Such as the exclusion of WTA.

I personally have no problem with AEMSA's intent. My vendor is not one of them. I still trust them and will continue to purchase my liquids from them. Please remember that the eliquid industry is a relative new thing. It takes time for vendors to grow enough to actually afford big industrial facilities.

About a year ago, when AEMSA was just starting, there was a whole thread dedicated to this. We saw many divisions in the community for and against what AEMSA was trying to accomplish.

Most of our vendors started out of their homes, some continue to operate out of them. Just because they do does not mean that they are practicing unsafe methods. If there is a vendor that is questionable, alarms will and have been raised in the community. Word of mouth is a powerful thing.

 

[Racehorse]

Most of our vendors started out of their homes, some continue to operate out of them. Just because they do does not mean that they are practicing unsafe methods.

There is a huge mark up on juice. It is not necessary to have a full industrial lab.....there are many setups that require little investment, like an addition or a small building that can be rented with a clean-room mixing facility.

Cottage industries are great, but to me, there is a difference between knitting sweaters for people, and making eliquids that go into a human being's body.

I guess I'm not as lenient as you are, in other words to me, the right professional set up is "the cost of doing business" in this endeavor. Anyone that can't meet that guideline should be running a different kind of business, IMHO.

There are a number of juice vendors who saw the future, coming down the pike, last year and are already on the road to being able to meet stricter requirements. My prediction is that those are the ones who will be left standing, the others will not.

Ecig biz is predicted to grow and profits are in the billions. Making juice in your kitchen is fine.....just stick to doing it for friends, relatives and neighbors. A real business is very different than that.........

 

[dnutz]

Thanks for the responses. I must agree with Racehorse. I'm starting to lean more towards certified vendors because they have invested time, money and effort to abide by the standards. There are some huge vendors that we all know can afford the certification process but they don't do it. This causes me to ask the question why not?