My goal is to get to "0" nicotine as well. I started with 24 mg, now I'm ordering 18 mg.
Why is it all getting so complicated and technical with delivery units?
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I smoked for almost 60 years so take my word for it you would not want to be anywhere close if I didn't have nicotine in my system.
Deep down inside I never wanted to quit smoking ... ever. It just got to the point that I either found an alternative to smoking that worked, or go buy an oxygen tank.
The best PV in my opinion is 'more than one'. You could give me a gold plated Provari, and it would not satisfy my needs if it was the only one that I had. I RYO'ed my cigarettes, probably had 50 different blends of tobacco, also smoked pipes and cigars, why would I think vaping would be any different. Everyone's needs are a little different, and thank God we have choices.
BTW nicotine is a natural substance found in nearly all plant life. So it would be virtually impossible to get down to zero nic without starving to death.
Deep down inside I never wanted to quit smoking ... ever. It just got to the point that I either found an alternative to smoking that worked, or go buy an oxygen tank.
The best PV in my opinion is 'more than one'. You could give me a gold plated Provari, and it would not satisfy my needs if it was the only one that I had. I RYO'ed my cigarettes, probably had 50 different blends of tobacco, also smoked pipes and cigars, why would I think vaping would be any different. Everyone's needs are a little different, and thank God we have choices.
BTW nicotine is a natural substance found in nearly all plant life. So it would be virtually impossible to get down to zero nic without starving to death.
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Now why would anyone have an issue if some one wants to own a $300+ setup, it's their money their choice period.....
My point is how the attitude has changed towards vaping over the last few months....10 months back if a noob was not happy with the performance of his 510 atty, people would have suggested him to give it a break in time(remember even the genesis has a break in time, as Zen mentions in his video) or to blow out the primer from it etc. We were willing to work on our devices because we knew it would keep us off the analogs....Now if a noob complains about his 510 atty, we would advice him to go for carto-tanks then to Vivis and then eventually to genesis and the RBAs, the new comer will always be under the impression, that his perfect vape lay somewhere in the next level....and instead of seeing the bigger picture, which is to staying off the analogs, he is busy running behind that elusive vape which people keep telling him lies just around the next corner. I have been a victim of this myself, and while I was busy moving on to my next new device I got lost and fell off the wagon...I was back to smoking for a couple of weeks, till I regained my senses and adjusted my vape gear to my needs. I have 6 ego batts today and a couple of 510s, still have my 510 attys, egoT attys and the vivis, everytime my newest toy failed to perform, I went back to my previous one, till I mastered the new one. I am in no hurry to move into RBAs but that I have come to know from my own experience, most noobs will never realize this and would soon dump the whole idea of vaping, starting off with the complex devices....
My point is how the attitude has changed towards vaping over the last few months....10 months back if a noob was not happy with the performance of his 510 atty, people would have suggested him to give it a break in time(remember even the genesis has a break in time, as Zen mentions in his video) or to blow out the primer from it etc. We were willing to work on our devices because we knew it would keep us off the analogs....Now if a noob complains about his 510 atty, we would advice him to go for carto-tanks then to Vivis and then eventually to genesis and the RBAs, the new comer will always be under the impression, that his perfect vape lay somewhere in the next level....and instead of seeing the bigger picture, which is to staying off the analogs, he is busy running behind that elusive vape which people keep telling him lies just around the next corner. I have been a victim of this myself, and while I was busy moving on to my next new device I got lost and fell off the wagon...I was back to smoking for a couple of weeks, till I regained my senses and adjusted my vape gear to my needs. I have 6 ego batts today and a couple of 510s, still have my 510 attys, egoT attys and the vivis, everytime my newest toy failed to perform, I went back to my previous one, till I mastered the new one. I am in no hurry to move into RBAs but that I have come to know from my own experience, most noobs will never realize this and would soon dump the whole idea of vaping, starting off with the complex devices....
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As I read your OP I thought, hmmm I wish my first cig look-a-likes had worked longer than a few days. I bought so many extra batteries and brands because one brand or other only last a few hours at most and had to have 6 or 7 batteries charged or charging. So glad it works for you, but didn't for me and many others as you have now been informed. Are these posts helping you understand now?
Vaping nicotine shouldn't be a hobby....why some government agencies want it banned? huh? Care to expound on this? Now I don't understand what YOU are talking about?
Since when do basic units give enough vape? Perhaps for you and a couple other people, maybe? I'm guessing not for the majority of us heavy smokers.
Don't even get me started on some of those pre-filled cartos out there.
I'm fine with my twists too
good point
Exactly.
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this is a big "if". you are assuming that the answer is yes, basic units do give you enough vape. but for many (myself included), the basic units do not even begin to scratch the surface of enough vape. they are highly inadequate by my standards, but we are all different. if all we had were basic units, id be smoking cigarettes. no doubt about it. you are lucky that the basic unit is all you need.
To many people smoking is a hobby, just look at all the fancy lighters, pipes, cases, stands, ash trays and tips. So why should vaping be any different?
oh, and thanks so much for deciding for us what the acceptable hobbies are. care to make a complete list so i may choose, or do you just dole out specific hobbies to different people?
i enjoy how judgemental you are being. it really takes the stress out of making my own life choices.
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It's not gotten silly for everyone. Some folks are just dandy with an 808 and cartos to get off cigarettes, and eventually drop nic. Some people get into the tech side and go variable and use RBAs. Some people want to get off nicotine, some just want off cigarettes. Some people keep vaping even after they've dropped to 0 nic because they enjoy vaping!
I hear there's people who like to sample coffees from around the world, spending thousands (yes, thousands) on specially designed coffee grinders, and even more on coffee machines. I don't understand it, but it doesn't bother me if that's what they want to do. I won't tell them that coffee is addictive and that they should hit decaf one day to kick their habit.
Not everyone is going gung ho and getting all the latest feeds/PVs, but just like the coffee people, it doesn't bother me if they choose to.
If you're happy with an 808 and carto that's great! What does it matter to you if someone wants a 200$ RBA to put on their 300$ PV?
I hear there's people who like to sample coffees from around the world, spending thousands (yes, thousands) on specially designed coffee grinders, and even more on coffee machines. I don't understand it, but it doesn't bother me if that's what they want to do. I won't tell them that coffee is addictive and that they should hit decaf one day to kick their habit.
Not everyone is going gung ho and getting all the latest feeds/PVs, but just like the coffee people, it doesn't bother me if they choose to.
If you're happy with an 808 and carto that's great! What does it matter to you if someone wants a 200$ RBA to put on their 300$ PV?
Hi Kemosabe...I do not mean to argue your point, please do not misunderstand my post....this is how I have read the Op's post...I think what he meant was, vaping can be treated more as a safer alternative to nicotine addiction, and not termed as a Hobby, he does have a point there. For me the part of vaping which transformed into a hobby could be collecting different batteries or attys the new cooler looking devices out there, (like I have recently fell for the e-roll)
and for many building their attys etc...it is nice that our collectibles are functional...when I was smoking I loved collecting different lighters and their pouches and even tried different brands of cigs in its thicker and slimmer varieties, but I'm sure I can never call smoking to be a hobby....It would also seem weird if I include vaping in the hobby section of my "resume" beside reading and music...I also think what the OP means here is, by terming this addiction overcoming process a "hobby" we could be attracting the youngsters and non-smokers towards this, thus the ban he talks about.
Whoa! Smokers are just "units", to be addicted by any means, precisely because "some government agencies" work with big tobacco and big pharma to ensure ongoing profit for all concerned and to heck with your health. Nicotine is not the danger here, its addictive but it won't kill ya. The other hundreds of chemicals input to tobacco ARE addictive and WILL kill ya. The vaping industry is evolving at the speed of light, and therefore the selection of devices now available to help people get off the arsenic, anti-depressants et al in any way they find MOST effective is a huge step forward. If you are an ex-smoker and you have found the perfect setup to keep you away from the real dangers of all the crap in BT burning tobacco that is wonderful and we all applaud you. If however, you feel the there's something still "not quite there" to keep away from cigarettes then thank goodness there ARE constantly more choices being created in both hardware and juice choices to make it so.
I just want to know who gives him the authority to tell us vaping shouldn't be a hobby. Who made him god?
You make many fine points, Souvik. There are some posters here who just cannot be happy if someone says they are happy with their 510, when from what I've read it wasn't that long ago that everyone thought the 510 was the shiznit. For some, it still is. It serves the purpose. For others, they are always seeking something better. But for the vast majority of us, we really think it's ALL good. We're just happy someone has found something to keep them away from the cigs (if that's their goal).
Not everyone has crazy setups. I have just my lone buzzpro. I started with egos, moved up to an epower and now I'm where I am. All my decisions for buying everything are driven entirely by trying to get better performance.
The egos worked decently, but I was killing batteries all the time - especially with LR stuff. Moved up to the epower, battery lasted but the non-regulated power was anemic after a few hours. Moved to the buzzpro, battery lasts me a day and a half and the first vape is always like the last. I've had my buzz for over a year now and haven't bought another mod yet.
My carto/atty/juice purchases fall under the same thinking too. I almost never order the same thing twice unless I'm in a time crunch, mainly because I still haven't found that magic piece of equipment that is up to par with what I want it to be. I don't have the money to order tons of stuff, so I'll usually tough it out for a few weeks with my latest purchase. I also don't have a "vaping junk drawer" like I'm sure a lot of people do, I use almost everything I buy.
The egos worked decently, but I was killing batteries all the time - especially with LR stuff. Moved up to the epower, battery lasted but the non-regulated power was anemic after a few hours. Moved to the buzzpro, battery lasts me a day and a half and the first vape is always like the last. I've had my buzz for over a year now and haven't bought another mod yet.
My carto/atty/juice purchases fall under the same thinking too. I almost never order the same thing twice unless I'm in a time crunch, mainly because I still haven't found that magic piece of equipment that is up to par with what I want it to be. I don't have the money to order tons of stuff, so I'll usually tough it out for a few weeks with my latest purchase. I also don't have a "vaping junk drawer" like I'm sure a lot of people do, I use almost everything I buy.
I know people with a ciglike vape who are perfectly satisfied and would never consider spending $30 on a VV eGo-style battery, let alone haul around something that huge.
I know other people (like myself) who want the newest and best, and make a hobby out of vaping as much as anything.
Both are valid ways of enjoying vaping, and there's nothing wrong with either. While a small battery with cartomizers might be perfect for one person, another could be always chasing the new shiny batteries...and that's great too.
Whatever keeps you off smoking.
I know other people (like myself) who want the newest and best, and make a hobby out of vaping as much as anything.
Both are valid ways of enjoying vaping, and there's nothing wrong with either. While a small battery with cartomizers might be perfect for one person, another could be always chasing the new shiny batteries...and that's great too.
Whatever keeps you off smoking.
Hobby? Maybe....it's all getting "complicated and technical" because we have some very innovative people in our vaping community and my hat's off to them. We've come a long way in my 3+ years of vaping and thank goodness. When one device isn't working well, someone designs a better one and so on. It is no different than buying the new Galaxy blah blah when the HTC blah blah works ok. We have so many choices now that didn't exist before. So we upgrade, so we collect, so we vape, it's all good.
Frankly fishtaco, I don't GAS what you think!
Frankly Iffy, Everyone has their own opinions and there isn't any reason to be rude.
it's about options and flavors. I used to smoke Marlboro reds and sometimes lights. I would also smoke newports and camels every once in a while to change up the taste. it just depends on what you like.
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