Why no user upgradable firmware?
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Oh, No tears from me...I see someone has run out of arguments. That's okay, it happens to the best. Don't cry, you'll do better next time
I'll save further discussion with you for a face to face meeting.
See you at Vapercon?
Kewl, Jim
No, I just think that silliness is best discussed at a table with other wise vapors to pass judgement on this stupid point that you continue to try and make.
Verstehen?
Verstehen?
Ah, I see. Like a counsel of wise vapers who are self proclaimed authorities on the subject. In that case, of course I'll travel all the way from The Netherlands to the US to discuss this face to face!
Anyway, you have yet to give a single argument why Provapes way is better. Like I said before, millions of devices have their firmware updated every day without getting bricked, and even an inferior Chinese manufacturer offers user upgradable firmware, so why not Provape? The only reason I've heard so far is because of the warranty. Well, if Provape is concerned about P3's getting bricked, the design of the P3 isn't all that great.
Anyway, you have yet to give a single argument why Provapes way is better. Like I said before, millions of devices have their firmware updated every day without getting bricked, and even an inferior Chinese manufacturer offers user upgradable firmware, so why not Provape? The only reason I've heard so far is because of the warranty. Well, if Provape is concerned about P3's getting bricked, the design of the P3 isn't all that great.
I'll give you one ... you seem to have missed it earlier with your obsessive ProVape hate.
what happens if you drop the user upgradeable Chinese mod into water?
does that just kill the upgrade or does it kill the Chinese mod too?
If I give it enough time to completely dry, I imagine nothing. That's happened to me in the past with other mods and they continued to work. But what does that have to do with anything? The battery connection on the board isn't sealed and that's how the ProVari programmer makes contact with the board. And yes, I have missed the post about this so I'd appreciate it if you could explain it again.
I've never seen a USB device of any kind survive falling into water ... you say that you have had that happen with several devices ... which ones would they be?
Lem - I'm not sure why you care all that much what a company does or doesn't do. Either buy it or don't.
I've never upgraded my SX Mini, nor do I plan to. It vapes fine - exactly what I wanted when I bought it. Point being, everybody's different and I couldn't care less about what someone else does, thinks or feels. I buy what I want, when I want it, and for reasons that are only important to me.
If YOU chose to vape on one of those ....-ugly Deviate things, I wouldn't spend an inch telling you why you shouldn't. I'd say, "Have fun with that, and I hope you like it." WT---F do I care?
And in this case, what do YOU care? Don't buy a P3. I didn't. Certainly not for the same reasons YOU might cite, but who cares about THAT either?
And remember; decaf can sometimes be a marvelous addition to one's repertoire.
I've never upgraded my SX Mini, nor do I plan to. It vapes fine - exactly what I wanted when I bought it. Point being, everybody's different and I couldn't care less about what someone else does, thinks or feels. I buy what I want, when I want it, and for reasons that are only important to me.
If YOU chose to vape on one of those ....-ugly Deviate things, I wouldn't spend an inch telling you why you shouldn't. I'd say, "Have fun with that, and I hope you like it." WT---F do I care?
And in this case, what do YOU care? Don't buy a P3. I didn't. Certainly not for the same reasons YOU might cite, but who cares about THAT either?
And remember; decaf can sometimes be a marvelous addition to one's repertoire.
The Vamo (lol), the ProVari 2.5 and the rDNA30. I don't have the Vamo anymore but the 2.5 and rDNA30 still work just fine. One of my girlfriends even dropped her Nexus 7 tablet in the water (it was turned off when it happened). She opened it up, dismantled it, let it dry for a couple of days and after screwing it back together it booted up and she still uses it.
I started the thread because I was curious if there is a technical reason why Provape chose this method. Since then the thread has derailed (I'm also to blame for that) but I still haven't read of any technical limitation or design that prevented Provape from offering user upgradable firmware for the P3.
Fair enough - and thank you. Even with all that though, why care?
When I first saw the "commercial" video, I thought, "Wowwwwww!" Then I waited, assessed/watched/thought, and then decided that it wasn't bringing enough to the table - for ME.
End result? NO issue. I still love my 2.5's and will probably never get rid of them. And I'm still a HUGE ProVape fan. Couldn't care less about the P3, but may fall head-over-heels when their next device comes out (who knows?).
I've bought (cough) "a few" other mods since the P3 came out, and will probably buy at least one more
. But bash them, or call them names? For what? They're a good company. Strike that - they're a GREAT company. The fact that I have no interest in their latest offering has no bearing on those facts whatsoever.
There are a bunch of companies I really like, just by the way. And I don't own everything any of them have ever put out either.
To paraphrase Al Davis, "Just vape, bay-bee."
Features. Vapers love features.
They do nothing for me. I don't vape features.
SX is a great vape. So are Provi 2.5's. So are a BUNCH of other things I have today. Even my silly little Cool Fire 4 gives a great vape.
Times have changed since I started vaping, when Provari stood (almost) alone in that regard. Taking absolutely nothing from them though, and just try to pry my Ti or GMZ from possession. Wear body armor if so (you've been warned).
I think the current test version which adds support for Titanium wire is actually the 6th update. I didn't buy the SX Mini when it was released so it's my 4th update. The reason for the updates is the same as with the P3 (which has had 4 firmware updates), to squash bugs and add features.
Well , it's been just shy of two weeks and Provape hasn't answered your question Lemwize. I can't understand it, I mean you've been so civil and respectful and all. Maybe they do things the way they choose for no other reason than it's how they want it done. They don't owe anyone an explanation for that. Don't like it, don't buy it.
Lemwise, I apologize for not reading all your posts in this thread, but I am curious about something.
Did you actually contact Provape and ask them for their reasons why they do not offer user upgradable firmware?
Did you actually contact Provape and ask them for their reasons why they do not offer user upgradable firmware?
And it brings in more money because they get to sell the ProVari programmer for 200 bucks a piece. And if they want to go back in time with this ancient way of updating, that's their right. It's so old fashioned it's not even funny anymore, but they can do whatever they want.
Yes, I did. But I didn't get an answer.
I doubt we even see another P3 update ... I think the last update was to iron out a few bugs and drop it to .5 ohm
I think ProVape knew it was close to being complete ... and now it is.
I would be surprised if the P3 changed from where it is now.
And ... I would not be surprised if we don't see a P4 for a few years
I think ProVape knew it was close to being complete ... and now it is.
I would be surprised if the P3 changed from where it is now.
And ... I would not be surprised if we don't see a P4 for a few years
Welp, perhaps you will (get a reply).
And good luck to you.
Do you have that mod... shoot, can't recall the name of it.
(DPL, help..... that skinned thing that was waterproof that you liked for about 27 seconds?)
And good luck to you.
Do you have that mod... shoot, can't recall the name of it.
(DPL, help..... that skinned thing that was waterproof that you liked for about 27 seconds?)
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