Will other cartomizers work with KR808D-1?

[sirrix]

I'm new to this forum and I've been trying to decide which e-cig to buy. I think I'm going to go with a cartomizer because I don't smoke too much (I've been weaning to quit for a while and just need that little extra help) and I don't want to hassle too much with filling the cartridges.

I've decided to go with a KR808D-1 and there's obviously a big-name site where they sell them, but I've been reading that their cartomizers aren't that great. I'm wondering - can I buy other cartomizers from other sites? I smoke menthols and there is a lot of chatter here on ECF about a particular brand (that begins with an "H") that sells a great menthol liquid. I see that they also sell cartomizers and am wondering if they'll fit. There doesn't appear to be any info on either site though it seems that there is the correct male/female line-up.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[sirrix]

Or do those cartomizers work with the 510 models? I guess I'm just confused as to whether you can use cartomizers with any battery system - it seems like you can, but the overall review that I read for new users made it seem like cartomizers for the 510 models weren't an option.

 

[markfm]

KR808D-1 is a standard -- if a vendor sells a cartomizer that is called a KR808D-1 it should fit any KR808D-1 battery.
There are multiple good 808 sellers. I've used NHaler, vapor4life, vaporsetc personally, good follow-on customer service, and other ECF suppliers should be solid. You can buy a VaporKing kit from vapor4life, then put on an 808 carto from Joe's 808-shack and it should be fine.
You can also buy blanks (empty cartos) from many places, fill them yourself with juice acquired wherever. Right now I'm using NHaler 2 ml Jumbo cartos on a passthrough, really like them a lot, and 2.6 ohm cartos from vaporsetc, have had positive experience with vapor4life cartos too.

A 510 carto is a different connector standard, different diameter and the threads are on the outside of the carto vs the inside (510 carto is a male connector, while 808 is female receptacle). I use vaporsetc 2.6 ohm808 cartos on a Riva 510 battery, but with a little adapter (from Goodprophets). If I want native 510 cartos, I've really liked the boge 2 ohm 510 cartos, just a personal preference.

 

[niko69]

no, 808 catomizers will not work on 510...

 

[Stosh]

The vendors I usually frequent will break down their carto stock by model / thread type. Any 808 carto should work. Here's a couple links that display the goods very well.

FreedomSmokeUSA

All Cartomizers

 

[sirrix]

I don't know the rules about posting specific brands but I'm looking at the Halo Methol Ice cartos and I don't know what machines they will attach to. It seems like they will go on 510s but I'm not sure and their website doesn't really reveal much detail... Does anyone know?

 

[Free2BeMe]

KR808D-1 is a standard -- if a vendor sells a cartomizer that is called a KR808D-1 it should fit any KR808D-1 battery.
There are multiple good 808 sellers. I've used NHaler, vapor4life, vaporsetc personally, good follow-on customer service, and other ECF suppliers should be solid. You can buy a VaporKing kit from vapor4life, then put on an 808 carto from Joe's 808-shack and it should be fine.
You can also buy blanks (empty cartos) from many places, fill them yourself with juice acquired wherever. Right now I'm using NHaler 2 ml Jumbo cartos on a passthrough, really like them a lot, and 2.6 ohm cartos from vaporsetc, have had positive experience with vapor4life cartos too.

A 510 carto is a different connector standard, different diameter and the threads are on the outside of the carto vs the inside (510 carto is a male connector, while 808 is female receptacle). I use vaporsetc 2.6 ohm808 cartos on a Riva 510 battery, but with a little adapter (from Goodprophets). If I want native 510 cartos, I've really liked the boge 2 ohm 510 cartos, just a personal preference.

This might be stupid because you may have already said this...(I'm new)

At Vape4life will those carts work with the 808? I just went there and loved some of the flavors and wanted to order some. I have the 808.

By the way...are we not allowed to say names of sites and stuff here? Thanks!

 

[sirrix]

But I can use 510 cartos on any 510 battery, correct? I only ask because there was a lengthy guide posted here where the author listed 510s under one of the better 3-piece (batt/atty/cart) e-cigs and he listed the 808 under 2-piece (batt/carto). It appears to me, though, that one can use any compatible battery with any compatible cartomizer or atomizer/cart combo. Is that right?

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

Excellent advice, markfm! Thanks especially for the information about Vapors Etc.'s 2.4 ohm cartos. I see they also have ~2.0 ohm cartomizers.

[For the information of newer vapers: The original Kr8 cartomizers were about 3.0 ohm resistance. Most of the newer ones are less than that. The lower the resistance, the greater the intensity of the vape, e.g., more vapor and TH. But, if you push it too far, you can burn out the atomizer.]

I also have been reading good things about Bloog's new MaxX Fusion cartomizers (and batteries). Cartomizer master, Leaford (American working in Shenzhen, China), shepherded the development of them and of the Vapor4Life Premium and WOW cartos when he was with that company.

 

[Stosh]

I don't know the rules about posting specific brands but I'm looking at the Halo Methol Ice cartos and I don't know what machines they will attach to. It seems like they will go on 510s but I'm not sure and their website doesn't really reveal much detail... Does anyone know?

Easy way out, click on "Contact Us" on the website and ask..

And mentioning any brand good or bad is absolutly allowed, you will find reviews and
discussion on the pros and cons of many products on ECF. The forum registered
suppliers are confident enough in their products and service (Halo is one of them)

 

[sirrix]

But I'm still confused about the resistance levels you're talking about. If I buy a 501 battery from rockymountain let's say, can I use any of these Cartos, regardless of its resistance? In other words, if a cartomizer fits in a battery, is it going to work? I would like to buy the Halo menthol ice cartos but am not certain which battery to buy to have it fit. (They sell their own machine but it isn't extensively rated on ECF and it's expensive.)

 

[markfm]

Yes, vapor4life's cartos are all KR808D-1, will fit any KR808D-1 battery.

In the 510 area, a 510 carto will fit any 510, including Riva 510 and eGo (which are two big-battery 510 connector PVs.)

510 as a 3 piece and 808 as a 2 piece is historical, how the two PV families started, were targeted. A 510 kit normally comes with an atomizer and starter cartridges, but you can absolutely choose to use a 510 cartomizer, making it a 2-piece. Likewise the 808 kits come with cartomizers, but you can directly attach a 901 atomizer and cartridges (the 901 is yet another PV, similar to an 808 in voltage and battery threading).

808 and 510 are the big gorillas best I can tell in terms of general popularity, particularly for newer people. 808's advantage is you can buy prefilled cartos, the standard and XLor Mega batteries have decent life, and normal 3 ohm 808 cartos have good warmth and vapor production, making for an extremely easy intro to vaping. That said, the current Riva pricing is really sweet, and if you don't mind a non-cig-looking battery or that it has a push button (it is a manual), they are quite attractive.

I'm a carto person, and like warmth, so the 2 ohm cartos on a Riva work well for me, though I also am pretty happy with the lower ohm vaporsetc cartos on a Riva using an adapter.

It's fine to post vendor names in the non-vendor-specific forums. It's just bad form, say, to post about NHaler products in the vapor4life subforum.

As to Halo, I'm pretty sure they also sell their juice separately. You would be fine buying a 510 or an 808 with cartos from anywhere (510 cartos for a 510, 808 cartos for an 808), then loading the cartos with the Halo liquid. Just match carto to battery type.

Concerning resistance, lower resistance = warmer, more vapor, stronger throat hit. Personally I use 2 ohms on a big battery Riva 510, have tried 1.8 ohm cartos though they run too warm. There are multiple threads on resistance -- I wouldn't myself go much below 2 ohms on my Riva 510 equipment, though others have done so; at low resistance you run the risk of early equipment failure.

(It is all relative at some point. I live in NY, home of $10 a pack cigarettes. While a battery nominally lasts six months or more, if I use one up every couple of weeks it is still much cheaper than smoking ever was.)

 

[sirrix]

but you can absolutely choose to use a 510 cartomizer, making it a 2-piece. Likewise the 808 kits come with cartomizers, but you can directly attach a 901 atomizer and cartridges

markfm, thanks for the info on this. You say right below that though that one of the advantages of the 808s is that you can buy pre-filled cartos. However, the ones I'm looking at are at Menthol Ice Cartomizers - they seem to be 510 pre-filled cartos. Does that seem right? I've emailed the company and asked if they are compatible with 510s. Would this be the first time that you're seeing pre-filled 510 cartos?

 

[sirrix]

BTW just got a response from the company - their cartos fit a standard 510 battery. Thanks for all your help, guys.

 

[markfm]

510 cartos have only recently started to gain more popularity, so prefilled might be coming out.

The downside with prefilled is some inconsistency. If you get a bad fill or old stock they are not so hot. Just bought 5 packs for a friend, 3 were bad; vendor made good by sending an ounce of the juice desired, a positive result.

Those look like 510, but you need halo to confirm. Alternately, menthol ice is available on their liquid page, you can fill your own.

 

[CapHillDC]

I have had trouble with the mega cartomizers working with my MVS 808 batteries because there is no air flow. They work on my elegant and my pigcig because the battery contact is slotted.

 

[markfm]

I haven't used the mega 808, just NHaler's Jumbo 808, on both manual and auto PT. Only one I've had an issue with was a G400 carto on one of those two types of PT. G400 batt has worked with all 808 cartos, just not the other way around.