deback - the reason I started doing this is cause the first few cartos that I boiled didn't seem to work any better than the ones that I soaked after running water thru and blowing them out - I have so many cartos at this point that I can afford to leave them in water but I did forget to mention that when I decide to re-use a few I'll pull them from the water, blow them out one more time and stand them up on a paper towel to dry for 2 or 3 days before re-filling - a couple months ago, when I needed a carto right away, I put a rubber cap over the open mouth end and spun the water out - the centrifugal (sp) force pulled all the moisture out and was able to fill w/juice right away....worked great! - I've watched a couple vids showing how to seperate the housing from the threaded end of the carto - at that point you can remove the atty and filler, unwind the filler, rinse it out, thread it back thru the wires, roll it up and re-insert it into the housing....enjoyed watching someone do that....just not for me!!
Will these cartomizers work?
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Hmmm, well, I can't imagine vaping from a cartomizer that's been sitting in standing water for any length of time, especially if the excess water has only been blown out (or even spun out using an old sock or bag, which doesn't remove all the moisture, by the way), and the filler is still damp or soggy with that old water. I might be able to take a bath in old, standing water (as long as it's warm enough), but I sure wouldn't inhale it!
Sorry, but in my case, I'll only refill cartomizers that have been cleaned (using only clean, fresh water), flushed of all excess water, and dried completely and as quickly as possible (as in, using a fan, not just letting them air dry on a paper towel, which would take much longer and have more of a chance of mildew forming inside the carto).
Yea, I saw Shan's video and decided spending tons of time trying to loosen the threaded end of the carto from the casing was not for me. If there was a much quicker way to remove that part from the casing, I'd be interested. But time is money for me, especially during tax season, when I'll be too busy to even refill cartomizers -- or vape very often.
deback - I know from your post that your're a "my way or the highway" kinda guy and BTW, mildew doesn't form in 24 or 48 hours and it does the carto no harm to leave it submerged - I only remove a couple when I need em, blow them out one more time, as mentioned, let them dry for a day or so and fill em up - I definately know the difference and these, unless they're defective, vape like champs - and finally, I don't fill wet cartos!
Actually, I'm not either - a "my way type" or a "guy."
From your original message, it sounded like you leave your cartos in water all the time (as in, the same water for a long time). I'm assuming then that you change the water every day or two? I don't care that you leave them in water, but it doesn't make sense to me to do that. Guess I'm just a common-sense type of person. I'll clean all cartos that need to be cleaned at the same time (soak, flush, blow, and dry in front of a fan for 3 days or more). Then when I want to fill them, they're all dry and ready to fill, and plenty of air can flow through the fillers.
Also, just blowing out excess water still leaves the filler very damp with water. I did an experiment (so that I would have the fact and not just an opinion) with a defective carto, pulled out the filler, wet it real good, squeezed it little, put it back into the carto, placed it in front of a fan for 2½ days, and after that length of time, the filler was still damp. So I've estimated (based on a real live experiment) that it takes about 3½ days or so to completely dry the filler inside a carto. The polyfil (that's on the outside of the innards) will dry fairly quickly, but the heavier material in the center that's rolled around the wires takes the longest to dry.
Hey deback - You may be right - the very center of some of the cartos that I've cleaned and left to dry may still have a little moisture deep within the filler (BTW, I do change the water every 2 days) -the only thing I can figure is that when I refilled them and vaped @ 6v, the moisture very quickly mixed w/juice and was atomized away - I'd be willing to give the fan a try or possibly a hair dryer on medium heat?? - sounds like you leave the fan on continuously for several days - was thinking maybe a hair dryer might speed the process or possibly hot air is not a good idea - anyway, this all may become moot if the E2R4 cartos prove to be a superior upgrade - how do you feel about these??
Hair dryers should work (most have cool/warm/hot settings), but I don't wanna waste time sitting or standing there holding a blow dryer. Yea, I keep the fan running for about 3 1/2 days, but I don't flush out cartos that often, so it's no big deal to me. Helps clear out the clouds of vapor in my bedroom, too.
I haven't tried the new e2r4 cartos and haven't even checked them out yet. Maybe one of these days, I will...
I've used carto's that were still very slightly moist after cleaning and had no problem with either flavor or vapor production. If I can blow on them and only get a couple tiny bubbles, they are dry enough IMO and worked perfectly fine. I used 99% rubbing alcohol and let them soak for about 6 hours, then removed them and put them in water for another 6 hours. Took them out, blew them out as best I could, and let them sit for a day or two.
I only do this because I am using the Joye 510 carto's that don't come apart, so there is very little room for good airflow to use a blow dryer or anything. I have some Boge soft caps arriving today however so those should hopefully be easier to clean out.
I only do this because I am using the Joye 510 carto's that don't come apart, so there is very little room for good airflow to use a blow dryer or anything. I have some Boge soft caps arriving today however so those should hopefully be easier to clean out.
vivictus - I believe deback has a post for cleaning 510 cartos using a modified coke or plastic juice bottle - maybe he'll chime in here and direct you to that thread location.
The Boge cartos are easy to clean using the method in one of my blogs, accessible over at the left under my avatar.
The reason I let my cartos dry for 3 1/2 days or longer is:
To make sure they're completely dry; it takes a long time for the filler inside to dry thoroughly.
If the filler is still wet, you will get little or no vapor, due to the weight of the water inside the filler, allowing no air to flow through the filler.
Vaping with moist or wet fillers is a miserable experience. There's a current thread about someone who didn't let her fillers dry enough:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartomizer-issues/136691-problem-808-carts-i-cleaned.html
No, I've never used a modified coke or plastic juice bottle. I've only used the method described in my blog, accessible at the left under my avatar. I did use boiling water once, and the boiling water shrunk the fillers by at least 1/3 and degraded the performance, so I quit using water that's that hot.
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