Wire Gauge for Mods

[nick76]

To me the Solid 26-28G is good, it's alot easier to use in a small, precise mods. I wouldn't worry the effect cause by its size since on the factory 510's atts and 401's atts use those 28-30G wire anyway, there's a bottle-neck, larger wire wouldn't make a different thus harder to put together.

Nick

 

[Nuck]

To me the Solid 26-28G is good, it's alot easier to use in a small, precise mods. I wouldn't worry the effect cause by its size since on the factory 510's atts and 401's atts use those 28-30G wire anyway, there's a bottle-neck, larger wire wouldn't make a different thus harder to put together.

Nick

Yeah..I got the 26 gauge in and it's still very nice to work with. I think I'll use that as my standard for modding.

 

[cpcp68]

the choice should be based on amperage capacity and resistance/ft. the latter is not an issue for the lengths we use.

here is a good reference table that shows the max recommended amps. note that it states that amperage may be higher for stranded wire.

Wire-Gauge Ampacity - Transwiki

 

[Pendarus]

Thanks for the info!

 

[thomas0407]

Whoooo 8 gauge aught to start your car!!!!!!

 

[SEB]

I'm using only 535mcm or 750mcm with a PT





Seriously 26awg or 24 awg, stranded or solid, is the way to go

 

[Dave Rickey]

I've pretty much been sticking to 26 solid for most applications, although I've got some heavy-duty 18gauge in the current pipe models, it's more for mechanical strength than electrical performance. Solid is just so much easier to reliably solder in tight quarters. And I will use 30 solid for LED's to save space (and make it even easier to deal with tight spaces, as the LED placement tends to be touchy).

--Dave

 

[richardf]

I use 24 GA stranded wire, it has less resistance for the same gauge. Solid wire will break off at the solder points easier too.
Congtrats to your Saints Pend. Well deserved win. My Colts didn't play very well.
Richard

 

[OH Tommy]

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Handbook of Electronic Tables and Formulas for American Wire Gauge


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[marlboro_man]

I think it also depends on your soldering skills if your just starting out and are still developing then I recomend using stranded wire rather than solid

1,Solid Wire.. requires exacting skills on soldering and position forming in box

2. Stranded Wire.. tinning the ends (not twisted or semi loose) may be easier for a novice to start with.and not so exacting positioning in box as it can be moved around easier

All this is IMHO

Art

 

[jxmiller]

Sort of off topic but I was looking for a stiff wire that can be bent with needle nose pliers or the like but not so much by hand. Old style coat hangers seem to be stiff enough but they are quite large. What I am looking for would conduct electricity well (without heating) and be smaller in gauge than coat hanger wire. Ideally the smaller the better.I wish I had a "stiffness" rating... probably some sort of fancy way of measuring that... torsion ? Not sure.

I am trying to make an easy to do wire mod for an 18650 while I am still brainstorming on a big, more complex mod. I think I could use a wire of this nature in the big mod as well. Thanks for any assistance here.

 

[magus7091]

I use 24ga stranded. It works wonderfully for me.

 

[OH Tommy]

Sort of off topic but I was looking for a stiff wire that can be bent with needle nose pliers or the like but not so much by hand . . . Thanks for any assistance here.

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Maybe piano wire? We use it in building model airplanes. It comes in quite a variety of sizes. If you don't have a local hobby shop, you could check out the selection online at Tower Hobbies or Omni Models and get some ideas.

Good Luck.

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[marlboro_man]

Sort of off topic but I was looking for a stiff wire that can be bent with needle nose pliers or the like but not so much by hand. Old style coat hangers seem to be stiff enough but they are quite large. What I am looking for would conduct electricity well (without heating) and be smaller in gauge than coat hanger wire. Ideally the smaller the better.I wish I had a "stiffness" rating... probably some sort of fancy way of measuring that... torsion ? Not sure.

I am trying to make an easy to do wire mod for an 18650 while I am still brainstorming on a big, more complex mod. I think I could use a wire of this nature in the big mod as well. Thanks for any assistance here.

There is a thinner coat hanger (old type) dry cleaners use them I always have some in my truck good for all sorts of stuff,there about 14 swg =
SWG inches mm
140.0802.032

or 1) 8 swg = 4.06 mm : 2) 10 swg = 3.25 mm : 3) 12 swg = 2.64 mm : 4) 14 swg = 2.03 mm : 5) 16 swg = 1.63 mm : 6) 18 swg = 1.22 mm : 7) 20 swg ... UK

or there is a larger paper clip size 16 swg approx. 3" in length,,, so stretched out would be 12" ish. the wire used is malleable and bright colour coated

I dont know where you are locally so I assume USA or UK ???

 

[jxmiller]

There is a thinner coat hanger (old type) dry cleaners use them I always have some in my truck good for all sorts of stuff,there about 14 swg =
SWG inches mm
140.0802.032

or 1) 8 swg = 4.06 mm : 2) 10 swg = 3.25 mm : 3) 12 swg = 2.64 mm : 4) 14 swg = 2.03 mm : 5) 16 swg = 1.63 mm : 6) 18 swg = 1.22 mm : 7) 20 swg ... UK

or there is a larger paper clip size 16 swg approx. 3" in length,,, so stretched out would be 12" ish. the wire used is malleable and bright colour coated

I dont know where you are locally so I assume USA or UK ???

USA and thanks for the reply. Larger paper clip sounds interesting but it all depends on the conductivity of the metals used. I was thinking something that had some copper in it... thought about trying some romex (not sure of exact name... just household electrical wire) ... but it is a bit thick.

 

[marlboro_man]

USA and thanks for the reply. Larger paper clip sounds interesting but it all depends on the conductivity of the metals used. I was thinking something that had some copper in it... thought about trying some romex (not sure of exact name... just household electrical wire) ... but it is a bit thick.

Well it was you who mentioned a coat hanger, so I was going with that,I dont think it has any copper in it though??? hehe

so you want something like a coat hanger or was that just the wire dimension or swg size (with connectivity and malleable) to be able to bend with needle nose pliers but not with weak fingers,, I suppose to preform the shape of wire to the actual contact solder points Yeah??


well there are many different coat hangers as I pointed out

The extra large paper clip ?? dont think that has copper in it either>>??

What application is this devise to be used for? as you mentioned off topic?

I thought you where working as a mcgyvver /scounger looking for anything household / dumpster /skip (UK) handy?

If you have the ability to go shopping then go to Radio shack and have a browse around


Art

edit Just a thought can you get 1mm or 1.25mm single core insulated wire or even 2.5mm sc ins wire we use that for 220v mains wiring here the uk... USA is 110v mains electrical house wiring yeah?

If you can get that it will serve your purpose perfectly I have a truck load here hehe!! shame your over the pond M8

I do belive your stove's USA.. use 220v/240v is that single strand wire//or twisted? or is it 2 phase 2x100v?

Art

 

[jxmiller]

Well it was you who mentioned a coat hanger, so I was going with that,I dont think it has any copper in it though??? hehe

so you want something like a coat hanger or was that just the wire dimension or swg size (with connectivity and malleable) to be able to bend with needle nose pliers but not with weak fingers,, I suppose to preform the shape of wire to the actual contact solder points Yeah??


well there are many different coat hangers as I pointed out

The extra large paper clip ?? dont think that has copper in it either>>??

What application is this devise to be used for? as you mentioned off topic?

I thought you where working as a mcgyvver /scounger looking for anything household / dumpster /skip (UK) handy?

If you have the ability to go shopping then go to Radio shack and have a browse around


Art

edit Just a thought can you get 1mm or 1.25mm single core insulated wire or even 2.5mm sc ins wire we use that for 220v mains wiring here the uk... USA is 110v mains electrical house wiring yeah?

If you can get that it will serve your purpose perfectly I have a truck load here hehe!! shame your over the pond M8

I do belive your stove's USA.. use 220v/240v is that single strand wire//or twisted? or is it 2 phase 2x100v?

Art

I am using a stranded wire right now that I cut from a 12V power supply. Very flimsy wire (sheathed). I use basic clear tape to tape each wire to each end of an 18650 then wrap the wire around the battery tightly. I then use some more tape to hold the wrapped wire. I took one end of a wire and twisted and manipulated it by hand so that it is almost the same size as the hole on the battery end of a 901 atomizer. I stick the atomizer on this wire and it fits snug and rarely comes off. I then have the other wire in near proximity to the battery connection. When I want to vape I touch the loose wire to the outer connection of the atomizer... works perfectly. The only downside is that I have to take the tape off and tape again a new battery which I have got really fast at (about 1.5 minutes). I would like to instead for a wire coil that a battery can slide into so I do not have to worry about tape. Hence me looking for a wire that has low malleability (stiff, hard) so I can form something of this nature. I have some interesting copper torsion springs here... they are far too small to use for this but they have the property and size I am looking for. It has the ability to be bent by hand but it goes back to its original shape... I believe it is a mix of copper and some other metal... Ideally I could form something with some pliers and other tools such that I could bend back one end of this wire tube and slide a battery in and let go to have the end I bent back clasp back down on the battery. Then have the atomizer connection sort of the same way such that a sort of "T" shaped end could be depress, atomizer slid over, released, and the tension would hold the atomizer on. This would allow any size atomizer I suppose but for my purpose I only use 901. It's not exactly easy to explain but I hope that reveals the goal of why I am looking for "tension wire" as I will call it for now.

After the bare wire seems to work, then I can cover it in silicone.. I have quite a bit laying around here (uncured for molds).

 

[marlboro_man]

I am using a stranded wire right now that I cut from a 12V power supply. Very flimsy wire (sheathed). I use basic clear tape to tape each wire to each end of an 18650 then wrap the wire around the battery tightly. I then use some more tape to hold the wrapped wire. I took one end of a wire and twisted and manipulated it by hand so that it is almost the same size as the hole on the battery end of a 901 atomizer. I stick the atomizer on this wire and it fits snug and rarely comes off. I then have the other wire in near proximity to the battery connection. When I want to vape I touch the loose wire to the outer connection of the atomizer... works perfectly. The only downside is that I have to take the tape off and tape again a new battery which I have got really fast at (about 1.5 minutes). I would like to instead for a wire coil that a battery can slide into so I do not have to worry about tape. Hence me looking for a wire that has low malleability (stiff, hard) so I can form something of this nature. I have some interesting copper torsion springs here... they are far too small to use for this but they have the property and size I am looking for. It has the ability to be bent by hand but it goes back to its original shape... I believe it is a mix of copper and some other metal... Ideally I could form something with some pliers and other tools such that I could bend back one end of this wire tube and slide a battery in and let go to have the end I bent back clasp back down on the battery. Then have the atomizer connection sort of the same way such that a sort of "T" shaped end could be depress, atomizer slid over, released, and the tension would hold the atomizer on. This would allow any size atomizer I suppose but for my purpose I only use 901. It's not exactly easy to explain but I hope that reveals the goal of why I am looking for "tension wire" as I will call it for now.

After the bare wire seems to work, then I can cover it in silicone.. I have quite a bit laying around here (uncured for molds).

That is a unique approach to your mod...I suppose soldering the wires is something you dont want to do?

What about taping your feed wire to a spring wire (clock spring old measuring tape spring ...etc) just short of the end

You know what??... I think you may qualify for the MacGyver award

Let me know how you get on or if you need help soldering the - / + on the 901 let us know or solder a spade connector on the outer atty and also on the end on wire then just touch the 2 wire together

Good luck

Art

 

[jxmiller]

That is a unique approach to your mod...I suppose soldering the wires is something you dont want to do?

What about taping your feed wire to a spring wire (clock spring old measuring tape spring ...etc) just short of the end

You know what??... I think you may qualify for the MacGyver award

Let me know how you get on or if you need help soldering the - / + on the 901 let us know or solder a spade connector on the outer atty and also on the end on wire then just touch the 2 wire together

Good luck

Art

I try to avoid solder because it can fail.. get brittle.. break. I also do not like electronics in mods.. and by that I mean regulators... mosfets... LED's, so forth.

Humbled by the MacGyver comment. MacGruber may end up being more of a reality... time will tell I suppose.

 

[nicotime]

Maybe something like this stuff jx...I have a few different types I got from my previous employer that I am going to experiment with. Make it the length you need and glue it anywhere...dirt simple. Probably not what your looking for right now though.

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