wismec RX200.... cant use TC

[deezdrama]

Anyone else have the Wismec RX200 and able to use TC?
I bought the mod as my first TC device and was going to get the segelei fuchai but got this for the TI support and third battery design.

I got it friday and used it all weekend in power mode with dual claptons in my aromamizer.

Tonight.....Wanting to try Titanium I made dual 10 wrap 3mm ID coils, lightly spaced and pulsed in at 8W in power mode. They were .25ohm and working fine. Switched to Ti mode. I then let them cool down and locked in the resistance, wicked them, and put the tank together and the mod just hits temp protection everytime.
I can set it at 200f or 600f....temp protection everytime.

Spent past 3 hours building TI coils and same temp protection issue. As soon as you hit the button it goes into temp protection.
Ive made sure there were no shorts, etc
I even updated firmware on the device and no changes.

What am I missing here?
Ive read to make sure wicks are saturated so slathered them well....same temp protection.

 

[Paul M]

Have you tried it with the resistance unlocked?

 

[crxess]

Finish the story:

What wattage are you attempting to use?

In Temp mode, start Low 20-35w

If you are set to high, you are Slamming The temp limiter.

 

[Rizzyking]

When in temp mode click the fire button four times and lower your wattage a bit, I've been using mine in temp mode since I got it Friday but I use 430 stainless steel I can either up the temp a bit in ss temp mode or switch to ti mode and lower my temp 20° but yes the mod works well in temp control mode so far. I have temp mode wattage set to 25 but I prefer a cooler vape.

 

[SpaceApe]

Did you make sure the firmware was up to date?

 

[Oberon75]

Finish the story:

What wattage are you attempting to use?

In Temp mode, start Low 20-35w

If you are set to high, you are Slamming The temp limiter.

Should that matter though? The point of these 200w temp control devices is supposed to be an instant ramp up time. Thats the claim anyway. I don't know about the RX 200 but on the DNA200, pBusardo said he sets the watts at max and uses the temperature for adjustments.

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[Ryedan]

Should that matter though? The point of these 200w temp control devices is supposed to be an instant ramp up time. Thats the claim anyway. I don't know about the RX 200 but on the DNA200, pBusardo said he sets the watts at max and uses the temperature for adjustments.

The complaint was that it was activating TC on every hit, even at 600 deg. If it's set at 200 watts that wouldn't surprise me too much with the setup he has.

I agree there is nothing wrong with that if that's the way he wants to run it. OTOH, if he wants to be power limited he needs to lower the power to the point where TC doesn't kick in all the time, or build a different setup.

We really need more information from the OP.

 

[crxess]

Should that matter though? The point of these 200w temp control devices is supposed to be an instant ramp up time. Thats the claim anyway. I don't know about the RX 200 but on the DNA200, pBusardo said he sets the watts at max and uses the temperature for adjustments.

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Yes it should Matter - they are 2 significantly different chips.

Watts = Fruit
Apple is Fruit
Orange is Fruit
Apple is not Orange

DNA Board is designed to NOT throw 200 watts at a TC build, regardless of setting.
No matter what anyone may attempt to say, wicking would be instantly destroyed in most tanks.

Unfortunately, the RX chip - A much more cost effective alternative, has no limiting onboard. The Operator must make that correction. However, it is a simple matter and for the Low budget shopper a worthwhile Mod.

Why have 200w on the DNA then........simple, because it will switch to Wattage mode........Cloud chasing Bro

Seriously, 200w
I have a few high powered mods. I call it safe overhead.

 

[Oberon75]

Yes it should Matter - they are 2 significantly different chips.

Watts = Fruit
Apple is Fruit
Orange is Fruit
Apple is not Orange

DNA Board is designed to NOT throw 200 watts at a TC build, regardless of setting.
No matter what anyone may attempt to say, wicking would be instantly destroyed in most tanks.

Unfortunately, the RX chip - A much more cost effective alternative, has no limiting onboard. The Operator must make that correction. However, it is a simple matter and for the Low budget shopper a worthwhile Mod.

Why have 200w on the DNA then........simple, because it will switch to Wattage mode........Cloud chasing Bro [emoji38]

Seriously, 200w
I have a few high powered mods. I call it safe overhead.

My point was "why have 200w in temp control?". I just assumed it would throw the power at it until the temperature cutoff which should be instant. Both my SX Mini and my even cheaper IPV D2 just won't go above the 50 Joules.

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[deezdrama]

Firmware is updated. Tried a new set of Ti coils. 3.5mm ID , 5-6 wrap 26awg. .17ohm.

Set to TC in TI mode. 4 clicks to set watts low. Ive tried 20w....still temp protection, went all the way down to 1w lol.... wouldnt get up to temp. Played around with wattage....it either doesnt get hot enough to vape or it goes into temp protection instantly.

A buddy at work got his rx200 today, he tried his in TC with Ni wire.... he has same exact issue.

What a waste.... i should of went with the fuchai. I wanted this for my first TC mod and it only works in power mode.

Also....battery life isnt that good.
Using a married set of new lg he4's it barely makes it a whole day of moderate vaping at work.

 

[crxess]

My point was "why have 200w in temp control?". I just assumed it would throw the power at it until the temperature cutoff which should be instant. Both my SX Mini and my even cheaper IPV D2 just won't go above the 50 Joules.

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That I agree with. China logic Boggles.

 

[crxess]

Firmware is updated. Tried a new set of Ti coils. 3.5mm ID , 5-6 wrap 26awg. .17ohm.

Set to TC in TI mode. 4 clicks to set watts low. Ive tried 20w....still temp protection, went all the way down to 1w lol.... wouldnt get up to temp. Played around with wattage....it either doesnt get hot enough to vape or it goes into temp protection instantly.

A buddy at work got his rx200 today, he tried his in TC with Ni wire.... he has same exact issue.

What a waste.... i should of went with the fuchai. I wanted this for my first TC mod and it only works in power mode.

Also....battery life isnt that good.
Using a married set of new lg he4's it barely makes it a whole day of moderate vaping at work.

Sorry, buy you sound like you need help from someone that uses the RX200. By far, you and your friend are in the minority.

You say poor battery life - What Build and Power?

Are you Locking your Resistance in TC Mode? The unit may Fault if not locked.

2:40

 

[deezdrama]

Only thing in the vid I wasnt aware of is the 3 battery volt indicator.
Yes... I locked resistance.

This is my first TC mod but Ive been vaping for 4+ years, buddy at work has a desk full of mods and have seen him with 6 or more different TC mods so Im sure he knows what he is doing.

I dont know. I really loved the device but sucks I cant get into TC.

I do have some 24g ss that came as a sample with my titanium wire....maybe Ill try it tomorrow.

As for the build/battery life. Im running dual clapton coils, 5 wrap each on 3mm, .33 ohm at 50w. Not even heavy vaping. Maybee a few pulls an hour at work.
I pull the lg he4's of the intellicharger4 at about 5am and by late evening the mod is fully drained.

Hopefully ss TC will work...Ill give it a try tomorrow

 

[ismokeinbinary]

Only thing in the vid I wasnt aware of is the 3 battery volt indicator.
Yes... I locked resistance.

This is my first TC mod but Ive been vaping for 4+ years, buddy at work has a desk full of mods and have seen him with 6 or more different TC mods so Im sure he knows what he is doing.

I dont know. I really loved the device but sucks I cant get into TC.

I do have some 24g ss that came as a sample with my titanium wire....maybe Ill try it tomorrow.

As for the build/battery life. Im running dual clapton coils, 5 wrap each on 3mm, .33 ohm at 50w. Not even heavy vaping. Maybee a few pulls an hour at work.
I pull the lg he4's of the intellicharger4 at about 5am and by late evening the mod is fully drained.

Hopefully ss TC will work...Ill give it a try tomorrow

Someone had the same problem in the "official" rx200 thread. Ended up having to exchange the mod. Might wanna check the thread out. It's in the temperature control subforum..

 

[crxess]

Only thing in the vid I wasnt aware of is the 3 battery volt indicator.
Yes... I locked resistance.

This is my first TC mod but Ive been vaping for 4+ years, buddy at work has a desk full of mods and have seen him with 6 or more different TC mods so Im sure he knows what he is doing.

I dont know. I really loved the device but sucks I cant get into TC.

I do have some 24g ss that came as a sample with my titanium wire....maybe Ill try it tomorrow.

As for the build/battery life. Im running dual clapton coils, 5 wrap each on 3mm, .33 ohm at 50w. Not even heavy vaping. Maybee a few pulls an hour at work.
I pull the lg he4's of the intellicharger4 at about 5am and by late evening the mod is fully drained.

Hopefully ss TC will work...Ill give it a try tomorrow

Best of luck with it. Definitely strange, especially if failing after an upgrade.

* oh, Just under 4 years here............and things always get weird. I just accept it will happen and start searching for Why and How to resolve.
An answer may be near.

 

[kbeam418]

Should that matter though? The point of these 200w temp control devices is supposed to be an instant ramp up time. Thats the claim anyway. I don't know about the RX 200 but on the DNA200, pBusardo said he sets the watts at max and uses the temperature for adjustments.

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That's exactly how I use my dna 200 it works flawlessly that way, and it never actually hits 200 watts.

 

[deezdrama]

I think this issue has been figured out. I posted in the large rx200 thread and a member did some testing for me.

Quote....

I recreated your build to within a hundredth ofan ohm (.18).

Confirmed.

You don't have a defective unit. The RX200 doesn't seem to be well-optimized for dual TC coils (at that low of a resistance).

Temperature Protect, even with good airflow over the coils and snug (but not too snug) cotton, was triggered at 20 watts at 400F.

I was able to avoid the TP message at 20 watts at exactly 550F.

(20 watts was of course not enough to drive a build like this, it was just a test to see when TP would not be triggered.)

But, Temperature Protect doesn't seem to be a brick-wall limiter. Keeping it at 550F and upping the wattage to 45 watts was then producing a denser vape.

Going up to 60 watts seemed to get slightly denser, but there were diminishing returns above that (at 550F).

I was able to get a warm, more cloud-chasing vape at 600F, 75 watts, but this would not be enough for the true chaser (which is not me).

I then removed a coil, let it cool, reattached for "new coil" and the remaining single coil was delivering plenty of vapor in the below 500F range.

Conclusion: The RX200 is not optimized for dual TC coils (at these lower resistances).

Wismec should add a "dual coil" option in a firmware update, like some other mods have employed, to address the raw physics behind this issue.

Or, just deal with the lower resistances better, in general (it may not need to be a "dual coil" setting).

However, I think a flavor-chaser would still find a range that works with dual TC coils. 580F would have been fine for my taste.

In the meantime, I suspect a slightly higher resistance build (maybe dual 3.5mm 10 wrap) would work better.

Also, for what it's worth, this same build (single coil after I ripped one out) on my DNA200, same settings, was delivering an almost identical vape as the RX200. I should have tested when both coils were in, but didn't think of it.

End quote....

He then built a dual coil Ti setup with higher resist. and it worked fine so I will try a dual 10 wrap stainless build after work

 

[smacksy]

How do I lock resistance in TC mode using a stainless .5 ohm coil?

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[ckone180]

How do I lock resistance in TC mode using a stainless .5 ohm coil?

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Screw the atomizer on and press the fire and up wattage button together for about 3 seconds. The ohms sign should now be a padlock symbol.


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[smacksy]

Screw the atomizer on and press the fire and up wattage button together for about 3 seconds. The ohms sign should now be a padlock symbol.


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OK, thx!
Once its locked how do I set power (watts) without it going into temp protection?

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