I put the S6 together as described, there is play in the button, the batteries and atty is good. What is going wrong? It is my first time trying it out.
Won't fire what am I doing wrong?
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hmm I don't know it's not in my hand so I'm not certain...what batteries? atty?...I did find that I had a couple of misfires at first because I wasn't engaging the button fully and had not used the electrical conducting grease, or had to clean the atty connection first...
being that it's all mechanical...there's not exactly a whole lot that can go wrong with it..so it should be real easy to trouble shoot
being that it's all mechanical...there's not exactly a whole lot that can go wrong with it..so it should be real easy to trouble shoot
Is yours an 801 adjustable draw model? I test them all before they go out, but if you have an 801 adjustable draw model, I'd look to the atomizer, not that your atomizer is dead, but that your atomizer is not making connection. Otherwise, there's really not much else that can go wrong since it's such a simple device. Are you able to check whether voltage is getting to the atomizer connection (you'd need a volt meter to test).
I do have the adjustable 801. Maybe I will put on a thinner rubber o ring to make sure it is connecting all the way.
Do you have any Dse 801 atomizers lying around? It works great with those
What kind of atomizer are you using?
What kind of atomizer are you using?
Do you have any Dse 801 atomizers lying around? It works great with those
They are 801s from Totally Wicked. I read now that they are 801 compatable. May not be DSE 801s. I have another brand but do not know which they are but both won't fire. So it is button, screw, spring, battery and then top? The negative side of battery is down by the button right?
Sounds right, negative side toward the button, positive toward the adapter. If you have a volt meter or test light I would check the voltage at the adapter. Might try giving everything a good bath in hot water and dish soap, in case some debris got in the adapter or something. Don't wash your batteries of course. I always put the button, spring, and insulator together before dropping them into the body. That way I know everything is together right and the button lines up with the opening better.
I always put the button, spring, and insulator together before dropping them into the body. That way I know everything is together right and the button lines up with the opening better.yeah that's it ...well technically button, washers,lockwasher, screw, spring, battery and top..and yeah battery negative is down by the button..
but I admittedly don't know jack about 801 atties...so I'm absolutely no help there..
but I admittedly don't know jack about 801 atties...so I'm absolutely no help there..
Maybe I have to get the silver grease. That stuff is pricey. Both the attys fire on my Silver Bullet. Maybe cleaning it is a good idea. Thanks
Maybe I have to get the silver grease. That stuff is pricey. Both the attys fire on my Silver Bullet. Maybe cleaning it is a good idea. Thanks
the silver grease will just help improve performance...I'd clean the screw head and the brass connecter pin in the adapter...and the adapter to atty connecton threads..and possibly the adapter to body threads....if it doesn't work at all at that point..I'd say that possibly the center pin in the atty is somehow off and not making contact..and that can be finagled into working..do those atties work on another device for certain?
EDIT: by finagling the attie what I mean is on most the center pin can be gently (and I mean gently) wiggled and pulled up a little at a time...so if there is a gap between it and the center contact of the adapter it'll move to close that gap and connect..(hence why trying the smaller o-ring made perfect sense, could always try it without the o ring and see if you have a connection too...
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Sounds right, negative side toward the button, positive toward the adapter. If you have a volt meter or test light I would check the voltage at the adapter. Might try giving everything a good bath in hot water and dish soap, in case some debris got in the adapter or something. Don't wash your batteries of course.
Where, exactly, are you supposed to put the silver conducting grease on? Got my yesterday
RIMP
LOL, I don't own any silver conducting grease. Sorry, I just clean it once a week and it always works great.
Mr.Tuna,
If you're still having difficulties, buy or borrow a voltmeter and take measurements such that you can isolate where the break in current occurs.
Once you have it in hand, if you don't know how to use it, many of us can walk you through what and where to measure.
Really, anyone using PVs and batteries should have a voltmeter. Issues do come up.
You don't need anything exotic. It just needs to measure voltage of less than 10 volts and resistance (ohms). If you need one quickly the Radio Shack in the strip mall near your house has an adequate one for around 25 bucks. If you can be patient, DealExtreme sells better ones for around 12 including freight and you won't need to talk to the snotty kid at the Shack who'd really prefer to sell you a cell phone.
If you're still having difficulties, buy or borrow a voltmeter and take measurements such that you can isolate where the break in current occurs.
Once you have it in hand, if you don't know how to use it, many of us can walk you through what and where to measure.
Really, anyone using PVs and batteries should have a voltmeter. Issues do come up.
You don't need anything exotic. It just needs to measure voltage of less than 10 volts and resistance (ohms). If you need one quickly the Radio Shack in the strip mall near your house has an adequate one for around 25 bucks. If you can be patient, DealExtreme sells better ones for around 12 including freight and you won't need to talk to the snotty kid at the Shack who'd really prefer to sell you a cell phone.
RIMP.. use a toothpick and put the tiniest (teeniest, weeniest, eeeniest) little amount (the size of a pin head) on the button to battery contact and the top adpater (little brass center).
It smears like poo... "get's everywhere" Use it very sparingly....
You can also put a small amount on the inside of the thread so when you screw it together it'll enhance the gound contact..
Like the new Avatar too ......
It smears like poo... "get's everywhere" Use it very sparingly....
You can also put a small amount on the inside of the thread so when you screw it together it'll enhance the gound contact..
Like the new Avatar too ......
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Play on the button?
If you are vaping at 3.7 (one 14500 battery) are you using the longer spring? If you use the short spring (that's for 6v vaping) there will be some play in the button...
The S6 come configured with the short spring installed...
I am sure you got this covered but just figured I throw it out there just in case...
Short spring = 6v (2ea CR2)
Long spring = 3.7v (1 14500)
Kris
eSilver conducting grease is not your problem, nor will it solve the problem, the grease is just to maintain your unit.
Sounds like you are not getting any contact at all, since the Super6 is the "simplest" mod on the market, there are only a couple of things to check:
1) Your Batteries: Some batteries are shipping with a nearly invisible plastic on each individual battery, it is like a stretch fit, make sure it or part of it isn't still covering the battery terminals.
2) Make sure the switch is touching the bottom of the battery when depressing (you may need to add a few washers to the center contact post on the switch) Simply slide the switch out, remove the spring/insulator and use a flat screwdriver to remove the screw. Add washers until the throw of the button is where you desire it.
3) Though unlikely, a piece of machining debris could have come loose on the top center post. If you look at the top of your adatper, you'll see theres a 1/8 deep gap between the center post and outer cap threads. Take a bright light, and make sure there isn't a small piece of metal shaving in there shorting it out. Take a toothbrush, soap and water and get the bristles down in there.
4) Verify that the atomizer is touching the center post. You may want to remove the o-ring all together and then seat the atomizer down. You may want to also consider checking the voltage to make sure it is getting to the atomizer. With the atomizer removed. Touch one electrode of a multimeter to the center post and one electrode to the outside of the adapter and press the button.
We'll get it up and running for you!
David
Sounds like you are not getting any contact at all, since the Super6 is the "simplest" mod on the market, there are only a couple of things to check:
1) Your Batteries: Some batteries are shipping with a nearly invisible plastic on each individual battery, it is like a stretch fit, make sure it or part of it isn't still covering the battery terminals.
2) Make sure the switch is touching the bottom of the battery when depressing (you may need to add a few washers to the center contact post on the switch) Simply slide the switch out, remove the spring/insulator and use a flat screwdriver to remove the screw. Add washers until the throw of the button is where you desire it.
3) Though unlikely, a piece of machining debris could have come loose on the top center post. If you look at the top of your adatper, you'll see theres a 1/8 deep gap between the center post and outer cap threads. Take a bright light, and make sure there isn't a small piece of metal shaving in there shorting it out. Take a toothbrush, soap and water and get the bristles down in there.
4) Verify that the atomizer is touching the center post. You may want to remove the o-ring all together and then seat the atomizer down. You may want to also consider checking the voltage to make sure it is getting to the atomizer. With the atomizer removed. Touch one electrode of a multimeter to the center post and one electrode to the outside of the adapter and press the button.
We'll get it up and running for you!
David
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Heres a dis-assembled pic to aid you (theres one on your instructions too). When the s6 isn't working, you know it's something simple;-)
Thanks David for talking me through this. The only connection problem I can find is the copper post on the cap that is supposed to touch the protruding circle on the atty is recessed from the threads on the cap. I assume that when I screw on the atty it cannot touch the copper because the atty cannot touch the copper. The protruding circle at the end of the atty just hits the threads on the cap. Is it supposed to be recessed?
did i send you out a 510 model rather then a 801 by mistake?(possible, given i do mix things up at times) The only ones with a recessed brass center post are the 510's. The 801's brass center post is flush with the top of the atomizer threads. Any chance you could post up a pic of the atty and the top of the adapter with the brass center post in view?
Ok that explains it. I will see if a 510 atty fits. I will post a pic tonight is my camera can capture such a small item. It is defanitly recessed.
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