World & National Vaping Day -Sept 19th- Be a part of History! This is what YOU can do.

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I really dislike Cynthia.

Lol me too. Those folks are delusional if they think e-cig vapor is what they need to focus on. Do they have any idea how unhealthy fireworks smoke is? Vehicle exhaust? Manufacturing plants? The list goes on and on. What a bunch of herp derps
 

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Lol me too. Those folks are delusional if they think e-cig vapor is what they need to focus on. Do they have any idea how unhealthy fireworks smoke is? Vehicle exhaust? Manufacturing plants? The list goes on and on. What a bunch of herp derps

Air freshener, scented candles, Febreze (which is designed to be sprayed on fabrics and carpets...where you baby might put it's face). Most household cleaners, including air fresheners, don't have to list all of their ingredients, so fully assessing their safety can be difficult.
 

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hello

i got this off one of my many politicians today.. i sent the email template from here with obvious adjustments + my story..

here is it:

Dear Ria,

Thank you for your recent e-mail about e-cigarettes.

In common with all my Labour colleagues including my fellow North West MEP
Arlene McCarthy, to whom you have also written on this matter, I have
received many letters and e-mails from constituents over the last few weeks,
telling me how e-cigarettes have helped them to quit smoking and how
concerned they are that EU proposals to regulate these products could result
in an effective ban. The first point I would like to stress is that there
has been a lot of misinformation circulating about a possible ban on
e-cigarettes. Can I assure you from the outset that no-one wants to ban
e-cigarettes.

My colleague Linda McAvan is the MEP leading this draft legislation through
the European Parliament, and she has taken evidence from e-cigarette
companies, as well as from users, regulators and doctors. Linda sees
e-cigarettes as a promising development in smoking cessation and she has
spoken to many doctors, who specialise in tobacco related illnesses and who
have been recommending them to their patients.

For its part, the UK government has been looking at this issue for several
years and has recently concluded that e-cigarettes should be regulated in
the same way as nicotine gums and patches, in other words under light-touch
medicines legislation. In a recent vote in the European Parliament’s Health
Committee, a majority of MEPs agreed with this approach.

Linda takes the view that the ‘medicines’ label would change very little in
terms of the availability of e-cigarettes in the UK. Over-the-counter
products like paracetamol are already widely sold in supermarkets, corner
shops and garages, as well as in pharmacies. Due to the fact that nicotine
is already a well-known substance, e-cigarettes would not be required to
undertake costly clinical trials, which may have pushed up prices. Moreover,
there could even be some advantages in terms of a lower rate of VAT and the
possibility of e-cigarettes being available free to patients on
prescription.

Some constituents have raised concerns about extra-strong and flavoured
e-cigarettes being banned under the medicines route, but that would be a
decision for the UK regulator. We on the Labour side in the European
Parliament would be in favour of maintaining a wide choice for consumers, as
long as the safety and quality of the product is proven.

Health organisations including Cancer Research, the British Heart
Foundation, ASH, and doctors associations have all come out in support of
the UK government medicines’ approach, as this would ensure that
e-cigarettes are not promoted to children or non-smokers, creating a new
generation of nicotine addicts. You may be aware that there have already
been some press reports about schools having to ban e-cigarettes from their
premises. Adopting a medicines’ approach would also mean that the products
are monitored, as little is known about long-term effects.

These are still early days in the legislative process and we are still a
long way away from any changes being implemented. The final legislation will
only be agreed following a negotiation process involving MEPs and government
Ministers from all 28 EU member countries. If and when a deal is eventually
reached, Linda McAvan is working to ensure that e-cigarette companies will
have several extra years in which to adapt to the new rules, so that there
are no interruptions to the supply of these products.

I hope you will find this helpful.

Best wishes,

Brian Simpson MEP

so this is in regards to uk/EU perhaps anyway! it sounds ok, but it's whether it will be as widely available as paracetamol or not..
 

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Ria, I know that what they're talking sounds like a reasonable thing. Like you said, is it really? Have you visited the UK section of the forum? There is also UK Campaigning section. You would get better information about the proposed legislation there. Personally? I don't feel like they will get it right, what lawmakers do?

Link to the UK forum here on ECF UK Forum

We need to keep these a viable alternative all over.
 

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I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for their help, and all the input that was given. From conception of the idea a very short two weeks ago (maybe even less) to what we accomplished yesterday. Even those that questioned what we were trying to do, made us think more which resulted in a better plan of action.

To all of you that participated, whether it be in the planning and gathering stages or the actual writing of your story and sending them to the media: You ALL deserve a round of applause! Thank you!
 

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Well, that is strange... no 'horror stories' from the media yet??

I can already see the headlines:

"The war waged by vapers against the respectful and normalised society, in an attempt to turn e-cigarettes legal, has reached a new level: yesterday, vapers from all over the world attacked several news agencies by flooding their e-mail boxes with spam mail, rendering them all useless..."

Nonsense, is it?? Maybe... but much more nonsense than some stories we have already heard?? Hardly...

:lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for their help, and all the input that was given. From conception of the idea a very short two weeks ago (maybe even less) to what we accomplished yesterday. Even those that questioned what we were trying to do, made us think more which resulted in a better plan of action.

To all of you that participated, whether it be in the planning and gathering stages or the actual writing of your story and sending them to the media: You ALL deserve a round of applause! Thank you!

And a thanks to you and Tvan (along with others) for bringing this to the forefront and compiling the information in a precise, easy to access format, which in turn resulted in many people taking part in this event.

Without the planners - there can be no plan!!! Great job everyone!
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Well I was out of the room and when I came back in I caught the tail end. But the DJ Dickerman did say something about world vaping day :)

Dickerman is cool with it. Most of the WJRR DJ's are on board with us...Once TacoBob stops driving around in his Nicmobile and gets onto vaping they won't be able to shut him up. Didn't think of it til now, but I should have emailed all the DJ's about National Vaping Day on Wednesday and I'm sure they would have gotten the word out for us. :blink:
 

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And a thanks to you and Tvan (along with others) for bringing this to the forefront and compiling the information in a precise, easy to access format, which in turn resulted in many people taking part in this event.

Without the planners - there can be no plan!!! Great job everyone!
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Ditto, kudos to all that helped put this together and pull it off!

Arrrrr. Ye done well me maties!!! Arrrr.
 
Even a few hundred emails is not an "attack" or "flooding" of anyones inbox - I get about 500 emails a day as a network admin. So all the fuss about spamming is moot. Sending a couple of dozen messages in a BCC is NOTHING compared to the spammers of the world - they have machines spewing millions. Ever heard of a 'denial of services attack'? Now that is an attack! And that is NOT what we did.

The effort will be a success if just a few key players see them and take note. At least the vaping community has been heard.

I also kept hearing the whole ten days about this being an 'annual' or once a year event - doesn't have to be such. Sure, if you want to have this specific day that's great. But there can be other 'vaping days' and media awareness days, so don't think we have to wait a year to do it again. My suggestion would be to plan something every couple of months.

The general news media needs to hear from the vaping community...on a regular basis. They need to quit denigrating something so benign. When the arguments against turn into lies then you know their position is weak and unsustainable. We need to step up the offensive.
 

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You were thinking of a respectful and normalize response such as this ... http://action.lung.org/site/DocServer/need-fda-regulations-all-tobacco-09192013.pdf


Well, that is strange... no 'horror stories' from the media yet??

I can already see the headlines:

"The war waged by vapers against the respectful and normalised society, in an attempt to turn e-cigarettes legal, has reached a new level: yesterday, vapers from all over the world attacked several news agencies by flooding their e-mail boxes with spam mail, rendering them all useless..."

Nonsense, is it?? Maybe... but much more nonsense than some stories we have already heard?? Hardly...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

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I know that we didn't go into the tiny details, but anyone that sent an e-mail (and many thanks if you did! :2cool: ) and included their contact information, may be contacted by a media outfit for more details about their experience with e-cigs. We might not know until the report is publicized.

That's where it begins to have an impact.

So stay informed, and keep up to date!
CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association
 

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Congrats on yesterday everyone. :) That was my first Vape Day, and I almost missed it if it wasn't for a friend saying "happy vape day" in the forums.
We were basically getting our foot in the door for next year. We may not have made the news. ??? But I bet'cha that 9/19 was marked in calenders in news rooms everywhere. Next year, I will start sending emails 2 days before Vape Day! Hopefully the media will be ready to shine a light on Vape Day, but they may need a little reminder before the actual day creeps up on them.

Thanks Robin and friends!

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Make sure you split up the addresses I'd say 5-8 at a time, or your email will go straight to span/junk mail

That's incorrect.

Yes number of recipients CAN matter for spam, but nothing below 10000 or so is gonna get flagged by ANY ISP... Especially since spam filters generally exist on the recipient end if you were sending a gang of emails to one recipient ISP from the same sending address, then it might matter. Number of Senders is WAY more important. The same email coming from thousands of individual IPs and email addresses is an organized effort... thousands of different emails coming from the same IP or email address is spam.

Source: 20 years in the IT field, the last 2 as VP of one of the largest mass mailing (legit, not spam) operations in the world.

PS: Yes, I did consider turning one of our server installations loose on this project... Until I realized it WOULD likely be flagged ;)
 
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How would you go about locating effective email addresses that we need?
Suggestions?

That's incorrect.

Yes number of recipients CAN matter for spam, but nothing below 10000 or so is gonna get flagged by ANY ISP... Especially since spam filters generally exist on the recipient end if you were sending a gang of emails to one recipient ISP from the same sending address, then it might matter. Number of Senders is WAY more important. The same email coming from thousands of individual IPs and email addresses is an organized effort... thousands of different emails coming from the same IP or email address is spam.

Source: 20 years in the IT field, the last 2 as VP of one of the largest mass mailing (legit, not spam) operations in the world.

PS: Yes, I did consider turning one of our server installations loose on this project... Until I realized it WOULD likely be flagged ;)
 
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